when i was in pulse they had subguilds. i was in pulse from 300-700. 3 subguilds, they just didt kik snd recruit, you had to earn your way into main

lol. dude pulse had 5 sub guilds,they abused ally system (so is every 1k tower guild)

Wait, your thread is about "Guild Loyalty" - If a guild has 5 subs filled with 100% loyal members, is it a problem?

not really. but 5 subs of people who go off tag, and if they still recruit temps then yes. the point is that guilds should recruit loyal members, and that members should only be loyal to one guild.

Temps are a way to get loyal members. :rolleyes:

When I was in OG Cruxis, we got most of our good members via temps.

temps are usually just a way to get as many people at your tower at once. people who arent your loyal guild members shouldnt be helping at your tower. instead recruit people on a trial basis. have them recruited, and for the next week theyre watched closely by the leaders to see if their active, if they're respectful, etc. at the end they decide if the member can stay or not. of course the member shouldnt know he's on trial or that would ruin the whole point of it. next time someone comes by asking to help, you should tell them that they can help off tag if they want to but you dont recruit temps. then see if they help anyway, and then ask them if they want to join the actual guild as a member, but they have to be active and help, and put them through the trial period.

Or you could not tell other people how to run their guilds? :dazed:

Lol, I still barely understand why this thread exists.

lol how is that ruining a guild? it makes sure your members are in it for the long haul. that they actually want to be in your guild. the fact that your guild absolutly NEEDS temps in order to succeed really says something about the guild doesn't it. even after having 4-5 sub guilds mostly full of members. zanza got to where it is without recruiting temps. why cant you?

First off i said run not ruin. Second, Zanza is a guild that was basically endorsed by Graal back in the day, you can't expect a common player to start a new guild and have tons of people lining up to join. I'm also not taking this personally considering I'm not the leader of the guild i'm in, I'm speaking for people trying to start their own. For an average guild trying to get loyal members, recruiting temps is a perfect technique. Stop trying to tell people how to run their guilds. :P

look up your history on graal PC guilds how they are/were organized, they laugh at the sight of temps subs guilds and 1k hour fort guilds.

I'm not trying to tell people how to run their guild I'm simply suggesting different routes than temps. A guild should be loyal members not a bunch of temps. Of your just starting out you should probably be recruiting friends who will recruit their friends, and so on. Recruiting random people to a guild isn't going to make you the next big thing. I'm more talking about the guilds who already have members and such. And even then if your starting out you should be recruiting for loyal members. So when someone comes in and asks to join you recruit them, tell them to stay loyal, and put them on trial. People starting their own guild should really be recruiting friends and looking for perms. Temps are people who you recruit to help them kick when they offline. You shouldn't do that. You should keep them in and see if they stay loyal.

Zanza is an admin guild. People want to join it. So they have more members and still take longer to reach 1k than many other guilds.

How does Zanza not abuse the ally system, and yet every other guild does?

re read what i posted first, those are the legit guilds.(Knoble US Ventrue charm)

Is Zanza a "legit" guild?