Graalians - Interesting Discovery

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NeoZX

09-03-2013 02:08 AM

This thread is not pointless.

Aaron

09-03-2013 02:26 AM

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Posted by Torah (Post 406368)

This thread is pretty pointless. Bye.

Hope you know how to unsub.

MattKan

09-03-2013 02:48 AM

best discovery since chris colombus

NeoZX

09-03-2013 03:04 AM

I do. ;P

5hift

09-03-2013 03:45 AM

This means I can get my life back! ... *starts playing graal again*

NeoZX

09-03-2013 04:00 AM

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Posted by 5hifter (Post 406417)

This means I can get my life back! ... *starts playing graal again*

Lmao.

Rexx	09-03-2013 04:52 AM

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Posted by Stocke (Post 406112)

*shrug* I copy pasta'd it anyways.

Hey, kids, if you're banned you can get a refund because you're being denied service for reasons not agreed to in a ToS.

That's better. Can't be having people citing an incorrect section of the terms and conditions. Thanks, Rufus.

What are you talking about?
You are not entitled to a refund after you have downloaded your purchase and you have received it. Bans or whatever have nothing to do with it.

Since Graal has no TOS you can assume either A) your download is non-refundable after purchase, although Apple's TOS protects you if you never received your purchase or B) Eurocenter refunds on a case by case basis.

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Posted by Yogurt (Post 406134)

Assuming this is the definition they are implying.

I open up Graal. Graal goes to ban screen. Failed delivery of my product.

Also, Graal Mobile Servers DO NOT have a terms of service, anywhere.

Actually no you have received the product, you successfully downloaded the app and installed it on your phone did you not?

Skill

09-03-2013 05:08 AM

Rufus is right. Let me break this down for you guys.

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The Application Provider, and its licensors, reserve the right to change, suspend, remove, or disable access to any Services at any time without notice.

A "ban" is a form of disabling access to the service. The "Service" provided is being able to log into Graal and play. They have the right to prevent you from doing so, without notice(they can ban you for anything without a warning, and do so immediately)

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In no event will the Application Provider be liable for the removal of or disabling of access to any such Services.

They aren't liable for banning you, if a stupid gp bans you for beating his friend in a spar or something Stefan/Unixmad aren't accountable for it.

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The Application Provider may also impose limits on the use of or access to certain Services, in any case and without notice or liability.

If they decide to change it so you only get spar 5 times day without buying spar tokens with real money or something stupid out of nowhere, you can't go and ask for a refund because they have the right to impose limits. You can't ask for a refund if you get muted/gagged or whatever either.

Yog	09-03-2013 06:24 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 406246)

Delivery = download. Failed delivery means the product failed to download after you purchased it(for whatever reason). Once the game is downloaded that part is no longer applicable.

Then shouldn't it say download, and not delivery? Unless they provide their definition of delivery, I'm assuming it's the definitions I can find with reliable sources.

MrSimons

09-03-2013 06:30 AM

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Posted by Sicx (Post 406298)

I'm going to be banned and get my 50$ back!

...

This is what one would call "not reading through the thread".

Dusty

09-03-2013 06:31 AM

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Posted by Yogurt (Post 406457)

Then shouldn't it say download, and not delivery? Unless they provide their definition of delivery, I'm assuming it's the definitions I can find with reliable sources.

Downloading is just a form of delivery:

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noun, plural de·liv·er·ies.
1. the carrying and turning over of letters, goods, etc., to a designated recipient or recipients.
2. a giving up or handing over; surrender.
3. the utterance or enunciation of words.
4. vocal and bodily behavior during the presentation of a speech: a speaker's fine delivery.
5. the act or manner of giving or sending forth: the pitcher's fine delivery of the ball.

First one could probably be applicable in this day and age(language does evolve). Even if it didn't, the 5th definition most definitely fits.

Anyways it's legal mumbo-jumbo, lawyers chose those words for a specific reason.

Shannon

09-03-2013 07:10 AM

I don't think hes saying it's RIGHT, hes saying it's happened. Argue definitions all you want.

iChronic

09-03-2013 08:11 AM

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Posted by Stocke (Post 406112)

*shrug* I copy pasta'd it anyways.

copy and pasta'd. lel. how do you even say that? pastad? pasta-d? past-ad? past'd?

edit:

"i pasta'd last night"

http://neverenoughthyme.files.wordpr...add_pasta1.jpg

Shannon

09-03-2013 08:17 AM

You're so funny.

iChronic

09-03-2013 09:47 AM

funnier than your display picture

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btw, i was mocking him. This thread is useless because clearly OP is just trying to start a commotion. iTune's ToS only applies to failed downloads. OP needs to stop finding faults where there is none.

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Posted by Stocke (Post 406092)

Section A of the iTunes Store Terms and Conditions:
"If a product becomes unavailable following a transaction but prior to download, your sole remedy is a refund.

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Posted by Stocke (Post 406112)

Hey kids,* if you're banned you can get a refund because you're being denied service for reasons not agreed to in a ToS.

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Posted by Dusty (Post 406246)

Once the game is downloaded that part is no longer applicable.

The latter quote pretty much explains it. I gag OP's 2nd comment, trying to incite that his claim is truly correct.

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