In my opinion, I say it depends on the player's skill or purpose.
BUT...to me, the M4 is the victor as it has an 8 damage base and a nice spread. Even if Cloyd ruined it and most of the older guns.

Yea it mainly is about skill, only thingi like about the M4 is the curve.

How exactly did I ruin it? I never buffed/nerfed any of the older guns, I wasn't allowed to. The changes made to the original guns on iEra were not done by me. All I did was raise the prices. Sue me.

He means the prices Cloyd.

Sounds like he was indicating more than just prices in that comment. So, I was just clearing the air here. But yeah, I had the prices of guns raised. Some people like it and others don't. I never expected everyone to agree with that in the first place. I can take the hits from the players who disagree. No problem.

My computer broke and between work and school, I have no time to get it fixed. Which explains my absence. Before my computer broke I made 2 guns and left a comment for snk, but I don't think they were released yet.

Yer, but Cloyd may I ask, why did you up the prices of the guns?

Because I wanted the prices of guns higher. Honestly, it's simple as that.

My mistake at the time when doing that was I released a line of "good" guns, like the Shipka, BAR, Luger, etc.. So, the prices were obviously high. I wouldn't like releasing good guns for dirt cheap. Everyone thought that the prices of future guns would be in that area. As you can see, that was false. Also, I come from PC Era and it was the same there (I don't know if it still is, I haven't played on PC in about a year now) as it is here. I was also Guns Admin there. Actually, iEra's prices are better than PC's from when I played there.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm all up for new jobs and improvements to existing jobs to make money quicker. By all means. I am pushing for that and also the whole pawn shop concept. I'm all for that to.

The thing that just makes me laugh is when people assume that the main reason I raised the prices of guns was to make people buy gralat packs. FALSE. I mean, seriously.. why would I do that especially when it doesn't benefit me at all? These are just the prices I see fit. Like I said, some agree and others dont. Just because some guns are priced high doesn't mean all guns will be like that.

Ok, fair enough, the rumours are cleared up ;)
Basically you wanted to balance the guns so by raising the prices of M4 AK, etc you can show that the guns behind or in front of it are worse or better.

like a boss

pepole use that "horrible accuracy" to kill a lot more people.

you used to be able to ge m4's free from killing crabs