I believe there was an autoban in effect last year, since it can detect third-party programs. I'm not sure what you intend to dig at with your last statement, but most of the PC users know that cheatengine is an unfair advantage, and should honestly never be used. I'm not sure if you can stil call it unfair if we don't use the program, though...

Also, can iPhones still use iFile to warp via grab gani replacement like in 2011? That's unfair IMO.

No, there only is an autoban on PC Servers, for example UN will insta ban you for "using hacking tools", but this server will not. The RC will report speedhackers only, I think (don't qoute me on this), but anything else will not be detected.

And, oh with my last statement I wanted to add some satire. iPhone players can do alternative accounts, who cares? And so does Craig, already 3 alternative accounts, keep going man.

To your last statement, that's also invalid. If you alternate your gani-files, you'll be autobanned, it's easy to detect.

I don't even know why the conversation has changed to hacking. It has zero relevance to the argument because there is no one who is even regularly accused or even suspected of hacking in the spar community on iClassic. Let's not turn this into Unholy Nation, some of us left that server because of how dramatic and weird that community is.

I started doing that in response to multiple people doing the same to me when I am streaking in the main room and I've continued to do it because it's actually fun and convenient for me. It doesn't matter anyway, because I've been #1 on my main account on the FB leaderboard for about 90% of the new season. People literally change rooms and avoid me and it's often hard for me to get in multiple spars at a time on my main account.

Comyt probably does it for the same reason. Either PC or iDevice can idle up an alternate account so it's another issue that is moot in this conversation, anyone can do it. If alternate accounts were disabled, nothing would change really, you'd just see only one of us on the leaderboard, not five. It's fun to make the leaderboard my personal Enguard graffiti wall, anyway.

Aren't you this guy? Only pointing fingers because you chose to, I honestly don't even know you.

I think i've come to the realization theres no possible way for Ash Ketchum and GOAT to give up on this argument. They're just going to pull **** out of thier ass and pretend like they know something.

Like Thallen said earlier, the more we argue, the more we stoop down to their idiotic level.

That leaderboard is so stupid. People will create second accounts to take up space, stop sparring afraid to lose their place, drop majorly losing to someone on a second account, etc. I honestly don't know how people can stand it. I think it should honestly follow Gamecenters style of having of having wins or W/L ratio as the leaderboard so there's no more double accounts. Better yet, keep the old one and add it along with it.

As for the PC having advantages it does. Screen doesn't really matter anymore since iDevice's are granted the ability to zoom out. Controls though allow the player to perform actions an iDevice player cannot. According to the above posts the PC has also introduced controllers as sparring weapons. Although I can't prove the swords passing through PC sparrers without a video, I do believe they do. In fact, nothing is going to be proven until someone makes a video of gameplay where it happens. This has been another wonderful circle of PC argument that has gotten absolutely no where. This is just a complaining thread now.

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Also PC users come and PK and can do wall spar without a wall AND THEY RUN SO QUICKLY!

I agree for the most part and would be in support if the leaderboards and spar rating in general was changed to be restricted to a single account per IP, but that'll never happen for multiple reasons.

I don't think a wins leaderboard makes all that much sense for sparrers. It does for PKing, but the ratio makes a little more sense for sparring. Overall, the points system is the best way to reflect sparring ranks but could be improved in a few small ways. Even as it is right now, I think they usually reflect who the best sparrers are at any given time anyway.

I have yet to see a legitimate/proper explanation of why PC players have an advantage over iOS sparrers besides the ability to strafe. Everyone claims to have provided sufficient evidence, however they have been shut down every single time and continue to think they're right.

please, provide some valid arguments.

So it is unfair that PC users have access to cheatengine because they can use it to "speedhack"" (change values), although you admit that it automatically reports you for using it? Yes, that is what I meant by autoban, because you pretty much are found out, and have about a 100% chance of a ban. Also, there were players not to long ago that used cheatengine to give themselves tons of gralats, and they were found out almost instantaneously. The same occurred when people would warp with the glove gani.

We do have Graal Police, you know? If you think someone is unfair on any device, you have the power and responsibility to report them. There is no reason people like you should be complaining about cheating, hacking, or anything like this. Completely irrelevant.

To be honest, I have come across so many more players using third-party programs on PC servers than iClassic. You are incorrect: They are not caught and "insta banned". These type of "hacks" share similar properties with computer viruses, even regular viruses in real life.

Altering .gani files autobans now? Well, that's a step up then. Then again, that means you are altering your actual game files, not using a third-party program to change the values. Fairly easy script detection. In this case, it sounds like staff just took care of unfair iPhone activity before PC activity. (Wait... Weren't iPhones here years before computers? Fishy...)

I'm not sure... I've never done it, so I can't compare. :P

While a keyboard can perform actions an iPhone cannot, I do not believe (in my opinion) that it is all that necessary, and it does not provide the player with more speed. In fact, I feel slower when I strafe because I am fighting to move in either direction, so I move in neither. To me, the lack of this movement makes iPhone players seem much smoother than PC. Also, a video of gameplay only shows one screen, and one point of view. There are also technical flaws (was it meant to be that way?) in the way Graal is scripted that many PC players just so happen to have more experience with, due to their tendency to have much more experience on the game than many iPhone players.
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Someone should make a PC vs iPhone complaint thread, and all arguments would belong there... This is pretty pathetic that no real spar discussion can end in anything except conflicting opinions of an irrelevant topic. Don't reply to me, and don't reply to anyone else about the device "issues". This is not the place.

Ok ok, go on your iPhone or what ever you have and spar a really good PC user, take note of their speed, turns, how they move, sword hits and literally almost everything.

@Rezon

Still looking for an answer.

Within your own post lies the answer to this entire argument. And as for the rest of the crap, its all placebo and its a pride thing that makes you delusional.

Get comyt, he seems to have high hate against PC.

(Sorry if your wondering my posts are late the other post appears before mine)

Comyt doesn't whine anymore about PC, or less than he used to. He realized that the PC doesn't have any advantages, and it is just a different medium to play on. Comyt is probably the best iDevice sparrer, and can beat great ones on PC.

There you go.