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Comyt 02-14-2013 12:07 AM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 298124)
Yeah, pk rates, how fast you die, how many kills you get before you die with 3.0, etc. I don't know how you can even argue this.

those aren't based on skill, those depend on what situation you're in.

how fast you die: if you're in a mob of spam, you'll die fast no matter what. if you aren't, then go ahead and run away while spamming like everybody tends to do and you'll live long. you can't be better than somebody else at running away and spamming.

how many kills you get: if there happen to be a bunch of 0.5s around you while you're spamming all over the place, or "pking," then you'll get a lot of kills. if there are people with 3.0 all around you, you won't get a lot of kills.

pking isn't skill-based, but luck based.

GotenGraal 02-14-2013 12:07 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 298129)
Goten, you are neither a good sparrer nor a "good PKer" so quit trying to speak on behalf of either.

Oh, I didn't know the mighty Thallen set the standards and decides who's good and who's not. Second: DID I EVER SAY I WAS?!?

Comyt 02-14-2013 12:10 AM

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Posted by The Troll (Post 298125)
You can spam all over the place in spar AS WELL.
Don't try to cop out.

you CAN spam all over the place, but you will lose, unless your enemy is completely idiotic. in pking, this technique tends to get you a lot of kills. you can't even pretend that sparring takes the same amount of skill as pking, sparring actually takes skill.

The Troll 02-14-2013 12:10 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 298131)
those aren't based on skill, those depend on what situation you're in.

how fast you die: if you're in a mob of spam, you'll die fast no matter what. if you aren't, then go ahead and run away while spamming like everybody tends to do and you'll live long. you can't be better than somebody else at running away and spamming.

how many kills you get: if there happen to be a bunch of 0.5s around you while you're spamming all over the place, or "pking," then you'll get a lot of kills. if there are people with 3.0 all around you, you won't get a lot of kills.

pking isn't skill-based, but luck based.

Same from spar, I can spam you in spar and run away to the safe spots in a small square. Pking is not luck based. Ask the people in PC era.

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Posted by Comyt (Post 298134)
you CAN spam all over the place, but you will lose, unless your enemy is completely idiotic. in pking, this technique tends to get you a lot of kills. you can't even pretend that sparring takes the same amount of skill as pking, sparring actually takes skill.

What skill exactly? LOL. Explain.

Thallen 02-14-2013 12:10 AM

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Posted by The Troll (Post 298135)
Same from spar, I can spam you in spar and run away to the safe spots in a small square. Pking is not luck based. Ask the people in PC era.

Yeah, comparing PKing on Classic to PKing on Era. You're not even a troll, you're actually just a moron. I don't blame you for being too cowardly to post as an identifiable username.

GotenGraal 02-14-2013 12:11 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 298131)
those aren't based on skill, those depend on what situation you're in.

how fast you die: if you're in a mob of spam, you'll die fast no matter what. if you aren't, then go ahead and run away while spamming like everybody tends to do and you'll live long. you can't be better than somebody else at running away and spamming.

how many kills you get: if there happen to be a bunch of 0.5s around you while you're spamming all over the place, or "pking," then you'll get a lot of kills. if there are people with 3.0 all around you, you won't get a lot of kills.

pking isn't skill-based, but luck based.

This is the worst argument I've ever heard. What if: You get to flag room alone and it becomes 1 v 1? That's still pking. What if: You're pking with 3 or 4 enemies around you and actually maneuver well and get a good amount of hits in. Honestly if it was luck based you could go to any tower, spam your sword with 0 movement and get the same amount of kills as someone actually trying.

Comyt 02-14-2013 12:12 AM

yeah, not even going to respond to that guy. another person wandering around on this thread who clearly doesn't belong.

TD* 02-14-2013 12:14 AM

This topic should be shut down. Both sides are attacking the users and not the arguments.

The Troll 02-14-2013 12:15 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 298139)
yeah, not even going to respond to that guy. another person wandering around on this thread who clearly doesn't belong.

You never answered my question. WHAT SKILL DO YOU NEED IN SPAR?

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Posted by TD* (Post 298141)
This topic should be shut down. Both sides are attacking the users and not the arguments.

I'll delete my comments.

Thallen 02-14-2013 12:15 AM

It should have been shut down several pages ago. It should especially be shut down now that a recognized iDevice sparrer has contributed to the thread. Nothing can be said that hasn't already been said, it'll just be a contest to see who can embarrass themselves more: GOAT or Goten.

Comyt 02-14-2013 12:16 AM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 298138)
What if: You get to flag room alone and it becomes 1 v 1? That's still pking. What if: You're pking with 3 or 4 enemies around you and actually maneuver well and get a good amount of hits in.

if its 1v1, its SPARRING.
if you could actually 1v4 in the extremely tiny amount of space provided for you in a flag room, then you'd have finally made a good point. but you can't, there isn't enough room to actually perform that, unless they aren't trying to kill you and are too busy spamming at their flag.

The Troll 02-14-2013 12:18 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 298143)
It should have been shut down several pages ago. It should especially be shut down now that a recognized iDevice sparrer has contributed to the thread. Nothing can be said that hasn't already been said, it'll just be a contest to see who can embarrass themselves more, GOAT or Goten.

What happens if you embarrass yourself? It's not like 7 billion people of the earth cares.

Comyt 02-14-2013 12:18 AM

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Posted by The Troll (Post 298140)
You're not even special yourself. You're a average sparrer at best.

you clearly don't know anything about any sparrers. just leave.

The Troll 02-14-2013 12:19 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 298147)
you clearly don't know anything about any sparrers. just leave.

Make me. Sparrers are wack. I can care grave less about sparing anyways.

And plus you never answered the question: What skill is required for Graalonline pixelized spar?

Oh wait...... "You don't belong here." LOL

GotenGraal 02-14-2013 12:24 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 298144)
if its 1v1, its SPARRING.
if you could actually 1v4 in the extremely tiny amount of space provided for you in a flag room, then you'd have finally made a good point. but you can't, there isn't enough room to actually perform that, unless they aren't trying to kill you and are too busy spamming at their flag.

Hello castle flag room is bigger than a spar room...Snow flag room is also big enough, so is york, so is mod, so is swamp. The only ones that'd be cluttered 1v4 are sardon and dw. And no 1 v 1 outside of the spar arena is PKING. That's why a kill will increase if you kill them or a death will be added to your showdeaths.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 298143)
It should have been shut down several pages ago. It should especially be shut down now that a recognized iDevice sparrer has contributed to the thread. Nothing can be said that hasn't already been said, it'll just be a contest to see who can embarrass themselves more: GOAT or Goten.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 296188)
I hate for the conversation to go in this direction, but how old are you? I don't mean it in any way that I should be commended for being a 20 year-old dude who still plays this stupid game, but I'm seeing this whole discussion gradually shift away from experience (where I sure as hell have a lot more than you) and more towards understanding and intelligence (see last parenthesis).

And with that post, Thallen wins the embarassment contest!


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