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rickclops 02-27-2016 09:28 PM

Several teams haven't had all of their members warped in during GST, or had a member get warped out mid match. This is shaping up to be a bad one.

Rufus isn't staff anymore. They should be able to hire some admins who aren't his friend that can run this tournament.

UU 02-27-2016 09:30 PM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 678646)
Several teams haven't had all of their members warped in during GST, or had a member get warped out mid match. This is shaping up to be a bad one.

Yeah not to mention 2-1 victories being 1 game rematched due to someone lagging out (so their characters frozen and immortal)

eko 02-27-2016 09:55 PM

round 2 kappa

Chun 02-27-2016 09:56 PM

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Posted by UU (Post 678647)
Yeah not to mention 2-1 victories being 1 game rematched due to someone lagging out (so their characters frozen and immortal)

at least you have a rematch lol we had to 4v5 because one of us lagged out. Admin said "no redo's are allowed." It was a bad idea thinking I could finally do a gst to have fun without trying to compete.

eko 02-27-2016 09:57 PM

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Posted by Chun (Post 678655)
at least you have a rematch lol we had to 4v5 because one of us lagged out. Admin said "no redo's are allowed." It was a bad idea thinking I could finally do a gst to have fun without trying to compete.

Yeah i saw that, looked like ariona tried to tell the admins too and just got combo'd to death

Ruppy 02-27-2016 09:59 PM

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Posted by eko (Post 678657)
Yeah i saw that, looked like ariona tried to tell the admins too and just got combo'd to death

yep my internet suspiciously crashed but admins don't give a hoot Xdi can't control my internet but they can control fairness

Relic 02-27-2016 10:01 PM

It really sucks for the teams that had people not warped in, AFK, or who got screwed with bull**** rematches.

On the bright side, at least we lost to a legitimate team this GST and not some troll VPN team - the lower bracket was a pretty tough one. GL to the remaining teams!

Ruppy 02-27-2016 10:21 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seXDMqKnT0c watch video...

fp4 02-27-2016 10:35 PM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 678676)

that sucks but there's nothing that can be done about it.

Brett 02-27-2016 10:38 PM

Should be a pause feature with 2-3 minutes till DQ

Red 02-27-2016 10:38 PM

So jimbo from the walking dead is known to intentionally lag like rexxx does, hes been doing it all tournament and hasn't been caught how, as soon as I say a word about it an admin disconnects me lol wtf

Ruppy 02-27-2016 10:38 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678687)
that sucks but there's nothing that can be done about it.

yes there can! you can wait a mere 1 minute for me to get back on! its really not hard XD
if things like these keep happening no one will ant to do get anymore because its not fun when its not fair and GST is about FUN

Chun 02-27-2016 10:43 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678687)
that sucks but there's nothing that can be done about it.

There is. There is jimbo from the walking dead that excessive lag without getting DQ. And then there was someone lagging in Daughter vs Birthright that got their rematch. I smell favoritism here. Maybe set some rules or guidelines so admins would allow rematch for someone lagging out.

Ruppy 02-27-2016 10:46 PM

LOL sarzar admin said it would be unfair to other team if they gave me redo HAHAHAHAHA and they tell me these admins know what they doing. the other team greed with us that not getting a redo was unfair to US

fp4 02-27-2016 10:46 PM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 678691)
yes there can! you can wait a mere 1 minute for me to get back on! its really not hard XD
if things like these keep happening no one will ant to do get anymore because its not fun when its not fair and GST is about FUN

then people will start intentionally disconnecting and claim the same thing.

Ariona13 02-27-2016 10:47 PM

I dont know if this is favoritism or laziness but yea something has to be done, I know u cant do anything "now" but maybe next GST a little more reliable host?

juan23 02-27-2016 10:47 PM

so is entity getting 1v3'd by a girl with 65-158 spar anyone else's favorite highlight for idev?

Ruppy 02-27-2016 10:48 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678702)
then people will start intentionally disconnecting and claim the same thing.

i disconnected before the match started!!! so it wasn't like we were losing i didn't even start!
I can understand that but i didn't even start watch video see for urself!

Chun 02-27-2016 10:50 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678702)
then people will start intentionally disconnecting and claim the same thing.

I could understand if no redo for someone lagged out in middle of a GS, but it is pretty obvious he lagged out before the match even started. It makes completely no sense for him to disconnect intentionally before the match even started. Someone lagging out in the middle of a GS is a different story from lagging out before it even started.

Ruppy 02-27-2016 10:50 PM

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Posted by Chun (Post 678708)
I could understand if no redo for someone lagged out in middle of a GS, but it is pretty obvious he lagged out before the match even started. It makes completely no sense for him to disconnect intentionally before the match even started. Someone lagging out in the middle of a GS is a different story from lagging out before it even started.

exactly

rickclops 02-27-2016 10:57 PM

I had no idea Entity would take 3rd on mixed side, and I've never even seen Birthright before.

Ph8 02-27-2016 10:57 PM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 678706)
i disconnected before the match started!!! so it wasn't like we were losing i didn't even start!
I can understand that but i didn't even start watch video see for urself!

I gotta say I agree with this. He clearly never was able to even move if he was warped into the spar at all. I'm sure hosting these is a tough job for Admins who usually don't do this sort of thing, but I would think the right thing to do would be that the Admin notices one of the teams is missing a player/a player is frozen and ends the round quickly so the other team has no reason to complain.

Though if he got dced in the middle of a round, then yeah, he's just sol.

Ruppy 02-27-2016 10:58 PM

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Posted by Ph8 (Post 678712)
I gotta say I agree with this. He clearly never was able to even move if he was warped into the spar at all. I'm sure hosting these is a tough job for Admins who usually don't do this sort of thing, but I would think the right thing to do would be that the Admin notices one of the teams is missing a player/a player is frozen and ends the round quickly so the other team has no reason to complain.

Though if he got dced in the middle of a round, then yeah, he's just sol.

exactly i understand if dc in middle of match but it was b4...

Bryan* 02-27-2016 10:59 PM

There were several matches I liked while watching this GST. For example in R2 or R1 can't remember Elysian vs Headphones whereas one member of Headphones got a double kill in 1 hit and it pretty much was the best move of the match to tie it 1-1. They went on to win that match. Another was Entity vs Matrix whereas it was 1-1 and the leader of Matrix clutched it against 3 Entity members.

Ruppy 02-27-2016 11:02 PM

fp4 i understand you cannot do anything about it but i need you to have this changed for future get or else other people will not have fun because of a lack of leadership :/ i just want apology and yes it will be fixed :)

Red 02-27-2016 11:05 PM

This gst has the worst hosts of all time, Cronos there and you give some chick named marshmallow more authority then him LOL what.

You finally dq jimbo then let him spar in the 3rd place match what the *** is wrong with these gps lmao.

Ruppy 02-27-2016 11:05 PM

we should revolt an no one should do get until something is fixed because this is corrupt :/

Chun 02-27-2016 11:09 PM

So why not just let the admins vote for the winner and let it be the result? :D

Ruppy 02-27-2016 11:10 PM

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Posted by Chun (Post 678719)
So why not just let the admins vote for the winner and let it be the result? :D

thats already occurring except the only candidate is Alumni (not Alumni fault)

Relic 02-27-2016 11:20 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678702)
then people will start intentionally disconnecting and claim the same thing.

Honestly, even just some consistency would go a long way.

Don't give a redo in one case of someone disconnecting and not give it in another. Get the admins on the same page so they all clearly know the criteria (e.g. a player not moving at start of match/dcing without moving = redo) and apply them consistently.

Ruppy 02-27-2016 11:27 PM

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Posted by Relic (Post 678722)
Honestly, even just some consistency would go a long way.

Don't give a redo in one case of someone disconnecting and not give it in another. Get the admins on the same page so they all clearly know the criteria (e.g. a player not moving at start of match/dcing without moving = redo) and apply them consistently.

true but thats sadly not the case XD

Kuz 02-27-2016 11:28 PM

All trolling aside...Good Job to all the teams that participated...This was a great and intense GST we saw a few surprises. Good Job to all admins on the mixed side that hosted my matches e.g. Nathan, Marshmellow and Crono it was smoothly hosted.

No complaints. Good Job All. Good Job Alumni.

Brett 02-27-2016 11:31 PM

Didn't do good or probably would've won gg. 2nd rd last hit was a lil iffy

Relic 02-27-2016 11:34 PM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 678723)
true but thats sadly not the case XD

It needs to be the case though to be honest, GST is what keeps a lot of players coming back to Graal even after they stop playing (2nd time since I came back that Ares has been online was for GST today and a lot of other players also rarely log on until It's time to prepare for GST - you guys are another prime example).

As you said, ruining the fun factor with inconsistent rulings and stuff is just going to leave a sour taste in people's mouths and stop some of these players from returning every season.

I feel bad for you guys and for the other teams who had issues with players at the start of matches. Also for the one team who I heard actually won 2-1 but then randomly got forced to redo. Like, what??

Ruppy 02-27-2016 11:34 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 678724)
All trolling aside...Good Job to all the teams that participated...This was a great and intense GST we saw a few surprises. Good Job to all admins on the mixed side that hosted my matches e.g. Nathan, Marshmellow and Crono it was smoothly hosted.

No complaints. Good Job All. Good Job Alumni.

Nathan and Marshmallow screwed us over thanks guys!

Crono 02-27-2016 11:35 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 678724)
All trolling aside...Good Job to all the teams that participated...This was a great and intense GST we saw a few surprises. Good Job to all admins on the mixed side that hosted my matches e.g. Nathan, Marshmellow and Crono it was smoothly hosted.

No complaints. Good Job All. Good Job Alumni.

all credit goes to the others :) i was only spectating

David M. 02-27-2016 11:38 PM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 678717)
This gst has the worst hosts of all time, Cronos there and you give some chick named marshmallow more authority then him LOL what.

You finally dq jimbo then let him spar in the 3rd place match what the *** is wrong with these gps lmao.

Jimbo dq was bs

Ariona13 02-27-2016 11:40 PM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 678727)
Nathan and Marshmallow screwed us over thanks guys!

yup

Warhawk 02-27-2016 11:40 PM

Atleast u guys got to play..Monster Energy had 3 guilds in but we couldnt get 1 spot.

T3CK 02-27-2016 11:46 PM

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Posted by Warhawk (Post 678734)
Atleast u guys got to play..Monster Energy had 3 guilds in but we couldnt get 1 spot.


Should have cored that John Rocker guy, when he's in the team, qualifying isn't necessary because everyone already knoooooows the team is good enough

Crono 02-27-2016 11:48 PM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 678717)
This gst has the worst hosts of all time, Cronos there and you give some chick named marshmallow more authority then him LOL what.

You finally dq jimbo then let him spar in the 3rd place match what the *** is wrong with these gps lmao.

im not a gst host and was alt tabbed most of the time

Red 02-28-2016 12:32 AM

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Posted by David M. (Post 678730)
Jimbo dq was bs

You only say that because you lost fair and square bud, 2-1 or 2-0 it don't matter

Thallen 02-28-2016 12:35 AM

Mikva was the only non-Alumni who believed or maybe my memory just sucks

David M. 02-28-2016 12:35 AM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 678770)
You only say that because you lost fair and square bud, 2-1 or 2-0 it don't matter

In 5years this is the first GST you will hear me complain, crying because u guys lost terribly in the first round is pathetic. Had you not cried it would've been 2-0 and u know it.

Red 02-28-2016 12:40 AM

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Posted by David M. (Post 678772)
In 5years this is the first GST you will hear me complain, crying because u guys lost terribly in the first round is pathetic. Had you not cried it would've been 2-0 and u know it.

it turned into a 3v3 where jimbo was teleporting everywhere rapidly and getting hits how is it not fair to dq him and redo the spar

David M. 02-28-2016 12:41 AM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 678773)
it turned into a 3v3 where jimbo was teleporting everywhere rapidly and getting hits how is it not fair to dq him and redo the spar

They removed him while he had 2hp left, and we still won. Also, we didn't complain about your aussie delay or your banned player. U guys shouldve been entirely disqualified.

Striken 02-28-2016 12:55 AM

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Posted by David M. (Post 678775)
They removed him while he had 2hp left, and we still won. Also, we didn't complain about your aussie delay or your banned player. U guys shouldve been entirely disqualified.

Quit complaining. Aussie delay isn't as bad as constantly warping and delaying as well.

James205 02-28-2016 12:57 AM

I recorded almost every match, for people asking just give me a little time to go through it and etc

Abood_graal 02-28-2016 12:58 AM

I won

Relic 02-28-2016 01:00 AM

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Posted by Abood_graal (Post 678791)
I won

If AK doesn't let you sing for him now he should be kicked from Alumni iDev :blush:


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