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MrSimons 02-13-2013 05:54 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 297692)
I know you don't wanna hear it, but I used less colors haha
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ps76e410dd.png

If you are making things for graal, a black outline is always best. Gives it a pop
Also what I did was define a light source, I also made the eyes a focus point of the graphic by mixing light and dark shades together on the point of focus. Also with the lips, no one has a straight line of lips with one color, I included an upper and bottom, I also altered the shading in that reason to give a smear look.

Thanks, ill try and fix it up like you said tomorrow.

G Fatal 02-13-2013 08:41 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 297524)
First, I really recommend finding a way to save as PNG or GIF. JPEG ruins your image a lot.

With your hat, I kept the outline and did 2 different shading styles on it. It really depends on what you like more, or which is visually appealing. I recommend defining your light source first, then working on your shades from there.

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4de74940.png

Ah I see I'll try working on it and resubmit for hat shop when I/others like :) so I start with which direction light is first rather than otherway round

Latte 02-13-2013 04:55 PM

I like this thread idea, would give rep but must spread

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Posted by Kiko (Post 297507)
I don't like this at all
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I think your issue is that the tail is being used for standing support. The tail is used for balance, but the feet are the only thing on the ground, unless standing idle-ly. o: So I'd make the tail thicker, higher. Also I'd make the thighs thicker, those things provide some of the most weight to the dinosaur, visually.

Teeth/head shapes are good P: Arms need just a tad more shading. In general though, I think your colors are kind of shy of each other, like 'im light green, I can't be next 2 u dark green'. That's not necessarily true; using the different shades against each other are important when giving art a texture. Careful dithering will also make shade differences less harsh. I'd experiment a little bit with that; my take on it anyhow P:

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Posted by Yogy* (Post 297670)
This is a car I made in paint. This is my first time making a car so many shading and details are wrong. I am also not sure about the sizes of it (maybe its too big) so if anybody has a car template I would like to use it to fix the sizes of my car. Thnx.

I like your shading style so far, it's smooth, and I like how it curves around the car. I do think you need a brighter light source though; right now the the paint on the car looks dull. I make a little image to show you the color differences in actual cars; http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...psb5422455.png . Your style can work well with this, just add brighter highlights and keep to one light source.

Oh and lastly, to fix your pillowshading on the headlights, try making an outline of the detail inside a headlight, and add highlights/light source later.

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Posted by iHot (Post 297680)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73192858/ch...3-02-10%29.png
This is a chibi painting. I made it with Graphics Gale and spent about an hour on it. I still have a lot to do with it. Well I really want to add depth to my moon (the craters). I also want to make some nicer looking stars.

Adding small highlights to the stars will make it stand out more; also try making the sky darker around the stars, because the sky usually gets lighter the closer it is to the horizon. As for the craters, maybe pick a light source and put a highlight inside the edges on one side of each crater. If that doesn't work, try the outside of the crater edges.

G Fatal 02-13-2013 05:16 PM

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Posted by Kiwi (Post 297578)
Photobucket works well imo. Just upload, copy the code, paste.

on upload it only takes from camera roll as soon as image is png in app then goes into camera roll it becomes a jpeg :(

Latte 02-13-2013 06:55 PM

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Posted by Hayze (Post 297659)
my graphics xD

My fav is the flame <3 I just love the coloring on it. Jester already mentioned how the shape should be more frenzy-like though.

As for the bear, hmmm... I think you're using the light brown (#a07850) for too many things. Like, it's being used as part of the bear's tummy, as though it was sewn that way, but also for the highlights of the head and arms. At least, it looks like a highlight since a teddy bear isn't normally sewn that way. I can understand that you're probably going for less colors, but this one might need another highlight color to make it easier. All in all, I feel like there isn't enough distinction between what's a highlight and what's sewn on the bear.

And for the graphic in the middle o: What Jester said

V. 02-13-2013 07:45 PM

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I'm not so sure about the up/down views.
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Yogy* 02-14-2013 05:57 AM

too short. sides are great thou.

Hadi 02-14-2013 09:13 AM

I took my time with these edits just to show you guys what i mean, I'm sorry if you think im a little too harsh but i'm just being honest and trying to help you. I Hope you guys become great pixel artists in the long run and i know you guys can do it ;) Now i think ive helped everyone that hasnt been helped yet :P
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Posted by iHot (Post 297680)
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73192858/ch...3-02-10%29.png
This is a chibi painting. I made it with Graphics Gale and spent about an hour on it. I still have a lot to do with it. Well I really want to add depth to my moon (the craters). I also want to make some nicer looking stars.

Good stuff as usual ihot! I think you should try looking at perspective more and start to put it in your work, could look really good :) Right now the nose looks broken try making it face the way the perspective is in, looks heaps better. The hair should look like hair (texure), right now it looks like a swimming cap or something lel. In this edit i tried editing the moon a lil and your stars to show you a few pointers, Also the clothing could use some creases to make it more nomal looking. Heres what i think would look a little more appealing :)
http://i.imgur.com/Jgw8dsC.png

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Posted by V. (Post 297971)
I'm not so sure about the up/down views.
Attachment 9265

Well the top views look to small, maybe make them longer? and a little more contrast wouldn't hurt :)

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Posted by Hayze (Post 297659)
my graphics xD

Indeed this resembles delteria but the highlights seems to bright, Colors are well not a good mix up. I know you are using delterias pallette but those colors arent necessarily the best choice. I suggest making it more teddy bear-ish like. Try adding AA and use highlights more efficiently, Heres an edit to show you how i wouldve done it :)
http://i.imgur.com/X1mLHc4.png

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Posted by Gricey (Post 297505)
k ty for thread like this hopefully this works out and shows as png I can't seem to submit it on graalians any other way via ipad(pc's broke):(

Personally I think I just need help in mastering shading as I don't really know where to start from, anyways heres a rough hat I made for player hat shop in zone(sent before this) but also posted here more for help for me to progress because I really want to get more of my graphics on game and improve generally.

or maybe this way might not show as jpeg:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0a37ijwhiz...%2049%20PM.png

Contrast is the key my friend! As jester said you should define your lightsource, i think you really should it will help massively. I like the line art except for the part where the gold line is, it just has some jagged pixel there i suggest you fix that too haha. If your not sure on what i mean by contrast heres a small edit i did. (contrast is the difference between the colors) Well thats what i think it is lol :P http://i.imgur.com/ntp1g7B.png

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Posted by Kiko (Post 297507)
I don't like this at all
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Hmm i see why. First of all the line art is jagged you could make it less jaggy. Second off all its great seeing that you have distinguished a light source but you were using the shading in a wrong way. You are just shading it for the hell of it, it seems that way. Shading is made to show depth in a piece all you have done is gradient shade it. And finally again i would like to say that contrast is key! If you use that your art would be tops and you could have control over your artwork more. Lol your dino looks like the one from toy story <3.
Here is an edit i did with only 5 colors, I havent touched the line art just shading to show volume. (i couldnt be bothered doing the whole thing, sorry :P)
http://i.imgur.com/WABWMzx.png
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Posted by Yogy* (Post 297670)
This is a car I made in paint. This is my first time making a car so many shading and details are wrong. I am also not sure about the sizes of it (maybe its too big) so if anybody has a car template I would like to use it to fix the sizes of my car. Thnx.

I like the shape, really cool. You should try taking more control with your colors, Like i said contrast is key. try adding a logo on the car to make it look realistic and try doing what latte said i find it helpful. I think your a visual learner so i took my time to edit your car to show what i meant by contrast etc.
http://i.imgur.com/pSYC9fr.png

Zerith 02-14-2013 10:40 AM

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Posted by Hayze (Post 297723)
I'm gonna send the final version of the bear into deltaria as my application :) but, I used delt's color pallet for the brown color of the bear.. D:

Thanks for the advice! :)

I really think you should spend time making more creative edits rather than simple recoloring to my original. Have fun with it, add some claws, put an eyepatch on it or something. Add some "character" to it instead of just having a plain bear. I like that kind of stuff. :)

And don't feel ashamed that I pointed you out on this, trust me, it happens a lot. I find it rather flattering. But everyone starts somewhere, so do your best in adding some creativity to an otherwise boring piece of mine.

LavaClaw 02-14-2013 11:24 AM

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I don't like how the front turned out, it just looks a bit odd to me.
I really like the checker concept on this but i just couldn't seem to pull it off on this one D:

V. 02-14-2013 12:46 PM

It looks really good. I think the shape is fine. Try making the checkered lines closer, so there's more of a pattern? Good hat, though!

MonicaLewinsky 02-14-2013 01:12 PM

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Posted by Zerith (Post 298340)
I really think you should spend time making more creative edits rather than simple recoloring to my original. Have fun with it, add some claws, put an eyepatch on it or something. Add some "character" to it instead of just having a plain bear. I like that kind of stuff. :)

And don't feel ashamed that I pointed you out on this, trust me, it happens a lot. I find it rather flattering. But everyone starts somewhere, so do your best in adding some creativity to an otherwise boring piece of mine.

That's actually what I started it out on! I wasn't done, and I was gonna start out with that bear for size then keept changing things on it, but I decided to post it because of the opportunity. I will add some creative stuff, sorry for not asking. I will work on it. I was posting it on here to get some ideas about the shading on it.

99% 02-14-2013 03:40 PM

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Posted by V. (Post 297971)
I'm not so sure about the up/down views.
Attachment 9265

The up and down views are too small compared to the sizing you're trying to set on the sides. For that type of rifle, it should be longer.

Also to add some more realism...possibly de-flatten the back of the buttstock?

It might help to add a bit more shape rather than a straight line down.

G Fatal 02-14-2013 06:11 PM

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Posted by Hadi (Post 298318)
Contrast is the key my friend! As jester said you should define your lightsource, i think you really should it will help massively. I like the line art except for the part where the gold line is, it just has some jagged pixel there i suggest you fix that too haha. If your not sure on what i mean by contrast heres a small edit i did. (contrast is the difference between the colors) Well thats what i think it is lol :P http://i.imgur.com/ntp1g7B.png

Ah thank you, I'm really gnna try and start making hats more when I have time(around work etc) So thanks for the help/previews peeps of what you mean I really appreciate it :blush:

Edit: Finished Redoing it and resubmitted for Zone PlayerHatShop :)

Shiz 02-14-2013 06:17 PM

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Some old stuff I made.

Teach me <3


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