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James205 12-09-2015 03:10 AM
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Posted by Aguzo (Post 642878)
Yeah, then all the matches can take even longer.

This is how it would work out.
Once the delayer gains the advantage, they will stay back, and wait for you to rush them, so they can gain even more advantage.

Whenever I fight a delayer, it's either get the first hit, or pray that they aren't forcing lag too.

Imagine streak room with more hp. No thank you.
I agree I don't like your opinion on this. People have been sparring for years with more hearts and Clops and Thallen are right.

6 hits prevents a lot of strat and adjustments, and with more hearts vs a delayer it gives you more time to adjust within the spar match.

I dont know how long youve been playing but more hearts isn't a bad thing. A lot of people would actually get better and a lot of people would get worse which creates more separation between who is better and who is not.

qes 12-09-2015 03:12 AM
theres delayers on pc graal and they still have more hearts

Aguzo 12-09-2015 03:14 AM
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Posted by qes (Post 642880)
with more hearts you can spar more ballsy and offense knowing if something goes wrong you got more to fall back on and clutch
Doesn't that already happen? Sure, I'd like to get used to someone's delay, because 6 hits isn't enough most of the time, but all I can see is people getting the advantage and just staying back, waiting for the timer to run out. You then rush the opponent, and trade hits, keep the timer rolling... 13 hearts?...

Zideruic 12-09-2015 03:16 AM
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Posted by OG (Post 642877)
I sparred on the pc client a while back and I found it a little harder but spars don't really take forever to complete even tho its 13 hearts.
Technically it's only 3 extra hits since the sword is level 3

Aguzo 12-09-2015 03:17 AM
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Posted by Zideruic (Post 642887)
Technically it's only 3 extra hits since the sword is level 3
I totally forgot about that. We don't have a level 3 sword tho.

James205 12-09-2015 03:17 AM
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Posted by Aguzo (Post 642885)
Doesn't that already happen? Sure, I'd like to get used to someone's delay, because 6 hits isn't enough most of the time, but all I can see is people getting the advantage and just staying back, waiting for the timer to run out. You then rush the opponent, and trade hits, keep the timer rolling... 13 hearts?...
With more hearts it gives the opponent to be more aggressive early in game, there is a lot of strat to dealing with a delayer with more hearts. The only con you are mentioning is average spar would take longer but more hearts changes the dynamic early. It creates a clear indicator who is better.

A lot of delayer strat wouldn't work as well.

Zideruic 12-09-2015 03:20 AM
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Posted by Aguzo (Post 642888)
I totally forgot about that. We don't have a level 3 sword tho.
7-9 hearts with level 2 sword would be pretty cool.

Yami 12-09-2015 03:22 AM
the amount of QQ on this thread.

ques keep your mouth shut and i might buy you a gift this year

Aguzo 12-09-2015 03:28 AM
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Posted by Zideruic (Post 642890)
7-9 hearts with level 2 sword would be pretty cool.
How much damage would level 2 sword do? 1.5-2hp?

James205 12-09-2015 03:29 AM
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Posted by Aguzo (Post 642899)
How much damage would level 2 sword do? 1.5-2hp?
1hp

Yami 12-09-2015 03:29 AM
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Posted by Aguzo (Post 642899)
How much damage would level 2 sword do? 1.5-2hp?
level 2 sword = 1heart

level 3 sword = 1.5hearts

Aguzo 12-09-2015 03:43 AM
If they add sword quests, then sure 13 hearts would be fine, shouldn't it be 12 though? If it's 1.5hp... it should be 12 hearts...

If they don't add sword quests, then idk.

How would this affect pking/towering? Unless they can make you suddenly have more hp for spars only.

James205 12-09-2015 03:44 AM
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Posted by Aguzo (Post 642910)
Unless they can make you suddenly have more hp for spars only.
a lot of servers used to do this and UN still does.

Aguzo 12-09-2015 03:48 AM
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Posted by James205 (Post 642912)
a lot of servers used to do this and UN still does.
And level 3 sword disappears? 3 hp, 2 hits, dead.

James205 12-09-2015 03:49 AM
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Posted by Aguzo (Post 642914)
And level 3 sword disappears? 3 hp, 2 hits, dead.
When you enter a spar everyone has equal stats/sword. If you spar there sometime youll see


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