What is awful is just how fast players are able to find another way to glitch onto walls when you fix an old exploit. They're really friggin' dedicated. Of course it always comes back to 2-player mounts. While I can understand you can't anticipate the way players will use new content, this is something that truly should have been fixed before they were ever released. The way 2-player mounts are implemented literally allows you to put your passenger on walls with no effort. That is just an insanely silly oversight. The fact that the original method to glitch over walls was a simple as just getting OFF the horse shows just how poorly thought-out these mounts were.

when they were released, the first day there was zero restrictions at all, players could warp others into sparring rooms, get off facing the left side (as you stated) they'd warp forward into walls. plus the path following isn't great ether, you can easily 'flick' someone into a wall. On top of this, players could just get on there 2player mount, eat 5 bushes, and run out of there guild house, they'd warp threw levels like crazy. aka "map jump" just by exiting there house, i just wish it didn't take a couple of glitcher's to ruin 2player mounts in homes for everyone. :\ but at least now i understand why.

I plan to look further into the exploits and try to tackle them one by one, but for now it's just going to have to be this way. Hopefully it won't take long to fix them and reenable them back.

There is blame to put on players, they really do love to exploit these mounts(and I assume a good chunk bought 2-player mounts just to glitch), but 2-player mounts are probably the most nightmarish additions to the game. They should have been better implemented and scripted. All it's done is force the rest of the development team to sit and clean up the mess it has left.

This is seriously stupid. A normal horse has more benefits than a 2P horse now. Not to mention you're paying like 50-100k for a 2P mount while you can buy a normal horse for 2.5k or just get VIP. All of this because probably some arrogant prick thought it was funny to pretend to be an admin and glitch on a wall. Just to show his little p**** posse of friends who also think it's cool to ruin the game for everyone else.

Maybe they should just disable all horses for the time being and have them remade and tested and make sure when they're implemented back they work correctly. Because if what your saying is true about them having tons of glitches, then it must mean someone probably didn't spend a whole lot of time making them. All horses in general need to be buffed if you ask me.

Why not just start banning people for bug abuse again? It'd really trim down the exploits being discovered for 2p mounts.

i bought one, for two reasons, first off, after my 'year' ban, all my heads, horses, and a few items had been removed from my account, so i didn't have a horse, secondly, i had herd they're wonderful farming tools. so i had bought one as an investment, sadly now because of player's glitching fetish, i can't farm at the moment, if they had made a horse with extra blasts of fire, or a straight up farming tool. (e.x. a normal horse, or even a slowed horse with 5-more fire blasts, i would have gladly paid for that instead of a 2-player mount.) but, thanks to everyone who performed these glitches, my investment is a dead weight. although I'm more than sure, the development team can fix it, it may take a while. i also forgot what point i was trying to make here so I'm just going to finish it off with saying, I'm sad. TT_TT

2person mounts should be allowed, maybe just fix so you can't inv to mount when in house/gh?

It's kind of sad that these horse exploits are the reason the 40k PK room was closed forever. I enjoyed that level quite a lot. v.v

What if it just booted the rider every time you went through any type of warp? That sounds a lot simplier. Plus it'd be better for events so two people on a mount can't win at the same time unless they got there on their own.

Because there's no way to hook events in Graal, so there's no way to detect any type of warp(not to mention walking on the overworld is actually considering warping through various levels) BEFORE the player is warped; and doing these checks before the player warps is necessary. Also, booting a player from a horse is the problem. We need to deal with the issue BEFORE a player gets off of a horse.

There's a lot of different things that can be proposed to be done, and would probably work if Graal was a more organized game. It's not. Servers are basically hacked together by various people at various points in time. It's an absolute mess to go through the scripts.

Gah. >_< then that sucks. All of these nonsense because of one or two people trying to act cool by glitching onto a wall.

Why not just make it so that you can't invite anyone on your horse inside houses/GH?

Unfortunately, it was more than just one or two.. A lot more, in fact..

Would there be a possibility of turning the 2p mounts into a regular 1p mount? Just until you fix them?

That sounds like a good temporary solution. Maybe add an extra fire blast or two to them to compensate.