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Aguzo 12-09-2015 03:50 AM

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Posted by James205 (Post 642915)
When you enter a spar everyone has equal stats/sword. If you spar there sometime youll see

Not when I sparred. People would take advantage of me not having level 3 sword & shield.

What I was saying was, can staff do this without changing the way pk health/hits work?

James205 12-09-2015 03:50 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 642917)
Yes, but I was saying, What happens when you leave? I prefer keeping 3 hearts, and "level 1" sword for pk.

You keep 3 hearts/level 1 sword

rickclops 12-09-2015 03:51 AM

Aguzo, the oldbies have a lot of experience with more hearts and faster walk speed. There is a lot less chance of losing to random laggers or people who swing a lot in every direction. Also, you can fake a lot better with faster walk speed, or circle people more quickly, or have faster close up exchanges. There's more skill used overall.

qes 12-09-2015 03:53 AM

I think more hearts would be great but lets think about what effect this would have on pk

Zetectic 12-09-2015 03:56 AM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 642919)
Aguzo, the oldbies have a lot of experience with more hearts and faster walk speed. There is a lot less chance of losing to random laggers or people who swing a lot in every direction. Also, you can fake a lot better with faster walk speed, or circle people more quickly, or have faster close up exchanges. There's more skill used overall.

i have lvl 3 sword and 13 hearts on UN. i feel much slower than Classic. so where is this faster walk speed coming from?

Zideruic 12-09-2015 03:56 AM

lol you guys are acting like there was no pking or sparring on Playerworlds graal....

Aguzo 12-09-2015 03:57 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 642923)
so where is this faster walk speed coming from?

Staff said it was the same speed, from what I remember.
I don't see the difference.

Zideruic 12-09-2015 03:57 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 642925)
Staff said it was the same speed, from what I remember.
I don't see the difference.

I've heard the same thing, but to this day when I log into client graal I feel much faster.

It could be perceived speed though, maybe the control response is superior on the pc client.

Fulgore 12-09-2015 04:00 AM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 642919)
Aguzo, the oldbies have a lot of experience with more hearts and faster walk speed. There is a lot less chance of losing to random laggers or people who swing a lot in every direction. Also, you can fake a lot better with faster walk speed, or circle people more quickly, or have faster close up exchanges. There's more skill used overall.

From the time I had on UN, which wasn't super extensive, I noticed this as well. Also, UN hitboxes were slightly different with active vs. inactive frames on the sword swing if I remember correctly from someone telling me. Overall I actually prefer the mechanics of it there as opposed to here, but this would be a massive change so I don't know if all this speculation will amount to anything.

James205 12-09-2015 04:01 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 642930)
From the time I had on UN, which wasn't super extensive, I noticed this as well. Also, UN hitboxes were slightly different with active vs. inactive frames on the sword swing if I remember correctly from someone telling me. Overall I actually prefer the mechanics of it there as opposed to here, but this would be a massive change so I don't know if all this speculation will amount to anything.

Used to be even better prior to V6 :(

qes 12-09-2015 04:02 AM

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Posted by Zideruic (Post 642924)
lol you guys are acting like there was no pking or sparring on Playerworlds graal....

classic has towers packed with people that get cleaned out quickly due to low HP. Just wonder what effect that would have on towers packed with people, but Pkers like Xenthic have tons of pks due to the low HP, players joining the game after the change is made would never be able to get 700k pks. Wouldn't it be much harder and less chances of finding people at low health when their are more hearts? Because I'm sure Xenthic will tell you himself, when he pks at mod he gets a lot of kills, and a good majority are people starting off at 1.5 or 1.0 or .5
So it would have a bad effect on leaderboards for pks, nobody would be able to catch up

rickclops 12-09-2015 04:22 AM

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Posted by James205 (Post 642931)
Used to be even better prior to V6 :(

Ya, V5 was the last good graal version. Shield 3 has always been faster walk speed than no shield 3.

Zideruic 12-09-2015 04:25 AM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 642937)
Ya, V5 was the last good graal version. Shield 3 has always been faster walk speed than no shield 3.

R.I.P. Graalv5....<3

Yami 12-09-2015 04:40 AM

you all need graal v5 cus your pc's are from 1993





http://puu.sh/lOLCn/2f1542dc14.png

rickclops 12-09-2015 06:21 AM

Yep, V5 was the last version with little lag.


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