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Yami 02-04-2013 11:54 PM

PC's do not have a speed advantage, mobility is greatly easier than an idevice d-pad, but with that said, i don't think its unfair to the point where its impossible to win, i'd mostlikey be a iClassic PC player if it wasnt for the fact that my computer is a Windows 2000.

PC is not the enemy here... this is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65_uNJOV08c

Crono 02-05-2013 12:13 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 292956)
Again, I'm not going to waste any more effort typing out any well-thought and explanatory posts on this topic because they're clearly going to waste. I really don't understand why you're taking offense to anything I said, actually. None of it was subjective or even offensive. I'd be willing to open up and go back into if an active and at least semi-accomplished member of the sparring community comes along and wants to discuss it intelligently. It'd probably be best to do that through PMs.

I'll be on iClassic winning spars in the meantime.

ya that's why i stopped arguing on forums, people are ******ed. you could have the most bulletproof logical statement and some dumbass will just glance over it and go back to their ****ty arguement.

GOAT 02-05-2013 12:46 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 292956)
Again, I'm not going to waste any more effort typing out any well-thought and explanatory posts on this topic because they're clearly going to waste. I really don't understand why you're taking offense to anything I said, actually. None of it was subjective or even offensive. I'd be willing to open up and go back into if an active and at least semi-accomplished member of the sparring community comes along and wants to discuss it intelligently. It'd probably be best to do that through PMs.

I'll be on iClassic winning spars in the meantime.

Goat: calls out pc rs
Thallen:calls out idevicers
Goat: accepts challenge and is willing to go pc mode
Thallen: ignores challenge and accuses GOAT of not wanting to use pc to level the playing field by using a pc to spar and to top it off asks him why hes getting offended lol in the words of Barbie F logic
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Posted by Imprint (Post 292980)
Pretty sure the speed difference between an newer iDevice and an older one is related to the FPS (correct me if I'm wrong). But graal caps FPS at 30 so a PC wouldn't have any more of an advantage then a newer device.

Im not sure what FPS is but I guess it has to do with speed. What im getting out of your comment is that pc s and newer idevices (im assuming iphone5 and ipad3) are about the same speed do to the FPS cap. So heres my questions in regards to your post.

1.do all idevices have the power/strength to reach the FPS cap without any assistance?
2.do most pc s have the power/strength to reach the FPS cap without any assistance?
3.if pc or devices don’t have the power to reach the FPS cap by themselves is there ways people can make them reach that cap with some type of program?

I don’t know the technicalities of how things work so I cant really argue from that point of view. I only respond from what I have experienced playing. Just because it sounds right doesn’t mean its right. Im a use another example. If you tell Thor his hit detection sucks he quickly replies with all the technical information about how things work and he usually wins that argument but no matter how right his argument is the fact is that his hit detection is sucks. I wouldn’t know how to explain why it sucks but when I spar in pc classic the hit detection just sucks.
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Posted by Crono (Post 293118)
ya that's why i stopped arguing on forums, people are ******ed. you could have the most bulletproof logical statement and some dumbass will just glance over it and go back to their ****ty arguement.

In the words of my fellow idevicers “U MAD BRO? lol

I don’t know the technicalities of how things work so I cant really argue from that point of view. I only respond from what I have experienced playing. Just because it sounds right doesn’t mean its right. Im a use another example. If you tell Thor his hit detection sucks he quickly replies with all the technical information about how things work and he usually wins that argument but no matter how right his argument is the fact is that his hit detection is sucks. I wouldn’t know how to explain why it sucks but when I spar in pc classic the hit detection just sucks.

Craig 02-05-2013 09:57 AM

FPS = FramesPerSecond

Rezon 02-05-2013 12:40 PM

My toaster can reach 30fps playing graal, iPods can easily reach this.

Edit: Just finished reading Goat's post, he argues about an abbreviation he doesn't know then copy and pastes a paragraph to make his post look bigger. By the way, if you don't know what FPS is why the hell are you even arguing about performance and speed of running graal, are you eyeballing everything?

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 292723)
wtf is this ****? I'm only stating my opinions and FACTS of how PC is ****ing unfair, why are you giving me this scrub ****?
Are you really that clueless to be copying and pasting something that is completely irreverent to the topic?

That copy and paste text is completely from another game. Just admit that being on a PC is unfair to all the iDevice players.

I'm just trying to help you understand that playing unfairly doesn't make you the best, it just makes you a simple cheater, that it :)

Goodnight

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Playing to win is the most important and most widely misunderstood concept in all of competitive games. The sad irony is that those who do not already understand the implications I'm about to spell out will probably not believe them to be true at all.

Goat for best reader NA. My sides, lol.

Zerxus 02-05-2013 06:32 PM

I can see how pc sparrers have an edge with the movement, not so much on speed though.
I only spar on phone now a days though so I would probably be even more horrible on pc

1.st Unknown 02-05-2013 07:04 PM

I'm sure nearly everyone got a PC at home, if you think that it's really that unfair, get on your PC and spar.

Craig 02-05-2013 07:13 PM

Oh Craig, just stop it you already lost.

GotenGraal 02-05-2013 07:28 PM

Pc players walk through sword hits all the time. That being said I honestly cannot see how people are still acting like pc's don't have an advantage when it's clearly obvious. I'm stating a fact not complaining, there is an iDevice only spar room and Gst so it's not a problem anymore anyway.

1.st Unknown 02-05-2013 08:17 PM

Lag and delay are a part of the game, adapt to it or shut up.

Tyler 02-05-2013 08:17 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 293690)
Pc players walk through sword hits all the time. That being said I honestly cannot see how people are still acting like pc's don't have an advantage when it's clearly obvious. I'm stating a fact not complaining, there is an iDevice only spar room and Gst so it's not a problem anymore anyway.

Anyone who uses a PC as their main sparring device are going to defend it to the very core. I hate the fact it was ever added to iClassic. I'm just glad they finally have an iDevice only room. Except sometimes you have to wait awhile before someone enters. I've seen those fancy little maneuvers they can do with their keyboards. Annoying as hell.

Craig 02-05-2013 08:19 PM

iPads may use Keyboards aswell, so they could move the same?

Tyler 02-05-2013 08:22 PM

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Posted by Prynce (Post 293761)
iPads may use Keyboards aswell, so they could move the same?

I wasn't aware they could use keyboards, but I guess same goes for iPads if that's true. They keyboard is my overall main problem with it.

Rezon 02-05-2013 08:26 PM

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Posted by Prynce (Post 293748)
I have pictures on my iDevice since I bough it aswell, I just don't upgrade this 2g nor do I restore files on it because there is no use at all, so I don't see any reason why this would be so dramatic, and funny; Mrs Caps.

look @ the content of the pm

how is that significant/important in any way

Ash Ketchum 02-05-2013 08:34 PM

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Posted by Prynce (Post 293761)
iPads may use Keyboards aswell, so they could move the same?

It doesn't work


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