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Ivy 07-22-2014 12:10 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 491989)
oh man if zone had 100 hp then god damn i could really balance **** out. Because i agree with you actually, the whole .04 crap really doesn't make a huge difference, it only really makes a difference in the ease of the tap fire and how forgiving the gun will be if you goof up (or if it will even be able to tap fire)

also i think you and me are on the same page for the most part on why its going to ****. its making the same mistakes as era did, but zone can be fixed, gun wise at least since theres no huge price margin.



yes so what? In era i can walk in a base and get action very very fast and gang wars of 7v7s happen all the time, also waiting times on waiting for people to come to the base is small and theres lots of action. In zone i walk into a base and theres either no one there, or 18 people there all in the same squad. Action in bases is very slow and no fun waiting around waiting for attackers. No one will complain about getting action from other squads and actual competition

The gemeni challenges are fun lol

*Agent 07-22-2014 12:45 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 491874)
.2 is photon ROF meaning its fast, but its incredibly hard to shoot fast

I have photon you can tap fire really fast or slow at times. If you miss a rhythmic tap it's slow.

Cookie Xanadu 07-22-2014 01:50 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 491989)
also i think you and me are on the same page for the most part on why its going to ****. its making the same mistakes as era did, but zone can be fixed, gun wise at least since theres no huge price margin.

Meh. I don't care too much for their ******ed weaponry, gun ideas and such. Even though they're completely ignoring the weapons like magnums, mortars, chainsaw, etc.

What really gets me is all of this pointless and useless content they're adding that's not even Zone. It's everything BUT Zone.

Ghettoicedtea 07-22-2014 01:55 AM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 492072)
Meh. I don't care too much for their ******ed weaponry, gun ideas and such. Even though they're completely ignoring the weapons like magnums, mortars, chainsaw, etc.

What really gets me is all of this pointless and useless content they're adding that's not even Zone. It's everything BUT Zone.

it really doesnt match up with PC zone and the resemblence is at .5 maybe

kenthefruit 07-22-2014 02:01 AM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 492072)
It's everything BUT Zone.

What IS Zone?

MrSimons 07-22-2014 02:11 AM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 492072)
What really gets me is all of this pointless and useless content they're adding that's not even Zone. It's everything BUT Zone.

I'm sorry, but iZone is not going in the direction of the original PC Zone, we have no intent to either, and are currently focused on going a totally different path. You're just going to have to learn that this is a different Zone.

Ghettoicedtea 07-22-2014 02:21 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 492079)
I'm sorry, but iZone is not going in the direction of the original PC Zone, we have no intent to either, and are currently focused on going a totally different path. You're just going to have to learn that this is a different Zone.

then why is it called zone? The PC zone was great, ****, PC in general was from what i heard a blast until managment got greedy. Why not try to replicate the PC version instead of making this classic crap.

MrSimons 07-22-2014 03:21 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 492081)
then why is it called zone? The PC zone was great, ****, PC in general was from what i heard a blast until managment got greedy. Why not try to replicate the PC version instead of making this classic crap.

I hope you're not asking me.

Bleck3v3 07-22-2014 03:23 AM

I really cant understand your format for the 'Gun Balancing' can you put it in a easier to read format.

5hift 07-22-2014 03:32 AM

If it'll get him to stop posting these walls of texts, hire GIT for GA.

Honestly, I've never seen someone be so stubborn and dedicated as he is when it comes to an iOS MMORPG that a few people in the world know and care about.

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 492079)
I'm sorry, but iZone is not going in the direction of the original PC Zone, we have no intent to either, and are currently focused on going a totally different path. You're just going to have to learn that this is a different Zone.

Oh yes, GIT will fit right in when it comes to the stubborn part.

Tashkin 07-22-2014 03:39 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 491989)
oh man if zone had 100 hp then god damn i could really balance **** out. Because i agree with you actually, the whole .04 crap really doesn't make a huge difference, it only really makes a difference in the ease of the tap fire and how forgiving the gun will be if you goof up (or if it will even be able to tap fire)

If you can balance the guns for 100 hp then u can balance them for 50. Do your setup for 100 hp then half the stats or whatever. 50 hp and 100 hp doesn't make that much difference... 100 HP only allows for higher damage. So just lower the damage.

Ghettoicedtea 07-22-2014 06:03 AM

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Posted by Bleck3v3 (Post 492097)
I really cant understand your format for the 'Gun Balancing' can you put it in a easier to read format.

I could though just go make a spreadsheet on excel and post the stats on there for what the guns should be like. Ill get on that

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 492103)
If you can balance the guns for 100 hp then u can balance them for 50. Do your setup for 100 hp then half the stats or whatever. 50 hp and 100 hp doesn't make that much difference... 100 HP only allows for higher damage. So just lower the damage.

Higher damage outputs though allow more flexibility with higher damage meaning you can make a gun with higher price on it like a gun below it but with higher damage but still have the same t2ks. I get what your saying but i go into a different mentality for balancing when i hear 100hp.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 492099)

Honestly, I've never seen someone be so stubborn and dedicated as he is when it comes to an iOS MMORPG that a few people in the world know and care about.



Oh yes, GIT will fit right in when it comes to the stubborn part.

Thats because i see so much potental in graal and it would be a blast game of the year all year every year if done right. Era dun goofed it up. Zone is heading down the same path era did and Zone is slowly becoming popular. i do not want to see the same mistakes made twice.

Tashkin 07-22-2014 07:04 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 492141)
Higher damage outputs though allow more flexibility with higher damage meaning you can make a gun with higher price on it like a gun below it but with higher damage but still have the same t2ks. I get what your saying but i go into a different mentality for balancing when i hear 100hp.

It would be the same exact thing regardless. 100hp makes no difference at all. Price would still be high for weapons that are better.

XSTARX 07-22-2014 07:17 AM

The jobs do stink...a bit...

Wolfie 07-22-2014 09:10 AM

Please don't make Rippers in to a more op auto machine gun.


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