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GOAT 11-09-2016 03:28 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 741189)
Holy **** is GOAT.

I'm glad I could finally see him again before we all ****ing die.

I don't know whats more deserving of a Michael Jordan crying face, Trump conquering Murica or 5hift passing my 5 lime bar GOD status.



Don't panic just yet I doubt munch changes. Maybe in his 2nd term :D

Colin 11-09-2016 03:31 PM

Vladimir Putin says Russia is ready to fully restore relations with the United States

PigParty 11-09-2016 03:35 PM

I love Anna Kendrick.

https://twitter.com/annakendrick47/s...47522292633600

TWIZ 11-09-2016 03:51 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 741421)
Our Canadian PM we had for years didn't believe climate change but still supported regulations, most likely Trump will too.

He was probably just making a weird joke when he accused China of inventing global warming

Did you see his comment on global warming during the first presidential debate?

Colin 11-09-2016 03:52 PM

Hillary Clinton failed to win over black, Hispanic and female voters, which is where she lost.

I'm really laughing about the whole black thing, when that Spirit Cooking stuff came out the black communities reaction was priceless, spooked them so much they jumped ship in a heart beat, easily some of the funniest tweets and posts I've ever read

and yeah I know what he said, our PM was the exact same, just wait before you think he's going to ruin it all

PigParty 11-09-2016 04:33 PM

People give the President too much credit. Trump is limited by his power a lot. It would require Congress to do anything regarding environmental regulations. Trump could try to sway public opinion, but other than that, it's up to Congress.

iChronic 11-09-2016 04:37 PM

http://i2.wp.com/www.ijozi.co.za/wp-...size=720%2C340

called it

twilit 11-09-2016 04:38 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 741438)
People give the President too much credit. Trump is limited by his power a lot. It would require Congress to do anything regarding environmental regulations. Trump could try to sway public opinion, but other than that, it's up to Congress.

Which is also now Republican controlled, just sayin.

Eugeen 11-09-2016 05:25 PM

Just went on facebook...
The amount of bias of Hillary supporters on there from the whole world is incredible.

They call Trump bad yet they haven't even looked into all the crap Hillary has done and the proof that she has done it.
They watch some crap in Hillary Campaign influenced tv channels and other media outlets think their voice and opinion matters lmao.

I'm not even joking though, the stupidity of humans on facebook is too much to handle.

5hift 11-09-2016 05:49 PM

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Posted by twilit (Post 741441)
Which is also now Republican controlled, just sayin.

Congress isn't too friendly towards Trump either so don't be surprised if absolutely nothing gets done for another 4 years.

Bram- 11-09-2016 05:53 PM

Everyone in here is repeating the same stuff someone else said

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David 11-09-2016 06:50 PM

Here's a strange idea: In an election cycle dominated by populism, nominating a career politician with record low trustworthy numbers might have been a bad? decision? Maybe?

GG Trump wins. Happy to be surprised at this outcome

Coco 11-09-2016 07:06 PM

Just wondering...why is it that one candidate wins the popular vote but doesn't actually win the election because of the "electoral college"? Why is that a thing? Why is it that the actual citizen's votes mean next to nothing and the votes of some guys that "represent" a state is what actually matters? It's doesn't make sense to me.

Bryan* 11-09-2016 07:08 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 741460)
Just wondering...why is it that one candidate wins the popular vote but doesn't actually win the election because of the "electoral college"? Why is that a thing? Why is it that the actual citizen's votes mean next to nothing and the votes of some guys that "represent" a state is what actually matters? It's doesn't make sense to me.

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Ele...s_Popular_Vote

Colin 11-09-2016 07:11 PM

http://i.imgur.com/rTwFCLz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EzaiVeK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iY4pD0e.jpg

David 11-09-2016 07:13 PM

because if the electoral college didn't exist every election would be decided by a few heavily populated states like New York, Texas, Florida, Michigan, California. Elections would not be reflective of the entire countries interests, just the really big states.

Coco 11-09-2016 07:13 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 741461)

Yeah I know what the difference is, I'm saying I don't get why that's a thing. Why is it that the votes people of the country don't matter and instead what actually matters are a couple people from each state. It makes so sense and quite frankly seems incredibly stupid to me that it even exists lol.

PigParty 11-09-2016 07:15 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 741460)
Just wondering...why is it that one candidate wins the popular vote but doesn't actually win the election because of the "electoral college"? Why is that a thing? Why is it that the actual citizen's votes mean next to nothing and the votes of some guys that "represent" a state is what actually matters? It's doesn't make sense to me.

It was created when they made the Constitution. The creators wanted educated people to have the ultimate vote, especially because back then, there was a much wider gap and many people weren't educated.

Most states are also winner-take-all. That means you can win 51% of the state, but it acts as if 100% of the state's population voted for you. To add even more bull **** on to the electoral college, no one is required to vote the way their state votes. It's occured 3 times in America's history that a candidate has won the popular vote, but lost the electoral vote. It's bull **** but no one's willing to change it. If you're a republican and live in california, your vote literally gets counted for the democratic candidate. Same goes for democrats in a state like Texas.m

Bryan* 11-09-2016 07:15 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 741464)
Yeah I know what the difference is, I'm saying I don't get why that's a thing. Why is it that the votes people of the country don't matter and instead what actually matters are a couple people from each state. It makes so sense and quite frankly seems incredibly stupid to me that it even exists lol.

They say it's to avoid voter fraud. Maybe these will help:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.teleg...?client=safari

https://www.google.com/amp/dailysign...?client=safari

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the...toral-college/

PigParty 11-09-2016 07:19 PM

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Posted by David (Post 741463)
because if the electoral college didn't exist every election would be decided by a few heavily populated states like New York, Texas, Florida, Michigan, California. Elections would not be reflective of the entire countries interests, just the really big states.

That's not true at all. In fact, elections currently aren't reflective of the entire country because states like Rhode Island and many ither small states are guarunteed 3 votes, even though their population % should only give them 1 electoral vote. That means bigger states have to give up some of their electoral votes. Ohio, California, New York, and Florida actually have fewer electoral votes than they should based on population. The biggest 10 cities in America only make up about 9% of the population in the country. You can't win an election by getting that. However, you can win a state by winning the big cities. And that is how the electoral college rigs elections.

David 11-09-2016 07:25 PM

That's my entire point, though. It levels the playing field so that small states aren't completely shut out of the process of the election. Giving small states a little more sway while not letting huge states completely dominate the polls by numbers alone = more reflective of the entire countries interest.

PigParty 11-09-2016 07:28 PM

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Posted by David (Post 741468)
That's my entire point, though. It levels the playing field so that small states aren't completely shut out of the process of the election. Giving small states a little more sway while not letting huge states completely dominate the polls by numbers alone = more reflective of the entire countries interest.

Why is it by states, though? Get rid of the electoral college and states don't matter at all. People matter. You say the electoral college is good because it gives states more equal representation, but without the electoral college, there isn't any state representation. That's like trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. It just makes things worse.

Coco 11-09-2016 07:31 PM

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Posted by David (Post 741468)
That's my entire point, though. It levels the playing field so that small states aren't completely shut out of the process of the election. Giving small states a little more sway while not letting huge states completely dominate the polls by numbers alone = more reflective of the entire countries interest.

But why do the states even matter? Why can't it be as simple as everyone in the country voting and whoever gets the most votes wins?

Areo 11-09-2016 07:35 PM

im very interested to see what immigration reform Trump actually enacts. I'm in a border state, so this will certainly effect me. I pray we don't built the wall, since that won't help anyone(most undocumented immigrants are people overstaying their visas). However I do hope for change, perhaps just not as drastic as the wall.

Earlier discussed in this thread was the fact that the Clinton campaign payed Youtubers. Add MinutePhysics to the list.

David 11-09-2016 07:43 PM

We're the united states of America. "The united people of America" has a nicer idealistic ring to it, but that's just not the way it works. Highly populated areas have their own specific interests while less populated areas (like in the midwest) have their own interests. It's just not fair if a candidate wins the big cities and simply just caters to them, it gives them absolutely no incentive to improve upon the rest of the country that is less populated (but still very vast). Not to mention the electoral college actually gives minorities a larger voice in elections, because what if every election was decided by white people alone?

http://www.sciencebuzz.org/topics/el...ing-minorities

Thallen 11-09-2016 07:43 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 741426)
Vladimir Putin says Russia is ready to fully restore relations with the United States

This alone is a bigger accomplishment already than anything that Clinton was proposing

PigParty 11-09-2016 07:58 PM

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Posted by David (Post 741472)
We're the united states of America. "The united people of America" has a nicer idealistic ring to it, but that's just not the way it works. Highly populated areas have their own specific interests while less populated areas (like in the midwest) have their own interests. It's just not fair if a candidate wins the big cities and simply just caters to them, it gives them absolutely no incentive to improve upon the rest of the country that is less populated (but still very vast). Not to mention the electoral college actually gives minorities a larger voice in elections, because what if every election was decided by white people alone?

http://www.sciencebuzz.org/topics/el...ing-minorities

I just explained how big cities would actually have less of an impact with a popular vote. If candidates only catered toward big cities, then they would only get 9% of the vote. We don't have an electoral college because we're called the United States of America. Many states have their own big cities, in addition to their wide open rural areas. Dividing the vote up by states doesn't combine interests of the people from each state. Trump counted on rural areas in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, etc. while Clinton counted on the cities. 2 completely different interests, but still within one state. It just shows that state dividers are pointless for a presidential vote.

You can get 270 electoral votes and only win 22% of the popular vote. That's how ****ed up the electoral college system is. All these problems people come up for in defense of the electoral college don't actually exist.

Colin 11-09-2016 07:58 PM

For those salty he won
http://i.imgur.com/MWVW9iE.png

Thallen 11-09-2016 08:06 PM

http://puu.sh/scIYx/a76b787757.png

150k retweets on this. Dozens of people claiming it. Not a single audio or video. People are extremely thirsty to be the victim. These are the exact type of people that we're tired of politicians pandering to. These are the exact type of people who voted for Hillary. Why look into the facts when you can immediately become emotional and angry?

In one pathetic tweet like this, a candidate can become "racist."

http://www.snopes.com/trump-rally-chant/

Bryan* 11-09-2016 08:15 PM

When friends and family are disowning you cause you voted Trump LOL

Colin 11-09-2016 08:15 PM

We've received over 10 million immigration applications from U.S citizens, please stay in your own country.

Our PM said he'd ease immigration rules to help our American neighbors, and that's exactly the problem.

You have a country with millions of people who are willing to hop ship and give up right away without even putting up a fight, they can complain about Trump and his voters all they want, they are the real problem.

David 11-09-2016 08:16 PM

There's no reason a map should look like this:
http://i.imgur.com/mlgA8gE.jpg
and the candidate loses. You're just wrong. This picture clearly shows it. Hillary won New York and California by winning NYC and LA/San Diego alone...

Thallen 11-09-2016 08:18 PM

The Dow just hit an all-time high!

PigParty 11-09-2016 08:21 PM

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Posted by David (Post 741479)
There's no reason a map should look like this:
http://i.imgur.com/mlgA8gE.jpg
and the candidate loses. You're just wrong. This picture clearly shows it. Hillary won New York and California by winning NYC and LA/San Fran alone...

You're only proving my point. The electoral college caters to big cities in many states. Without the electoral college, you couldn't win by simply winning the majority of the big cities' votes.

5hift 11-09-2016 08:26 PM

Nice cancerous aftermath for this election.

Really goes to show how unbelievably deluded both sides can be.

Its like 60% of the American population are ******ed drama-queens that can't handle any ounce of truth.Oh wait...

I'm over it though.

Colin 11-09-2016 08:33 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 741480)
The Dow just hit an all-time high!

yep, a little panic and everyone automatically assumes it's the end, happens all the time in stock market, luckily my grandpa isn't an idiot and invested at the perfect opportunity

Dow is a stock market index for those who don't know, instead of it crashing like some of you thought and used it to 'prove' Trump is bad for the economy, it's doing the complete opposite, world markets too not just American ones

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2e&oe=582645DE

David 11-09-2016 08:40 PM

25,861,298 votes are from the top 10 biggest cities. If you cater to those cities you're in an extremely good position to do well in the general election because the cities are very spread out (NY, CA, OH, AZ, IL, FL etc). It has performed its function for over 200 years (and in over 50 presidential elections) by ensuring that the POTUS has both sufficient popular support to govern and that his popular support is sufficiently distributed throughout the country to enable him to govern effectively.

Not to mention it gives minorities an actual influence..

Colin 11-09-2016 08:52 PM



pretty good speech

Coco 11-09-2016 08:53 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 741478)
You have a country with millions of people who are willing to hop ship and give up right away without even putting up a fight, they can complain about Trump and his voters all they want, they are the real problem.

Kinda hard to fight when everything is corrupt and there's practically nothing you can do about it. I think I'm mostly upset about the fact that the DNC rigged it so Hillary would be the nominee. I mean wtf are you supposed to do when stuff like that happens? There's nothing you can do. If I could afford it I think I would rather get tf off this sinking ship before it's too late, too.

I don't even like Hillary, only reason I was for her was because she seemed less bad than Trump. I just really, really hope that Trump doesn't turn america into a "christian county" or some bull****...that's like my biggest concern there. No one seems to care about separation of church and state except most democrats...and now the republicans are taking over. I worry that we're going to take a giant leap backwards instead of moving forwards. I wanted Hillary to win because I'd rather nothing get done than the country getting even more messed up than it already is.

Red 11-09-2016 08:56 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 741489)
I'd rather nothing get done than the country getting even more messed up than it already is.

Switch the two around.
Hillary would of ****ed America.

Coco 11-09-2016 09:00 PM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 741490)
Switch the two around.
Hillary would of ****ed America.

Well i mean I feel like they're both horrible choices, but to each their own.

Colin 11-09-2016 09:05 PM

There was a lot of panic that Trump would shut out global markets, but he's willing to work with any nation as long as they are too which is why global markets are RISING.

His whole economical plan isn't even bad, like renegotiating The North American Free Trade Agreement is something that has to happen, the economy has seen one of the slowest recoveries in recorded history, all these people with no idea about economics just jumping to conclusions and freaking out over dumb things.

There's so much of what he has said being taken out of context and misused, he doesn't have any problem with Mexicans, Muslims, or any other race/religion.

His problem is illegal immigrants and terrorists, he's still going to let these people in so long as they do so legally (immigrants, not terrorists).

Also, he isn't heavily religious himself so don't worry about America becoming a Christian country, god knows why LGBTQ are getting so triggered, he hasn't targeted them at all nothing terrible will happen to them.

Striken 11-09-2016 09:06 PM

Cus Obama is so much better.

Coco 11-09-2016 09:10 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 741492)
There was a lot of panic that Trump would shut out global markets, but he's willing to work with any nation as long as they are too which is why global markets are RISING.

There's so much of what he has said being taken out of context and misused, he doesn't have any problem with Mexicans, Muslims, or any other race/religion.

His problem is illegal immigrants and terrorists, he's still going to let these people in so long as they do so legally.

Also, he isn't heavily religious himself so don't worry about America becoming a Christian country, god knows why LGBTQ are getting so triggered, he hasn't targeted them at all nothing terrible will happen to them.

Well I guess that's a little more comforting then....but there's still the fact that now the senate and congress is going to be full of republicans who may or may not be pretty religious...and not to mention pence...he's pretty religious and apparently believes homosexuality can be cured lol x_x

Hopefully he doesn't appoint too many religious nutjobs please

I'm not saying religion is bad or a problem btw...just that some people get so blinded by it they don't think of what is actually good for the country and more about what pleases or displeases their god...

5hift 11-09-2016 09:21 PM

The fact that people are somehow more terrified of Trump then a group of people who are more than happy to throw you off a building and cut your head off for being gay or transgender is baffling.

But by all means, be afraid of the orange-faced gremlin with blonde hair. You people totally have your priorities straight.

PigParty 11-09-2016 09:21 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 741495)
Well I guess that's a little more comforting then....but there's still the fact that now the senate and congress is going to be full of republicans who may or may not be pretty religious...and not to mention pence...he's pretty religious and apparently believes homosexuality can be cured lol x_x

Hopefully he doesn't appoint too many religious nutjobs please

I'm not saying religion is bad or a problem btw...just that some people get so blinded by it they don't think of what is actually good for the country and more about what pleases or displeases their god...

I don't get why politics has to be us vs. them. I hate political parties so much that I don't even identify as an independent. I get what you're saying, though, and I hate when they bring religion into it too. For example I'm not against abortion because of my religion, but many politicians are against it for that specific reason. Church & State are separate.

Pimpsy G. 11-09-2016 09:23 PM

Crap. Apparently trump chose Myron Ebell to lead his U.S. EPA transition team. He thinks that climate change is nothing to worry about and we should just ignore it. Probably in the crowd that believes a .8 degree change is nothing to worry about and getting rid of EPA regulations for a short term economy boost is more important. To me, thats the equivalent of thinking its okay to drink 3 bottles of soda every day because it doesn't appear to be hurting you right now.

http://linkis.com/tctA1

Also yeah, I'm worried about what influence Pence will have. He's a religious nut and I hope trump doesn't get swayed by him with his more radical ideas.

As of now I'm less worried about trump and more worried about the people he's surrounding himself with.

Thallen 11-09-2016 09:24 PM

I'm pretty happy that Trump did so well with white women. I saw exit polls saying ~65%. I'm glad they were able to look past the headlines to the actual policies and issues. It gives me faith seeing that they value more in a candidate than them being of the same gender or something they said over 10 years ago.

Coco 11-09-2016 09:27 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 741498)
I don't get why politics has to be us vs. them. I hate political parties so much that I don't even identify as an independent. I get what you're saying, though, and I hate when they bring religion into it too. For example I'm not against abortion because of my religion, but many politicians are against it for that specific reason. Church & State are separate.

That's one of the biggest problems in this country imo. Some people just don't even care about separation of church and state...and the fact that those people seem to almost always be republicans is what worries me. If Trump isn't going to be any kind of threat to the separation of church and state then that's great, makes me feel a lot better...but since now congress and the senate are going to be packed full of republicans...I can't help but be a little concerned for the country's future.

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 741499)
Crap. Apparently trump chose Myron Ebell to lead his U.S. EPA transition team. He thinks that climate change is nothing to worry about and we should just ignore it. Probably in the crowd that believes a .8 degree change is nothing to worry about and getting rid of EPA regulations for a short term economy boost is more important. To me, thats the equivalent of thinking its okay to drink 3 bottles of soda every day because it doesn't appear to be hurting you right now.

Yeahhh I saw that too... another reason why I hoped Trump didn't win. He thinks climate change isn't a thing x_x

Colin 11-09-2016 09:41 PM

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