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CM 06-26-2016 08:40 AM

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Posted by Mount (Post 717835)
Nothing can stop abusing a power besides taking the power away.

Thank you stating the obvious. If a staff is caught abusing they will be warned/fired/possibly banned, and trust me when I say that they have the resources to monitor such behavior.

Crono 06-26-2016 09:03 AM

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Posted by Mount (Post 717835)
If a player abuses the system a staff can ban from reports for whatever time.. If chat isn't logged then my idea minus overworld chatlog

Nothing can stop abusing a power besides taking the power away.

and if a player suspects someone is doing something wrong but it turns out false? this would scare people from reporting because they're afraid of being punished.

having to moderate reports on top of all the idiots the GPs have to deal with is demanding.

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Posted by James205 (Post 717836)
actually pay people lol.

thats always been the dream innit bruv

Mount 06-26-2016 09:34 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 717840)
and if a player suspects someone is doing something wrong but it turns out false? this would scare people from reporting because they're afraid of being punished.

having to moderate reports on top of all the idiots the GPs have to deal with is de

thats always been the dream innit bruv

3 consecutive reports violating and abusing the system can lead to a temporary ban.

If a player does it falsely 3 times consecutively obviously there's something they're not getting and should be given a course or small test they should go through to get them to understand etiquette of reporting

If a baby keeps touching a hot stove and they're not learning it's obvious there needs to be some intervention to prevent it lol

@notbeingabletomultitask
There should be ambassadors that are members of the community that get pinged for things like harassment etc and can moderate it there and if they see violation they can ping a staff who can moderate for a few seconds to see the issues.

Ambassadors would have no other power besides being able to ping a staff if they are catching in-action proof of something a staff member can easily warp to and handle from there.

just like habbo does, there are ambassadors that can mute a player for an hour for hate speech etc,

This would be too complicated of a system and it would fk up people and make them go power crazy or hunger for the chance to be an ambassador,so I'll mark if as unlikely.But maybe incoming GPS could go through an ambassador trial stage like this so there can be organization pertaining to who handles which specific requests
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Posted by CM (Post 717837)
Thank you stating the obvious. If a staff is caught abusing they will be warned/fired/possibly banned, and trust me when I say that they have the resources to monitor such behavior.

Lol I meant the report system is what is getting abused? Lol obviously it's not obvious then..

Thallen 06-26-2016 09:36 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 717625)
I actually have mentioned numerous times to other people that I think you would actually be a good GP because you take **** from nobody, but then again who am I to say that? I was just a racist GP that banned people when they said I was bad at PKing, apparently.

Nice man, you just inspired me to apply for GP for the 12th time. Let's hope there's a statute of limitations so that I can't ban you for your racism a year later when I don't get hired.

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Posted by CM (Post 717837)
If a staff is caught abusing they will be warned/fired/possibly banned, and trust me when I say that they have the resources to monitor such behavior.

Yeah, "if" is a big keyword there. Who knows how long Soren would have gotten away with abusing his powers if I hadn't spent 2 weeks crying about it in my status and on the forums.

How does one get caught for improperly banning players under the premise that they were "lagging too much" though? Not every GP is as stupid and careless as Soren was. I think it'd be easy to get away with, especially if the banned player isn't fluent in English.

Yog 06-26-2016 09:52 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717844)
Nice man, you just inspired me to apply for GP for the 12th time.

Mr. "I'm not interesting in being a GP."

Skyzer 06-26-2016 09:53 AM

You do not allow GPs to permanently ban people and limit the amount of time for bans. Easy.

Yog 06-26-2016 09:54 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 717846)
You do not allow GPs to permanently ban people and limit the amount of time for bans. Easy.

How it's already done. GPs don't choose the time for bans. Only high ups can permanently ban.

Skyzer 06-26-2016 09:55 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 717847)
How it's already done. GPs don't choose the time for bans. Only high ups can permanently ban.

Huh. Hire better people.

Yog 06-26-2016 09:57 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 717848)
Huh. Hire better people.

pls dont get me started on how air-headed some of the gps are...

Skyzer 06-26-2016 09:59 AM

I'm sure Thallen would be a fine GP, but can understand not wanting that responsibility. Babysitting hundreds of children sounds awful.

I guess better monitoring and logging of staff activity would be needed if it can go as undetected as Thallen makes it appear. What a hassle.

Thallen 06-26-2016 10:38 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 717845)
Mr. "I'm not interesting in being a GP."

I'm really not, but if it means that there will be at least one person actively enforcing the rules at towers and in the arena then I'd do it. That was supposed to be Fulgore's job, but he lost access to his laptop.

Even if I submitted a Pulitzer Prize-winning application, I wouldn't be hired due to my account's history being a mess. One of the current GPs actually sent me a video of my account history (which is illegal). It's filled with "Scam Alert" (from having bit.ly URLs in my status) and "Boost Alert" (great joke) triggers. There is also a mark that claims my kills/deaths were reset (never happened). There are about 20 "Unban" marks yet only about 10 "Ban" marks. I don't know why any of this exists.

I've been banned two times, both which were immediately overturned. I've had my status reset a few times. I've been warped away from towers about 100 times for trivial reasons. 80 of those were probably from Soren. So yes, the best I can do is plead that people do the job correctly.

Saber Alumba 06-26-2016 12:39 PM

Can we please /closeThread , this has completely gone off topic and is just people trying to take shots at each other. Either way when a person normally get banned they are told to go to toonslab , so let's not give anyone special treatment? If the band truly not at fault then I'm sure who ever manages ban appeals will resolve the issue as it should be.

Striken 06-26-2016 02:46 PM

In game chat isn't logged iirc, pms however are..

On a side note, what can warrant an admin to check someone's pm history? If they report someone else will they have reason to check the person who placed the report?

Zetectic 06-26-2016 03:01 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 717876)
Can we please /closeThread , this has completely gone off topic and is just people trying to take shots at each other. Either way when a person normally get banned they are told to go to toonslab , so let's not give anyone special treatment? If the band truly not at fault then I'm sure who ever manages ban appeals will resolve the issue as it should be.

mods aren't giving them any treatment. they're just busy irl.
and the thread should stay up till they reach the new milestone.
u can stop causing dramas though.

Aguzo 06-26-2016 04:11 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 717902)
On a side note, what can warrant an admin to check someone's pm history?

Probable cause.


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