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Fulgore 06-14-2015 01:14 AM

Where is LoL elo system adiams. Should be like LoL.

Red 06-14-2015 02:21 AM

I'm 9th on the board almost every season its so stupid how easy it is to get top 10.

Sardon 06-14-2015 02:28 AM

Comyt vs thallen fight
to 10

twilit 06-14-2015 06:11 AM

-not that my opinion matters here-
but changing it to just a win count daily/weekly/all-time would make you waste more life getting to the top of the board. As I understand it, under the current board, sparring people with a lot of points will get you to the top quicker than sparring noobs.

Changing it to a win count board would be no different than the PK boards-- a disgusting scoreboard that has no way of reflecting skill.

Albie 06-14-2015 10:41 AM

Quote:

Posted by twilit (Post 579563)
-not that my opinion matters here-
but changing it to just a win count daily/weekly/all-time would make you waste more life getting to the top of the board. As I understand it, under the current board, sparring people with a lot of points will get you to the top quicker than sparring noobs.

Changing it to a win count board would be no different than the PK boards-- a disgusting scoreboard that has no way of reflecting skill.

I completely agree, though don't you think it's nice to see who's worked their ass off for spar wins even if they're not good?
Or see spar legends that have quit the game?

Droid 06-14-2015 10:54 AM

I think dedication shows through more than skill, (e.g. Kaos who was -4000 or something and is now 17k-16.4k) and a total board would good, and would be great for personal targets.
  • The current board in a way shows skill, and completely punishes those who select spar as they will not gain points fast at all. Yet, like Sarah, you could beat 95% of people on the server so you are untouchable.
  • The old board has problems yet did prove activity because it depreciated after a few days of not sparring, so this would show activity.
  • I am in favor of this new idea. It would be great to see how many wins I get in a week, and would provide a good challenge to the super active sparrers. In hindsight, boosters would stand out like a sore thumb on the new boards because we'd all know they'd be gaining wins stupidly fast and we'd never see them in streak rooms.

Surely this new list, complete with an overall wins board, would bring back old sparrers with 20k wins so they keep sparring, and make it easy to see who needs a reward hat (when FP4 finally adds it) highlighting the fact it will inspire more people to spar.

Sarah_ 06-14-2015 11:21 AM

-Old spar leaderboard is a no comment to me as it was abused. But what I liked about it is that it was harder than this one to be on top, we could start from anytime after the start of the season and still be that. We also didn't see bad sparrers on top like the current one..

- The current one: yes it makes people spar more but you can only be on top if you started in the beginning of the season (for most of the sparrers),
Good sparrers can go on a really bad ratio account and spar you and you aren't getting the rating that you deserve to get, the best leaderboard imo would be
-A daily/weekly/all time one: it's the most logical one to have. Winning the spar and getting either a "win" or a "rating"(as in the current leaderboard) for it is the same thing so this will keep the activity in spar. It will be useless for people to go on alt so they don't get low rating since it will be a win for all, you get what I mean..
We can start anytime and be on top of the weekly or daily one. As for the all time leaderboard, do you have a problem with the PK one? I don't think so, so why not make the spar leaderboard the same thing?? It would be great to have a top 100 highest wins, why would you want to put bad sparrers or noobs on top of a spar leaderboard?. I had 0 spars when Shan had probably 50k wins so pretty much anyone can pass anyone if they want to.

Droid 06-14-2015 11:54 AM

Agree ^

Kuz 06-14-2015 12:01 PM

Loooool Sarah actually made a forum account this shows how seriously bad the spar system must be.

Add the thing when losing spars meant losing points. This leaderboard is about how often ppl spar not how good people are. Most people don't wanna spar for insane hours just to get more points. If you want an activity leaderboard create a separate one for that which also shows W and L. But for the main spar leaderboard make it skill based plz.

kenthefruit 06-14-2015 12:20 PM

just make the current leaderboard daily/weekly/seasonal and you've fixed your problem

Comyt 06-14-2015 03:31 PM

Quote:

Posted by twilit (Post 579563)
-not that my opinion matters here-
but changing it to just a win count daily/weekly/all-time would make you waste more life getting to the top of the board.

no.
this one: you have no life for 3 months.
wins per d/w/at: you can choose to have no life for a day or a week and take a break whenever you want without being punished and falling behind.

Kuz 06-14-2015 04:06 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 579718)
no.
this one: you have no life for 3 months.
wins per d/w/at: you can choose to have no life for a day or a week and take a break whenever you want without being punished and falling behind.

You kinda do fall behind because more people are sparring and getting more wins so they move up unless i'm not understanding the system that you are proposing correctly.

Zetectic 06-14-2015 04:11 PM

Quote:

Posted by twilit (Post 579563)
Changing it to a win count board would be no different than the PK boards-- a disgusting scoreboard that has no way of reflecting skill.

It shouldn't be based off of ur skill. should be based on ur dedication.

This is why I brought up the ladder system. If you want to reflect your skill you can use that.

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 579666)
It would be great to have a top 100 highest wins, why would you want to put bad sparrers or noobs on top of a spar leaderboard?. I had 0 spars when Shan had probably 50k wins so pretty much anyone can pass anyone if they want to.

lol damn yeah that was only 2 years ago.
i only want the d/w/t leaderboard bc of that. i wanna see all the top 100.
plus it will help detect boosters.

Comyt 06-14-2015 04:19 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 579727)
You kinda do fall behind because more people are sparring and getting more wins so they move up unless i'm not understanding the system that you are proposing correctly.

not really, this would be the same exact thing as the leaderboards for player kills and baddy kills. would be fun to set goals for yourself and you can stop sparring whenever you want to take a break and try to shoot for a high position when you are no longer tired for the next day or week. nobody is forcing you to spar every single week and place high, which is basically what the current leaderboard is doing.

Kuz 06-14-2015 04:41 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 579734)
not really, this would be the same exact thing as the leaderboards for player kills and baddy kills. would be fun to set goals for yourself and you can stop sparring whenever you want to take a break and try to shoot for a high position when you are no longer tired for the next day or week. nobody is forcing you to spar every single week and place high, which is basically what the current leaderboard is doing.

I don't get it because you can set goals with the current system e.g. "Okay today I will get 5k points" "Tomorow I will get 10k points" etc. It'll basically be the exact same effect just showing a different thing.


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