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Lowes_Manager 11-02-2015 04:07 AM

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Posted by 19112526518 (Post 628446)
What if Hilary and Trump ****ed? That'd be kinda neato.

The true irony will be if Hillary gets it on with her secretary. Maybe that's the reason she's stayed with Bill all along, to eventually initiate the biggest payback the world has ever seen.

Skill 11-02-2015 04:57 AM

I'm not a huge fan of trump, but I honestly think he's better than all the other candidates that actually stand a chance. I originally supported Rand Paul, but it's pretty clear he doesn't stand a chance of winning the primary, so I've given up on that.

Ben Carson is too conservative for me. I think he's too sheltered in his views and is unlikely to accept new ideas. This is a problem, because it seems like his decisions are influenced more by his values than an open mind.

Bernie Sanders has a poor understanding of economics and is trying to take on a role he can't handle. While I do think he has mostly good intents, I don't think his decision making will lead America to improve. I think he's very similar to Obama- amazing at getting the public excited and making good promises that sound good on paper, but ultimately has no idea how to make those promises actually work. For example, Obamacare was a complete failure and made health care LESS affordable. Many of his proposals would backfire and damage the economy in the long term. For example, raising the federal minimum wage to $15, and increasing benefits, will cause a push for automation and cutting jobs, leading to mass unemployment.

With Hillary Clinton, there's a few things I like, but far too many things that bother me. I like her support of small businesses and the middle class, and trying to bring back profit sharing in corporations(profit sharing basically makes it so everyone in the company receives a share of profits and not just the top level executives). However, a lot of her stances on other issues bother me severely, I won't go into detail because I don't want drama. And then of course, there's the whole email thing-can you really trust her?\

I honestly hate all of the candidates for the most part. The only reason I support Trump is because I know that he has experience running a business, and isn't being funded by lobbyists, so I know he has the best chance at fixing the economy unlike the other candidates that mainly just try to push ideals. Trump is upfront with his beliefs, doesn't sugar coat anything, doesn't take contributions, and seems to have the most powerful background in economics. For this reason I currently support him. I may disagree with some of his personal views, but the same is true of other candidates, so at least he's our best hope of fixing our horrible economy.

Pretty much every candidate promises to fix corporate tax loopholes, but it never happens. I'd think Trump probably would be the best at achieving this, because he's owned a business for years and is familiar with how businesses operate.

Platinum 11-02-2015 07:00 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 628532)
I honestly hate all of the candidates for the most part. The only reason I support Trump is because I know that he has experience running a business, and isn't being funded by lobbyists, so I know he has the best chance at fixing the economy unlike the other candidates that mainly just try to push ideals. Trump is upfront with his beliefs, doesn't sugar coat anything, doesn't take contributions, and seems to have the most powerful background in economics. For this reason I currently support him. I may disagree with some of his personal views, but the same is true of other candidates, so at least he's our best hope of fixing our horrible economy.

Pretty much every candidate promises to fix corporate tax loopholes, but it never happens. I'd think Trump probably would be the best at achieving this, because he's owned a business for years and is familiar with how businesses operate.

A country isn't a business. He may know how to work the economy, but I doubt he'd know how (or want) to fix the economy.
I suppose that's true, that he'd know corporate tax loopholes. But why would you want someone who is primarily concerned with improving his on wealth in charge of America?
disclaimer: am Australian, I may not be up to date.

Skyzer 11-02-2015 07:53 AM

I knew I shoulda pushed harder to get the sexy topic going.

GOAT 11-02-2015 06:37 PM

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Posted by Lowes_Manager (Post 627768)
More money in a person's pocket= More fuel for the economy= more inflation if you do it the wrong way. Economics 101.

FtFy



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Posted by GlazeyB (Post 627781)
His desire to slap tariffs on foreign imports, which is how he's planning on funding this plan, will increase the costs of domestic goods. He's going to start a trade war and it's going to hurt. His math doesn't work.

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Posted by Lowes_Manager (Post 628258)
Tariffs- No substance once again. Clearly told you that, like a GST, tariffs would not be as detrimental as you say. You must also think our sales tax is bad. By the sounds of your ignorance, I'm sure you support Bernie Sanders, he probably wants tariffs raised too.

Let me give an example to see if it can help you understand what gayzyB is trying to say.

Sugar around the world is 10x cheaper than American sugar. The US has a tariff on imported sugar that is high enough(thanks to rich sugar companies that bought politicians) to make American sugar cheaper than foreign sugar. THUS we the Americans are screwed because we get to pay 10x more for sugar than the rest of the world. So imagine if a lot of products had the same thing? Would you say we would end up paying more?





BTW #Clinton2016

Lowes_Manager 11-02-2015 10:37 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 628689)
FtFy






Let me give an example to see if it can help you understand what gayzyB is trying to say.

Sugar around the world is 10x cheaper than American sugar. The US has a tariff on imported sugar that is high enough(thanks to rich sugar companies that bought politicians) to make American sugar cheaper than foreign sugar. THUS we the Americans are screwed because we get to pay 10x more for sugar than the rest of the world. So imagine if a lot of products had the same thing? Would you say we would end up paying more?





BTW #Clinton2016

Yep, a Clinton hypocrite. Very funny.

Love how you talk about 'bought politicians' and then proclaim your support for the biggest sellout in the world.

You could say the same thing about a sales tax, should we get rid of that too?? It makes prices higher. Tariffs are really an economic leftist ideal so I don't know why you support a democratic candidate and then attack trade protectionist policies. Maybe you don't even know what the party you support stands for?

I am not a big supporter of Tarrifs, I'll be honest I'd much rather a VET/GST with lower income taxes. However, you cannot possibly count Trump out with ignorance about Tarrifs. Trying to say he will start a 'trade war' is laughable.

Yes, it may cause inflation. What would you rather, unemployment or inflation? Personally, I'd go with inflation.

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Posted by Platinum (Post 628546)
A country isn't a business. He may know how to work the economy, but I doubt he'd know how (or want) to fix the economy.
I suppose that's true, that he'd know corporate tax loopholes. But why would you want someone who is primarily concerned with improving his on wealth in charge of America?
disclaimer: am Australian, I may not be up to date.

But he does want to fix the economy, I provided a link. He wants to fix one of the worst things in America: Corporate tax inversion.


I just want to say, currently the GOP controls congress. The Democratic candidates are promising the moon, when really they cannot actually come through with it if the current shape of congress stays how it is (personally, I don't think the Dems have even the slightest chance of capturing the House).

SouthernZombie* 11-02-2015 11:59 PM

What about Carly? Give me some information.

twilit 11-03-2015 01:21 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 628689)
Let me give an example to see if it can help you understand what gayzyB is trying to say.

Sugar around the world is 10x cheaper than American sugar. The US has a tariff on imported sugar that is high enough(thanks to rich sugar companies that bought politicians) to make American sugar cheaper than foreign sugar. THUS we the Americans are screwed because we get to pay 10x more for sugar than the rest of the world. So imagine if a lot of products had the same thing? Would you say we would end up paying more?

I can understand the tariff on sugar. The US has programs in place that protect farmers. Agriculture is a basic foundation for most nations' economies. It's really not wise to import food that you are able to produce enough of domestically.

But yes, Glazy did have a point. You cant just go in and slap tariffs on every import against nations we have good trade relations with.

GOAT 11-03-2015 08:53 PM

@Lowes
Calm down cowboy, this is not an argument I was pointing out something you were having a hard time understanding.

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Posted by Lowes_Manager (Post 628811)
Yep, a Clinton hypocrite. Very funny.

You can find comments about any politician that makes them sound like hypocrites.

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Posted by Lowes_Manager (Post 628811)
Love how you talk about 'bought politicians' and then proclaim your support for the biggest sellout in the world.

We are in a lose lose situation brotha. Every politician is for sale. My elected officials are not there to serve my needs, they're there to serve the need of their campaign contributors. Regardless of who I vote for.

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Posted by Lowes_Manager (Post 628811)
You could say the same thing about a sales tax, should we get rid of that too?? It makes prices higher. Tariffs are really an economic leftist ideal so I don't know why you support a democratic candidate and then attack trade protectionist policies. Maybe you don't even know what the party you support stands for?

I'm not attacking anything I was just giving you an example with the intention of clarifying the issue for you.

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Posted by Lowes_Manager (Post 628811)
You could say the same thing about a sales tax, should we get rid of that too?? It makes prices higher.

What is the purpose of taxes?

Tariffs can create revenue for the government like taxes, but when they apply it to imports it is to give american companies an advantage in the economy. If the imports have a tariff and consumers buy domestic products does the government get significant revenue?

You're comparing apples to oranges.

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Posted by Lowes_Manager (Post 628811)
However, you cannot possibly count Trump out with ignorance about Tarrifs. Trying to say he will start a 'trade war' is laughable.

I could care less about trump. You really think he has a realistic chance of winning? The only people that support him are the individuals that fit other countries stereotypes of Americans.

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Posted by Lowes_Manager (Post 628811)
Yes, it may cause inflation. What would you rather, unemployment or inflation? Personally, I'd go with inflation.

Do you know that every economist will tell you that unemployment is good for the economy(below a certain %)? I don't think you will find one that says inflation is good for the economy.

But to answer your question. I guess it depends on the situation. Very low inflation against high unemployment is not the same as high inflation against low unemployment. Your question is to simplistic to give an educated answer.


Here's some better questions:
1. Does inflation lead to unemployment?
2. Does unemployment lead to inflation?

Skyzer 11-04-2015 03:07 AM

Holy molly. Are you people even old enough to vote?


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