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Skyzer 12-23-2015 03:17 AM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 648545)
Can we resurrect adolf hitler so he can run with his brother?

First need to find Hitler's remains. :^)

Coco 12-23-2015 03:18 AM

I think I've said this in 2 other threads already heh heh...

If I could afford to leave the country, I would. I don't like where it's going and I don't believe it's ever going to change imo. So no I'm not satisfied with the US right now :(

Basically you have to be lucky to have a decent life here. Unless you have rich parents that pay for your college, you're screwed. Sure there's scholarships, but some of us aren't so great at getting those. It sucks that you basically have to have a degree to be able to get paid enough to live here. You can be extremely good at something that you taught yourself all on your own throughout years of practice and you wouldn't get squat for it since you don't have the degree to prove that you know what you'r doing. So you're choices are to either get a loan and be in debt the rest of your life, or struggle with bills and owning nice things due to the fact that you don't get paid enough because you don't have a degree. Either way, you're struggling unless you're just born into a rich family.

Not to mention if you get hurt somehow and your insurance doesn't cover something, the hospital bills put you in debt. You can never be too sure of something like that happening.

We have flawed systems that everyone thinks is normal and stuff we have to deal with forever, which we will because nothing will ever be done about it.

Skyzer 12-23-2015 03:21 AM

tbh I don't really care enough to be dissatisfied.

MrSimons 12-23-2015 04:44 AM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 648481)
BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOTING FOR HIM

No one has voted for him actually.

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 648506)
I don't feel safe in my own country. Sure, I'm white, and law abiding, but I'm also transgender, bisexual, and we've just barely gotten gay rights. And think of all the LGBT murders in the US alone. I can't feel safe being myself knowing that they're doing little to nothing to stop hate crimes here. What if a republican gets voted in? And all of us minorities get our rights taken away because of right wing views? I'm no Christian, I don't believe in god, I've already been kicked out of a Christian school because I'm transgender, and no republican will be on my side. How can I be happy with these things alone happening here.

Right now it is becoming increasingly unlikely for a republican to get elected, with the rising minority population in the US. Not only that but with the way things are going it is becoming less likely for you to lose rights, the president doesn't have nearly as much power as people make out. If someone like Trump got elected he would quickly realize he can't do any of the stuff he is talking so loudly about. If I were you I would worry more about who is representing you in congress.

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Posted by Coco (Post 648553)
Basically you have to be lucky to have a decent life here. Unless you have rich parents that pay for your college, you're screwed. Sure there's scholarships, but some of us aren't so great at getting those. It sucks that you basically have to have a degree to be able to get paid enough to live here. You can be extremely good at something that you taught yourself all on your own throughout years of practice and you wouldn't get squat for it since you don't have the degree to prove that you know what you'r doing. So you're choices are to either get a loan and be in debt the rest of your life, or struggle with bills and owning nice things due to the fact that you don't get paid enough because you don't have a degree. Either way, you're struggling unless you're just born into a rich family.

A few of my problems with this are

1. College isn't a right, you don't need to go and you can do well without going. My high school had mandatory senior advisement classes that taught kids about opportunities outside of University, which I think all public schools should be doing.

2. "Sure there's scholarships, but some of us aren't so great at getting those.", coming from someone who probably spent most of their highschool career working for an online game and making art, that isn't really surprising. Not judging or anything, because your work obviously paid off in that respect, but if you are focussing on working towards scholarships, you're probably gonna end up with them.

Other than that I totally agree with you.

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Posted by Coco (Post 648553)
Not to mention if you get hurt somehow and your insurance doesn't cover something, the hospital bills put you in debt. You can never be too sure of something like that happening.

I tried explaining this to my dad when I went to see him for Thanksgiving and it drives me insane that he couldn't understand this. Can't understand how wanting to be able to go to the doctor without suffering crippling debt is some form of laziness or entitlement.

Elk 12-23-2015 05:12 AM

Hello im 50% Atlantian and 50% Lemurian, what can i say!

Zetectic 12-23-2015 05:40 AM

very dissatisfied. i want to compare US to South Korea, cause that's what I know.
  • South Korea is 10x better place to live in if you are asian and citizen of SK.
  • if u are a male in SK u gotta serve in the army for 2 years when u turn 18.
  • it's hard to do whatever u want in there since everyone is heavily influenced by anything and they forces u to become something they want and if u wanna be 'accepted' in the society, u gotta at least undergraduate a college. if u are like high school drop out they consider u as a peasant.
  • they give you free education to HS. free citizen health care, very low medicine fees or hospital fees. low taxes. things like houses (cus country is small), cars and meat(any type) are expensive though.
  • aside of reality, there's a lot of entertaining places-, no need for cars every store you will ever need is in an mile range, cheap chinese stuff, all kinds of foods u can never taste in America, lines and lines of apartments in the city.

whatever bs that america is going through.
  • US taxes are outrageous, living is pretty difficult for middle class to survive.
  • a lot of things are messed up. cops, racism etc these are something u can't experience in SK[1].
  • rich people in US are insanely rich, a girl in my class, their parent owns a gigantic golf club and it's not only her, some kids already drive mercedes, audi and crap. they are mostly sons and daughters of some middle to giant corps.
  • then we drive 40 min to the south, there's the bronx. where ppl pay fake bills all the time, gun shooting almost every week, drugs everywhere, a lot of illegal immigrants and all low paying jobs. the gaps between rich and poor is crazy.
  • aside of reality, in term of size, this country is freaking massive u defo need a car, arts and stuff are very creative and crazy. very different from SK. enormous houses and yards. i mean goddamn why even go outside...
[1] in SK, cops don't have a gun and mostly middle aged men. racism doesn't exist, but they discriminate depends on ur physical appearance/beauty.(90%)
[2] both countries have huge politic corruptions and internal government flaws.
[3] SK is constantly dealing problems with Japan, NK and China. Mostly with Sea borderlines.

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Posted by Ivy (Post 648476)
I am middle class

I call this BS.

Skill 12-23-2015 05:54 AM

Good enough.

America has it's share of problems, but nothings perfect. It's good enough for me.

MrSimons 12-23-2015 05:59 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 648616)
[1] in SK, cops don't have a gun

cops not carrying proves to be very effective.

Fysez 12-23-2015 07:48 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 648623)

Damn

Coco 12-23-2015 07:53 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 648585)
1. College isn't a right, you don't need to go and you can do well without going. My high school had mandatory senior advisement classes that taught kids about opportunities outside of University, which I think all public schools should be doing.

I wish I had that class. Sure college isn't a right, but they sure make it hard to make a living without it.

Latte 12-23-2015 08:15 AM

I'm pretty satisfied. Sure, our political system is a mess... I disagree with the party system, and I disagree with corporations funding politics. And even when I compare the US to other places in the world, the US is definitely behind in some areas.

For example, we need better systems for healthcare and education-- but nobody wants to fund it with higher taxes, or a different government budget. Not only can nobody agree on anything, but no definitive action is being taken. There has been extra money going into education lately, but it didn't improve teacher salaries very much, which is one of the huge concerns for American education. Thus, the money has been going into temporary things, like technology.

America hasn't taken many firm stances lately. Donald Trump is the opposite, which is why people want him. He is confident about what he wants to do. American politics lacks that confidence. I'm afraid that Trump will win because of our political climate. He is literally the embodiment of my political nightmare.

Even then, I'm fine with the US. Our country has been through a lot. Trump is the least of the obstacles we've encountered. I think the upcoming election will be especially crutial to American politics (with the delicate turning point we're in), but it won't destroy our central beliefs either way. Trump would just get himself impeached if he tried to do something outrageous.

Skill 12-23-2015 08:31 AM

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Posted by Latte (Post 648657)
There has been extra money going into education lately, but it didn't improve teacher salaries very much, which is one of the huge concerns for American education.

Teachers get paid far more than enough. The job market for teachers is far too competitive as is, its very difficult to find a job as one. We have no shortage of teachers, raising their pay would result in an even worse surplus of teachers due to making it a more desirable job market to pursue.

Too high of a salary will actually make the quality of teachers WORSE, because you'll have people taking on the job because it pays well rather than because they like teaching children. By making it a decent wage, but not high, the people that become teachers do it because they are passionate about it, not because they're chasing the highest paying job market.

Also, teachers get far better benefits than most full time employees in the form of pensions and whatnot. The problem with a lot of people is that when they look at employee compensation, all they look at is the raw cash salary, but they don't look at other things like quality of insurance, matching a 401k, etc.


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Posted by Latte (Post 648657)
Trump would just get himself impeached if he tried to do something outrageous.


You can only be impeached if you break the law or lie under oath. Just because he does something you or even most people disagree with doesn't mean he could be impeached.

kenthefruit 12-23-2015 10:15 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 648659)
You can only be impeached if you break the law or lie under oath. Just because he does something you or even most people disagree with doesn't mean he could be impeached.

http://www.heritage.org/constitution...or-impeachment

Basically it's very controversial what can be considered an impeachable act. If the president does something "bad" and a majority vote of the House of Representatives is brought to impeach them, then the action is called upon the Senate. If two thirds of the Senate votes to impeach him, then that's that.

some ideas of impeachable acts:

"high Crimes and Misdemeanors;
treason and bribery
other criminal or even noncriminal behavior amounting to a serious dereliction of duty"

Mio 12-23-2015 10:28 AM

Im not satisfied.

Mixed, Lesbian, High Class, Atheist female. thx.

Crono 12-23-2015 10:36 AM

if you have money america is the ****ing ****. jackpot would be if you find a place that doesn't whip their IT crew like slaves.


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