I bought it when i could have bought a better gun. its funny cuz i have bought two semi expensive crappy guns (KSG, tec9) the tec9 is almost half as expensive and its better though. im just back to using dual desert eagles and an m16 xD

Yeah, I regret buying the Sten and the Thompson. Yes, they're better guns and I'm not complaining about quality. Well, except for the Sten (which is at least 10k more than the M4 but has a crappy fire rate. The clip size is the only positive.).

Let's all rage about how crappy the guns on iEra are >:] I mean AP0....what's that about...am I right? ;)

Well, this thread went heavily off topic :3

I say revert it back to its original stats AYE! I'm sure many KSG users in game who don't log on to graalians would agree, if you want I can set a in game campaign out for the vote of the KSG future.

Classic has a piano at 50k, a 2 person mount at 50k and another at 100k.

this thread is sooooo dumb. they arent going to refund you if they did the rest of us would get pist off. cause i bought an ap0 and i regretted it. but dont go on the forums and go REFUND MY GUN.

It has the same RoF as the M4 if you semi-auto or move around while shooting.

And then everyone that gets killed by the re-overpowered KSG gets pissed.

Doesn't feel that way. Seems I get owned when using the Sten, while the M4 seems to be much better.

Anyway, I'm off topic. I'll stop talking about guns not related to the KSG.

Snake, would freeze help the balancing of the KSG? I suggest resetting the stats. Then resetting the shield to block actual bullets like it was when it was released. Then, whenever the shield is equipped, load on the freeze, since you know that shield must be heavy!

Please don't rage on me, I read the other posts. I'm just curious about the possible effects of freeze upon wielding the shield.

Why not?

Yep, I want the block as high as possible too, the freeze and fire rate aren't really that important... If the damage is 3 and the block rate is 85%, with no damage reduction but occasionally blocking the total damage of the bullet (85% chance) I think it'll be okay again :)

The block doesn't even have to be that high. I was thinking 75-80% or less. Make the damage 4 per bullet so it's a total of 12 damage close range. (3 bullets total right?)

No, two.. I agree on 4 damage per bullet, with 85 % chance of blocking because the KSG only shoots two bullets. It won't be overpowered since the clip size is low and there will be a big freeze and a slow-down when firing, so it will be easy to walk around the KSG.

4/5 shots do no damage?
lolnope

You shoot about 30 shots in just 10 seconds, and as I said you can easily walk around the KSG so it wíll do damage. Plus, the damage is low so it won'd be overpowered. It has to be this high, it's a freaking riot shield, worth 75000. The price/ quality has to be balanced, and with 25 % blocking rate it is nót balanced.