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NeoZX 03-22-2014 04:50 AM
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Posted by GlazeyB (Post 461381)
Parody, very much legal.
Parody my ass.
I've seen sprites ripped.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 461542)
Lmao.

I'd bet money's that someday Stefan'll take money from the wrong people and either wind up dead in an alleyway or have the hell sue'd out of him.
yep...

Hadi 03-22-2014 06:44 AM
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Posted by Shadeh13 (Post 461487)
Duh. Everyone in the staff of every graal game, even the creator, well...Lets just say they are huge douches. Though I saw this coming. Stefan wants the money and ends up not doing anything. He just lazy bud, btw, he HATES losing his money so will just ban you so he doesn't have to hear it
lol you havent ever talked to stephan or see him post, ignorance isnt cool.

GlazeyB 03-22-2014 10:26 AM
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Posted by Hadi (Post 461595)
lol you havent ever talked to stephan or see him post, ignorance isnt cool.
ehhh, he's not wrong....

Ph8 03-22-2014 11:51 PM
You guys should really direct all of your pointless rage at Unixmad, not Stefan.

Also Stephan != Stefan.

Stephan is an arrogant and useless PWA.
Stefan is the guy you all talk about.

Nyte* 03-23-2014 12:52 AM
If it's linked to a credit card can't you chargeback?

Torankusu 03-23-2014 01:41 AM
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Posted by Nyte* (Post 461780)
If it's linked to a credit card can't you chargeback?
Yes, the problem is this:

Once he does that, it default bans his account (Even if it had previously paid-for-and-completely-unrelated-to-this-incident-GOLD access) labels it as fraudulent activity.

It is unlikely to get looked into, because, as I said, it DEFAULTS to Fraud.

doodleman171 03-23-2014 04:28 AM
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Posted by 5hift (Post 461542)
Lmao.

I'd bet money's that someday Stefan'll take money from the wrong people and either wind up dead in an alleyway or have the hell sue'd out of him.
They would be attacking the wrong person then. Stephane Portha (Unixmad) is the person you want. There was a page titled "Exposing Stephane Portha", but it was taken down.

DragonRider 03-23-2014 04:49 AM
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Posted by NeoZX (Post 461562)
Parody my ass.
I've seen sprites ripped.
Most of the Zelda-looking sprites I've seen are modified slightly so that they resemble Zelda but not enough to get them sued.

NeoZX 03-23-2014 05:59 AM
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Posted by DragonRider (Post 461827)
Most of the Zelda-looking sprites I've seen are modified slightly so that they resemble Zelda but not enough to get them sued.
Nintendo needs the money ATM, they'd sue for looking like Zelda.

Dusty 03-23-2014 06:18 AM
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Posted by NeoZX (Post 461835)
Nintendo needs the money ATM, they'd sue for looking like Zelda.
Ya, Nintendo is doing soooooo horribly.

NeoZX 03-23-2014 06:49 AM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 461838)
Ya, Nintendo is doing soooooo horribly.
They are.
Wii U is a little ahead the PS4, which has sold more in 4 months then the Wii u did in a year.

GlazeyB 03-23-2014 07:16 AM
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Posted by NeoZX (Post 461839)
They are.
Wii U is a little ahead the PS4, which has sold more in 4 months then the Wii u did in a year.
Forgot about the handleds.

Dusty 03-23-2014 09:05 AM
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Posted by NeoZX (Post 461839)
They are.
Wii U is a little ahead the PS4, which has sold more in 4 months then the Wii u did in a year.
Just because they're doing bad this gen with their console, doesn't mean they're hard for money. Gamecube did horrible as well, and it took a VERY long time for the PS3 to gain any sort of ground.

Nintendo can afford to make mistakes and still be very well off... especially since the Wii last generation sold so amazingly. Also, like was said above, they're still dominating the handheld market.

PoeticFolly 03-23-2014 10:15 AM
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Posted by NeoZX (Post 461839)
They are.
Wii U is a little ahead the PS4, which has sold more in 4 months then the Wii u did in a year.
Nintendo has more systems than just the Wii. They also own a whole entire baseball team, which if you ask me, they're doing pretty well.

Draco 03-23-2014 10:01 PM
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Posted by Nelm (Post 461329)
Short story:

Played Graal since 7th grade, be 27, have 'classic' account + active 'Gold' subscription. Decide to finally learn GS2 to become a more well-rounded developer - testbed server no longer exists...so drop $70 dollars on Developer Gold to hone skills.

Receive server, but get no RC access. NBD, send e-mail to [email protected], send PMs to Stefan and all PWAs. E-mail says 1-3 days...okay. Wait 3 days. Nothing. Be slightly irritated. Four days, slightly more irritated, debate requesting PayPal refund. Complain on official Graal forums, post gets deleted by former PWA turned forum mod who is apparently more active than current PWA. Ironic.

Five days, beyond irritated. E-mail Unixmad, telling him situation and requesting to be given RC access or a refund. Put in dispute (not even a claim for refund). Within hour, my server is removed and my account is banned for 'fraud'. Wow. Escalated PayPal dispute to claim.


TL;DR: Give Eurocenter $70 dollars, don't get product, ask for product or refund, get banned for 'fraud'. GG.
Man, your just having a rough time bro...


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