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iMask 11-21-2014 08:25 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 518807)
It's less than thate, the times in the descriptions must be wrong because when using real clocks blueberries are closer to 15-20 minutes than 10. And my watermelons have been growing for almost 7 and a half hours (1 hour longer than it's suppose to) and it is only just past halfway. And waiting roughly 8-9 hours just to make a $16 profit is pretty ridiculous

This is getting fixed right now to match the times in the description.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-21-2014 08:28 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 518789)
Because you can't truly "fix" pricing until you actually see how things play out with an actual playerbase. Big companies like Blizzard can afford to hire people who specialize in economies and maths and such and can probably predict pretty reliably how jobs will play out with a playerbase... we can't. The best we can do is release, monitor, and tweak until it matches what we actually intended for it.

With farming it probably actually is possible to have calculated how much money people will make from them before releasing because they are all fixed variables. The other jobs like mining and collecting plants you can't calculate because it's random how many/how often people will find plants/rocks, it's random which item you will get and how much it is worth, and the times for collecting are all different, but with farming you just say ok lets make blueberries $10 and have them give you 10 berries with each berry worth 3 gralats. The time for growing them is 15 minutes so players can potentially make 120 gralats every hour- 40 gralats from rebuying seeds. 80 gralats an hour which I would actually say is a fair number. Done

Lafez 11-21-2014 08:43 PM

They nerved it because it where to easy to get money. Getting 3k per 10 min is way easy and when stuff cost like max 3k gralats you can get most of it! you should be glad that stuff is so cheap

iMask 11-21-2014 08:47 PM

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Posted by Lafez (Post 518813)
They nerved it because it where to easy to get money. Getting 3k per 10 min is way easy and when stuff cost like max 3k gralats you can get most of it! you should be glad that stuff is so cheap

That's why we should revert back to the original profit, and put a limit on how many farms you could have. This way, you can only make a maximum of x gralats per hour.

Ryjofa Rage* 11-21-2014 08:48 PM

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Posted by Lafez (Post 518813)
They nerved it because it where to easy to get money. Getting 3k per 10 min is way easy and when stuff cost like max 3k gralats you can get most of it! you should be glad that stuff is so cheap


Tf u smoking? The damn gardens cost 250$ and with this *** profit it'll take forever for someone who let's say bought 20 farms to make that back, it's impossible.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-21-2014 09:05 PM

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Posted by Lafez (Post 518813)
They nerved it because it where to easy to get money. Getting 3k per 10 min is way easy and when stuff cost like max 3k gralats you can get most of it! you should be glad that stuff is so cheap

I had 20 farms and only made 1k every 20mins -425 to rebuy seeds, the only people making 3k are people who bought gralat packed 20k worth of farms

Lafez 11-21-2014 09:16 PM

I have 48 farming plots and made 3k per 10 min if you seed blueberry it where op and stuff in ol west are cheap. Staff team did right too nerf it.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-21-2014 09:17 PM

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Posted by Lafez (Post 518827)
I have 48 farming plots and made 3k per 10 min if you seed blueberry it where op and stuff in ol west are cheap. Staff team did right too nerf it.

It is literally impossible to make 3k from only 48 farming plots and blueberries took 20mins not 10

48 plots- 14 berries, $4 per berry - $56 each plot
X 48 - $2688 gralats every 20mins - cost of buying berries
25x48= 1200
2688- 1200

1488 Gralats profit after 20minutes

Ryjofa Rage* 11-21-2014 09:25 PM

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Posted by Lafez (Post 518827)
I have 48 farming plots and made 3k per 10 min if you seed blueberry it where op and stuff in ol west are cheap. Staff team did right too nerf it.


Not everyone has 48 gardens.....

Nelo 11-21-2014 10:58 PM

Before setting final prices per x amount of time, please fix the times in description because they're all invalid

ToshiHiro* 11-22-2014 02:51 AM

actually the game is still in beta, so we have to accept what are the changes at the moment

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Posted by Nelo (Post 518847)
Before setting final prices per x amount of time, please fix the times in description because they're all invalid

descriptions does not affect the game, changing descriptions everytime nerfing will takes time.

XSTARX 11-22-2014 04:04 AM

Screw it, let's all leave the game.

MisaChan 11-22-2014 04:36 AM

Kill the manager :o

Herb* 11-23-2014 04:15 AM

Farming is more like a side chores and I can see why they would nerf the job. But at the current conditions, farming is probably rated as one of the slowest and worse paying job in Ol West at the moment. seeing as the selling price were decent to make enough gralats to survive, I bought 45 farms which is equivalent to 11,500 gralats. A day later I found out it was nerfed and of course I was very furious. But then again it's my fault for buying them and I should have known better that everything release will eventually be nerfed/altered.

Blueberries and carrots are two fastest growing crops, 10 minutes for Blueberries and 15 for carrots. I tested both and came to the conclusion: 45 blueberries seeds= 1125G, 1260G after selling it, 1260-1125=135 profit for every 15 minutes; 45 carrots seeds=900, after harvesting and selling the carrots the total was 1080 so you are only making $180 profit per 10 minutes with 45 farms. As you can see this is one of the worse paying job in Ol West. And collecting flowers or mining can easily double or even triple that in that amount of time.

I believe farming prices should be increased not neccessarily to its original price and have timer reduce. Otherwise I don't think anybody is going to farm and most people are starting to sell their garden. Farming is a cool/creative job, don't let it die.

I hope this helps!

ToshiHiro* 11-23-2014 07:41 AM

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Posted by Herb* (Post 519293)
Farming is more like a side chores and I can see why they would nerf the job. But at the current conditions, farming is probably rated as one of the slowest and worse paying job in Ol West at the moment. seeing as the selling price were decent to make enough gralats to survive, I bought 45 farms which is equivalent to 11,500 gralats. A day later I found out it was nerfed and of course I was very furious. But then again it's my fault for buying them and I should have known better that everything release will eventually be nerfed/altered.

Blueberries and carrots are two fastest growing crops, 10 minutes for Blueberries and 15 for carrots. I tested both and came to the conclusion: 45 blueberries seeds= 1125G, 1260G after selling it, 1260-1125=135 profit for every 15 minutes; 45 carrots seeds=900, after harvesting and selling the carrots the total was 1080 so you are only making $180 profit per 10 minutes with 45 farms. As you can see this is one of the worse paying job in Ol West. And collecting flowers or mining can easily double or even triple that in that amount of time.

I believe farming prices should be increased not neccessarily to its original price and have timer reduce. Otherwise I don't think anybody is going to farm and most people are starting to sell their garden. Farming is a cool/creative job, don't let it die.

I hope this helps!

I'm actually earning money just with farming, I don't even know how much profit I get, I only have 28 gardens and I get $84 profit every 10 minutes


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