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The Doctor 10-24-2012 11:30 PM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 219921)
great job, the first real tutorial for music! i might try that out when i got more time and have finished my stuff on iEra :)



my first thought has been: maths D:

Oh, no! Pi has been drawn out!

Talon 10-25-2012 08:00 AM

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Posted by Winter (Post 219917)
@Talon, nice avatar. :)

Thank you. Yes, she's pretty awesome.

Awesome possum.

PoeticFolly 10-27-2012 05:39 AM

Making another tutorial soon! Anyone have ideas on what I should do it on? I was thinking on doing it on LMMS itself. I'm open to ideas.

Forge 10-27-2012 05:49 AM

Wow this was amazing! Can you make a tutorial for sound making and recording?

The Doctor 10-27-2012 03:55 PM

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Posted by Forge (Post 221615)
Wow this was amazing! Can you make a tutorial for sound making and recording?

Easy. Just take a mic and record random noises and tune them.

Nivag pls 10-27-2012 06:31 PM

Made this tutorial just for your 100th rep, eh Poetic? :P Well anyways, great job.

Emera 10-27-2012 11:10 PM

This looks fantastic. Good job man.

VinkaEuropa 10-27-2012 11:57 PM

I've been a music producer for years myself, you put good efforts in but you have to realize it doesn't have to be applicable for every 'music maker'. Even the once considered 'best' DJ Tiesto isn't able to read one note of a sheet. You didn't even mention MIDI once as that goes to show how little you know.

(Although knowledge doesn't always equate good music, your talents and feelings will do most work no matter how little 'music theory' you know (contrary to popular belief)).

If you are really interested in making music, do your own research every day and don't rely on little tutorials like these.
Here are some basic terms which you'll come across:

-DAW (Digital Audio Workstation, basically your main software in which you can sequence your music. Be it with recorded audio/samples, or MIDI (Digital Instruments))
-VST (A smaller bit of software which can act as a plugin IN-to your DAW to act as an instrument, offering parameters to design your own unique synthetic sound. You can edit the MIDI which governs the notes played by either clicking on a keyroll in your DAW, or buying a MIDI keyboard.
-MIDI (THE technology for today's music. Most of what you hear on the music is digitally produced rather than being raw-ly recorded. MIDI is basically allowing you to record notes, including length and velocity. Which then gets sent to your VST to produce the actual sound)
-Audio Interface (Basically an external sound card, most internal sound cards in PCs are not built to handle all the processes done in your DAW, and audio interfaces will often have a jack plug(for guitars), and condensor microphone XLR plugs including phantom power (necessary to have, for quality recording).

It helps to use google. If you want to learn individual instruments, it's not necessary to know music theory. Just listen to other pieces of music and how it's played. You can either purchase the actual instrument(lol) to record in your microphone, or emulate them with a VST using your MIDI keyboard (decent ones are really cheap nowadays).

You're welcome and don't be overwhelmed by misguided individuals trying to teach you something which doesn't have to be relevant.

PoeticFolly 10-28-2012 11:34 AM

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Posted by VinkaEuropa (Post 222212)
-snip of something that I'm not sure you're trying to insult me or help me with-

Yes, I understand that I did not mention MIDI cable. I did this because, if you're first learning how to make music, you aren't going to go out and buy a midi cable. This tutorial turned more into, how to do the very basics of making music. I'm not going to go ahead and throw every single little thing that you can do to them just right off the bat. That's like teaching a new guitar player to teach "Through The Fire and Flames" it's best to go little by little.

TL;DR quit being so judgmental and assuming


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Posted by Emera (Post 222208)
This looks fantastic. Good job man.

Thanks!


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Posted by SylviaA (Post 222009)
Made this tutorial just for your 100th rep, eh Poetic? :P Well anyways, great job.

Actually, I had been meaning to do this for a while, just didn't have much motivation to take the time and write it. I also didn't get much rep from this. Thanks, though



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Posted by Forge (Post 221615)
Wow this was amazing! Can you make a tutorial for sound making and recording?

Use a mic.



I'm actually kind of thinking about posting my own music on here. Also, doing some of my real life music: guitar, piano, bass clarinet, a little bit of lute, mandolin, psaltery, and some cello. I'll need to work something up, though.

VinkaEuropa 10-28-2012 01:52 PM

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Posted by PoeticFolly (Post 222421)
Yes, I understand that I did not mention MIDI cable. I did this because, if you're first learning how to make music, you aren't going to go out and buy a midi cable. This tutorial turned more into, how to do the very basics of making music. I'm not going to go ahead and throw every single little thing that you can do to them just right off the bat. That's like teaching a new guitar player to teach "Through The Fire and Flames" it's best to go little by little.

TL;DR quit being so judgmental and assuming

First off, It wasn't my intention to judge you, rather, I want players who are genuinely interested in making music to be open to a wider view (and in my eyes, a less biased view).

Also - MIDI "cable", really? MIDI is a technology to operate/command instruments with and you just refer it to as 'MIDI cable'', which frankly isn't a necessity either because in this day and age MIDI information can go through USB cables aswell. Just goes to show how little you know.

Still not trying to insult you though, so just calmy take a seat and learn. Knowledge is gradually gained and not all at once.

You told them about BPM, that's good. But forcing them to set their signature and recommend them using sharp and flat notes is just plain stupid and totally optional. There are little to no rules when it comes to making music, period.

Also people choosing their own DAW to their own personal liking is best, rather than recommend a crappy freeware one. Just make a good list of the ones that are best. And we live in an internet age, do you really think ALL the people who use it have bought it? Nope. Anyways, here's my list of what I have preferred most and also happen to be the industries best at the moment:

-Ableton Live (great for workflow)
-Logic Pro
-Cubase
-Pro Tools
-Fruityloops (many people started out with this, one, including me. It's easier to learn for beginners using this, and it can still produce quality music.)


And on a last note:
It's not the software (nor the knowledge), but the musician with his talent and hard work that makes the greatest of music.

Winter 10-28-2012 02:59 PM

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Posted by VinkaEuropa (Post 222464)
-Ableton Live (great for workflow)
-Logic Pro
-Cubase
-Pro Tools
-Fruityloops (many people started out with this, one, including me. It's easier to learn for beginners using this, and it can still produce quality music.)

I can see you record, because those programs all support both MIDI and audio inputs. (Assuming Logic Pro is similar, I never was interested in it.) Personally, I prefer the new Cubase 6.5. It features audio quantize options in addition to the ever so popular MIDI quantize, and it really helps out when recording certain instruments via USB mic. Do you know if Pro Tools 10 has this ability or not?

PoeticFolly 12-05-2012 07:41 AM

Bump.

PoeticFolly 03-08-2013 09:40 AM

And another bump.

Fireenn 03-11-2013 06:13 AM

to be honest: this tutorial is great from my stand point (Being a musician), but it's a lot easier to make music when you can play any instrument. I believe the best way to start off is by playing the piano, though getting a private teacher could cost a couple hundred or so.

Even Digitally you still need a base of minor and major scales. Even having an absolute pitch type of hearing it would be hard to pull something off without having some basis of music.

Labyrinth 03-12-2013 02:16 AM

1. First of all, Stroseria was announced closed by MattKan, one of the server"a administrators.
2. All of your SFX paragraphs in your tutorial are completely correct.
I'm impressed. I know a lot about SFX since I've worked on several servers before as this staff position.


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