Absolutely. This thesis is key in a thread such as this, where personal opinion appears to provide a person with sufficient evidence to convince another.

This thread is so similar to the American government right now....

Lol wow you are sofa king read tar ed
No one is arguing about what device people should play on, the argument is basically pc have the advantage when it comes to speed/performance. Like i already told you i suck with pc, u shouldnt be affected skill wise in a device so lets have that match and then you can tell me i won because u were on a device and i was on a pc.

I tell Person A, "Would you like to use a knife or a gun?" He picks a gun.

I tell Person B, "Would you like to use a knife or a gun?" He picks a knife.

Person A and Person B fight. Person A shoots Person B in the head before he can even get within distance to stab him.

Following the logic of a huge portion of this thread, you would claim that the fight was unfair. But can you explain how it was unfair when both were given the exact same choice?

Person B chose the knife. Does this elementary analogy do it for you? Can you now see why I think some of you are just flat out whiners and idiots for choosing to use the iDevice when you claim that the PC is obviously better?

lol

You never cease to amaze me, GOAT. I am truly stunned and in awe, so much that I can't even bring myself to quote your last post. You are absolutely dominating me with pure, eyes-closed stupidity right now. You're facetanking every logical thing I say and countering it with, "HAHAHAHA, I'M WAYYY TOO STUPID TO EVEN WANT TO CONSIDER THAT." You are an insanely skilled individual in this regard.

I am begging you to be smarter and digest my posts. I am desperately pleading for you to grasp these concepts, but I am slowly giving up. A few more autistic outbursts from you, and you will have won. I will have to admit defeat.

For one, the apple is green, perhaps even yellow.
Unfair IS an opinion word. Want me to prove it? check the spoiler, if you don't care then skip it



Now for what I personally believe, is there not rooms where iDevice and PC players can spar each other? IMO there should be at least one of each, iOS vs PC, PC vs PC, iOS vs iOS. That way people can choose what they want based on what they personally believe to be fair or unfair :)

invalid really, some people are forced to play on one or the other because their iPod broke or their computer is fried. This does not apply to everyone, so really this point makes no sense.

That is a terrible example, actually. Just because it is popular to use words incorrectly in casual conversation does not mean that it gives new definition to the word.

Fair and unfair have nothing to do with bias, personal experience, or opinion. Sorry to put it bluntly, but you are just incorrect. Just because someone says or agrees that something is fair or unfair does not mean that it is or isn't, nor does it mean they are using the word correctly.

It would be completely unfair for the older brother to stay up later than the younger brother. Why? Because only one side was given that choice. Thus, it's very clearly unfair. Don't you get that? Just because the older brother has the "opinion" that it is fair doesn't mean that it changes the reality of the situation. It is very clearly unfair, and the equation proves it. Fairness can be proven in any situation. In conversation, you can use the words "fair" and "unfair" to try and personalize a situation, but you're taking away from the true meaning of the word. You are making a huge mistake in allowing one's dialect to alter the true definition of a word.

If they are forced to do something by anyone or anything other than the game, the game and its rules are still fair. You need to accept this concept. Life is unfair, bro. It's not my fault or Graal's fault that you don't have a PC or that you broke your iPod, and it doesn't affect the fairness that the game offers to every player in any way.

Your argument is then reduced to, "It is unfair that you have a PC and I do not." I agree, it is unfair. Why is it unfair though? It's unfair because of choices or mistakes that you've made. Not me, and not the game.

Lol ur ******ed
Ur to stupid to even the understand the argument. The argument has never about not wanting to use a pc. People play on whatever they want and the fact still stands pc s are stronger than idevices.
I tell Person A, "Would you like to use a knife or a gun?" He picks a gun.

I tell Person B, "Would you like to use a knife or a gun?" He picks a knife.
Person B had two
snipers in place mr speed and mr speedboost
Person A and Person B fight. Mr xspeed shoots Person A in the head before he can even get within distance to shoot him.

Following the logic of a huge portion of this thread, you would claim that the fight was unfair. But can you explain how it was unfair when both were given the exact same choice?
ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT YOU SUCK AT USING EXAMPLES

Again the dictionary
fair1 [fair] Show IPA adjective, fair·er, fair·est, adverb, fair·er, fair·est, noun, verb
adjective
1.
free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice: a fair decision; a fair judge.

so it is safe to assume the word unfair, being the opposite, contains bias. Really, if you wanted to you could twist anything to seem fair or unfair.

if fair and unfair is so cut and dry, then why is everyone divided on it?
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&s...w=1527&bih=871

?!?! It's like you're proving MY point. YOU are misunderstanding the things that you are citing.

The dictionary agrees with me that the word "fair" represents something that cannot be affected by bias.

So yes, unfair would clearly mean that something may include bias. My claim that it has "nothing to do with bias" means that your bias cannot effect the state of how unfair something is.
As in, you cannot say, "Nah, I don't think that's unfair," when you give one person 3 grapes and another person only 2 grapes. Basically, you're being biased about bias, and when bias is even included in the equation then clearly it's unfair. Are you following me?

I don't need to click your link because again, you're taking the discussion of others and trying to substitute dialect for vocabulary. People will always casually misuse the words "fair" and "unfair" for the lack of a better word.

ok well then the only fair thing is what I said about different rooms. Free from bias, all options are available and people can choose. Idk why you're still going when what I said basically assimilates what you were trying to say lol.

Sounds to me like you're agreeing with everything I've said after making a post where you question my intelligence. Either we're both idiots or you just spoke too soon, I guess.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter because several people in this thread have made up their mind that they will be relentless in refusing to cooperate with certain parts of this argument, no matter how logical the viewpoint is. I'm completely willing to read and try to understand anyone else's take on the situation, I just haven't seen a single argument thus far that I can't counter by quoting something I've posted earlier in the week.

You guys can keep offering your "opinions" as long as you can manage to control yourself when I reply with facts to contradict or challenge them.

This 'discussion' is dragging on a bit.

> People say that PC has an advantage over iDevices
> Thallen says that if PC has an advantage over iDevices, use PC so you're not disadvantaged
> People respond and say that's not the topic
> ???
> Repeat over and over

Like really, is anyone actually reading what is being said in this thread? You're all arguing over something which everyone (bar the few that tried to argue technicalities, but that hasn't been discussed in the last few pages) has agreed upon.

I still stand by these based on the past 2 pages before I commented. I also disagree with you saying fair and unfair are set in specifications. Sorta like saying good and bad are also set in stone. I honestly have no interest in this topic at all really, sparring on era is more fun imo than classic. Just got tired of seeing stupid bickering and pointless crap that didn't progress the thread discussion at all.

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Well, I challenge you to give me any scenario and I'll tell you if a situation in that scenario is fair or unfair, and I'll explain to you exactly why. It won't be an opinion, either. It's that simple really.

You can't use the word "fair" like the word "fat." What is fat? Is 200 pounds fat? Is 300 pounds fat? Is there an official scale we should use that outlines the limits on the word fat? Fat to you could only be chubby to me. Fat is an opinion word when you see it by definition.

Fairness isn't like that.
I didn't want the thread to turn into an analysis of the English language, but whatever. I'm done for right now guys, thanks for reading.