Again, I don't understand why you're narrowing this down to "new players." If your pessimistic example was the case, then why would that player remain in the guild? Why wouldn't they just leave?

I don't understand the notion of not being able to choose what happens to your guild when there is the option to freely choose what guild you want to join. You act as if they are being trapped or forced to do something. I don't follow that at all.

If the leader of the guild would like to disable guild chat, who are you to say that they shouldn't be able to? It's their guild.

You probably haven't played iClassic enough yet to fully understand the functionality and general nature of guilds on this server. There is supposed to be communication, but there's also supposed to be structure.

When you're leading a successful tower guild and you have players (who are very young and understandably immature) sending 30 messages a second and you're trying to coordinate the guild, the current solution is to kick him. Is that really better than taking away their permission to use guild chat? I don't see how.

"I have the option to leave your guild, but you shouldn't have the option to control and tweak your guild to your own liking."
IDK, I don't understand that thought process.

No, it'd be like this:
Livid: THALLEN PLS GIVE ME HAT
Livid: THALLEN PLS GIVE ME HAT
Livid: THALLEN PLS GIVE ME HAT
Livid: THALLEN PLS GIVE ME HAT
Livid: THALLEN PLS GIVE ME HAT
Thallen: Hey Livid, you're an active contributor to this guild, but sometimes you're annoying and making it hard for the guild to function when you spam guild chat. Could you please stop?
Livid: THALLEN PLS GIVE ME HAT
Livid: THALLEN PLS GIVE ME HAT
Livid: THALLEN PLS GIVE ME HAT
Thallen removes your guild chat permission

So, what's so bad about that?

I think youre using examples that can be dealt with through kicking someone, I mean if someone was going to spam you for the hat they'd probably do it in PMs to not look foolish in front of other guildies.

Perhaps permissions can be enabled that restricts usage of guild chat, e.g. players can only send a message every 2 minutes, but flat - out removing their ability to talk and communicate seems a little cruel lol

Yeah they enjoy towering so much that they're having so much fun they leave. Again, with guild towering you have to be able to communicate with everyone. In the case where no guild is attacking, what is someone with disabled chat going to do? The way I see it, they'll just end up spamming and asking you to allow them to talk in guild chat, and I think you're trying to avoid spam. Nobody is gonna ask for the hat in guild chat 15362782 times, they're going to PM you for the hat 15362782 times.

This is probably the worst idea I have heard in a long time. A guild is a social thing, and you shouldn't take that away from people just because you don't want to hear what they have to say.

i dont really think its about spam. Its more about taking this game to serious and feeling more important than one really is. Pretty much what you get with this change is you get to use poor noobs for your own purpose while not having to communicate with them. Some people feel theyre too important on this game to talk to newbies.

the sad part is that these kids are so desperate to fit in they would let someone do that to them just so they could be part of the guild.

a better option would be an option to ignore guild chat. if youre towering and know what you have to do there's no need for all the spam. It also works with other graal activities in which you want to have your tag on but dont want to hear all the spam.

Add ignore guild chat for an option. That sounds better.

Exactly this

Guilds really suck on iClassic.

Right now it's basically "join my guild so we can take the tower right now," rather than "join my guild and show some loyalty."

There have been talks of a "guild council" that would direct staff on where to head with guild-based updates. Let's just say that if Thallen is on it, the entire game is screwed.

How about they change it so that for the first 10 minutes of joining any new guild, you will not be considered a part of said guild in the event of towering. Meaning, the player would still be in the guild, but if that guild currently has control of a tower, he/she would not be considered a part of the guild as far as the game mechanics are concerned. So this player would not be able to help defend the flag, be immune to sword attacks from other guild members, or respawn in the flag room in the event of death. Just for the first 10 minutes.

That way guilds can't recruit random noobs to help them tower.

As far as the "disable guild chat" button goes, I could see it coming in handy for certain occasions, so why not.

Whats bad is that your asking for an option thats already there: Blocking, kicking, ignoring.

I second this

Its a great idea. Sometimes you didnt want to kick/block the person but just want him to shut up. And if you have a guild drama, that command is so useful to shut everyone up instead of simply kicking everyone which causes even more drama.

I agree. Completely. Guild chat should be a privilege, not a right.

And we could have global chat to serve whatever other potty mouthed fart jokes that the kids would otherwise post in guild chat.

Maybe a 5-10 second cool down between guild chat messages to reduce spam? I personally don't like this idea but I see it working for some people