What have you done for this server?

"when a player hosts better events than staff thats sad,"-Trip
rufus contributions:graalians.com,gst, more pkable land,spar update,
even if you do not agree with rufus or dislike him personally,going against him would be making iclassic decline because all he had done is make it better.

ok we are realy going off topic now lol.

You wanted to leave Ventrue but didn't you kept up bringing up excuses when really you could have left we weren't holding you back I might have talked to you when you BARELY joined but that's about it then after Angelus caught you multiguilding with several other serious guilds that is when he kicked you.The next day was when I got your rage message and saw your rage status "Screw Ventrue" was a bit funny seeing as how you got caught multiguilding and you're on here talking about "Loyalty" you wouldn't know what "Loyalty"is if it smacked you on the face.With that said I think I should stop I've said what I had to say towards you.

He's helped out the whole damn server dude LMAO,Not trying to bash on you but if it wasn't for Rufus's ideas or updates the server would be how it was before..boring and nothing fun to look forward to.

lmao wow. what exactly have you done for this server again? youve been hired here for a while now why dont you fix them? and they have benifited a lot of people actually. at least hes actually helping the server and doing work for it while you just run around with your boots all day hugging people. rufus is actually making updates which make the game fun. while most of them are for sparrers, and people who like the fighting aspect of the game, so what?

My reaction to Gambit owning qes and Rufus owning Elly

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Do you read what you type?

crawl back into the dumpster kiddo

Yes.

With all due respect, you are wrong. Rufus is not a staff member, therefore it really isn't his job to use "magical talents" to fix major problems you find. Simply, he has ideas and goes through with them. He also does it without anyone asking him to.

Also, his ideas and updates benefit the whole server. Be honest, how often do you say showlag when you are curious about a lag spike? Thank Rufus. People have been complaining about how tower guilds always have all the fun.. Well, Rufus gave competitive spar guilds a competition of their own, as well. Now, he has fixed the unfair ratings and records, and made spar so much more fun for so many people. In fact, yesterday night, the average player count in any single spar room almost tripled!

This is a defensive argument on my part. I am in no way trying to offend you, because I know you are a Graal Police staff, and it is not your job to develop updates for the server. I am, however, going to say that you probably didn't have much of a right to flame my friend for all he's done, if it isn't your job and you have done less anyway. You are a great GP, but leave the developing to the developers and/or very generous players.

On the other hand, if you think someone should focus on another topic while developing, let your voice be heard! No need for an argument if you avoid conflict in the first place. You may have sent your message to him in the wrong way. Why not suggest a better way to aid the server to developers, since it is their job anyway? :)

EDIT: Let's get back on topic.. :x

Rufus just tries to take over any server he plays on.

If he does that while benefiting the server, who cares? It might be more fun.

why is this still going? *yawns*

Wondering the same. It's all off-topic, so I'm expecting someone to close the thread already.

Basically- Guild Loyalty is all well and good, it'd be amazing if it happened more, but it probably won't because a lot of the kids who play iGraal DO NOT CARE. :I

(Sadly)

Guild loyalty is not all well and good but it probably won't change.

How is it not all well and good? I think it is. It's great to have members who stick around.