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BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-19-2017 02:24 PM

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Posted by John (Post 801531)
Loving this game rn :3

pls don't encourage others to buy it. I think the game itself is good but at the end of the day, even with all the upset people if the game sells well companies will consider the business model a success and every game will be a service rather than a product.

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Posted by Rusix (Post 801415)
Does it seriously cost 2100 dollars to unlock everything? Speak about them bread getting skills let's get UNIX in here to have the new Star Wars game show them how it's done

could cost more depending on your luck.

MrSimons 11-19-2017 09:28 PM

Didn't EA remove all the P2W stuff?

Crono 11-19-2017 09:51 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 801702)
Didn't EA remove all the P2W stuff?

temporarily to save face

5hift 11-19-2017 10:25 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 801702)
Didn't EA remove all the P2W stuff?

Still doesn't remove the fact that you're going to be grinding your ass off for just one character.

EA is in full damage-control mode right now. Anything they do isn't for the benefit of the player, its for the benefit of themselves.

MrSimons 11-20-2017 01:17 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 801705)
Still doesn't remove the fact that you're going to be grinding your ass off for just one character.

EA is in full damage-control mode right now. Anything they do isn't for the benefit of the player, its for the benefit of themselves.

Not totally sure what you are talking about-- not trying to defend EA cause they are ****; but it really isn't that hard to unlock heroes, plus the game comes with a few already so I don't see what the problem is?

5hift 11-20-2017 02:08 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 801710)
Not totally sure what you are talking about-- not trying to defend EA cause they are ****; but it really isn't that hard to unlock heroes, plus the game comes with a few already so I don't see what the problem is?

Some people already did the calculations saying that it would take an absurd amount of grinding to get certain characters.

EA did reduce the cost of unlocking characters but failed to mention that they also reduced the rewards of the game. So basically they didn't change jack ****.

Just because EA removed the microtransactions doesn't mean progression still isn't locked behind a BS RNG lootbox system.

MrSimons 11-20-2017 03:14 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 801716)
Some people already did the calculations saying that it would take an absurd amount of grinding to get certain characters.

EA did reduce the cost of unlocking characters but failed to mention that they also reduced the rewards of the game. So basically they didn't change jack ****.

Just because EA removed the microtransactions doesn't mean progression still isn't locked behind a BS RNG lootbox system.

So far I have only unlocked Luke; which honestly didn't take long considering how ****ty I am. So unless it legit takes like 2 months of playing everyday then I can't imagine it being that terrible

maximus_asinus 11-20-2017 04:22 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 801716)
Some people already did the calculations saying that it would take an absurd amount of grinding to get certain characters.

EA did reduce the cost of unlocking characters but failed to mention that they also reduced the rewards of the game. So basically they didn't change jack ****.

Just because EA removed the microtransactions doesn't mean progression still isn't locked behind a BS RNG lootbox system.

Something like 4000+ hours or $2100 or something like that. It took me 15 years to get that many hours on Classic.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-20-2017 01:47 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 801723)
So far I have only unlocked Luke; which honestly didn't take long considering how ****ty I am. So unless it legit takes like 2 months of playing everyday then I can't imagine it being that terrible

The Heroes were only half the problem. The starcards themselves were the P2W element people are complaining about. Whilst they aren't going to make a bad player good, they'll make good players basically unstoppable as they're just flat out upgrades from the default cards.

People were complaining about the heroes as it was just widely unethical to advertise luke/ vader in their trailers, and the fact that they're probably the most iconic characters available to then have them locked behind a massive barrier. Yea you probably unlocked Luke because of the challenge credits/ campaign bonus, but now that you don't have those to give you extra credits anymore you're going to be looking at like 30+ hours to get Vader. Your skill level doesn't even matter as all players currently have roughly the same credit earn rate. Skill only counts for how fast you finish the challenges.


Like I said earlier, and the reason many people are unhappy- it's not actually the game itself (SWBF2) that is the issue, it is the trend of ingame advantages, a full price game containing f2p microtransation systems. EA has ownership over so many game franchises, if SWBF 2 is a success then you can say goodbye to singleplayer games from any companies under EA, and hello to all games following a micotransaction system like their FIFA games. They literally made a statement saying they want to try and find the same microtransaction success their sport games get in their FPS games. EA cancelled a singleplayer Starwars game because it wasn't going to contain microtransactions and then closed the studio making it.

It might not be as bad in SWBF2 as this is a test, but if you just accept it and say it's not that bad, then when SWBF 3 comes out instead of there being multiple classes/ characters, they'll probably make you have to 'earn' them from lootboxes aswell. This won't just be for EA games either, other companies will look at how much money EA is making and do the exact same thing. The whole reason we even have this lootbox **** is because of people accepting them when they were first introduced a few years back when they weren't as intrusive, and have progressively gotten worse. All lootboxes do, is hurt YOU the consumer, by locking away content behind a paywall. You can say the game itself is good, but you should never accept the lootbox/ microtransactions implementation no matter how minor it is, or if it doesn't effect you because eventually it will.

Eugeen 11-20-2017 02:05 PM

Rumors say that EA stopped the microtransactions for now because Disney might have gotten a bit mad about them hurting the starwars title

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-20-2017 02:52 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 801777)
Rumors say that EA stopped the microtransactions for now because Disney might have gotten a bit mad about them hurting the starwars title

That's literally the exact reason. Go to Disneys twitter and look at any of their posts from when the SWBF2 drama was going down and it's just people commenting to fix the problem.

Disney 100% would have threatened EA with revoking their starwars licensing if they didn't find a fix as aside from the bad image it gives Disney (who care a LOT about their reputation) it could also impact the sales from the new starwars movie. Unlikely but still.

I heard that the day before they made the change, the head EA guy got a phone call from Disney to talk about SWBF2.

What will likely happen is either
#1- they will actually make changes and make lootboxes cosmetic only
#2- they can fall back on the ambiguity of their announcement (not specifically stating what they'd change so they can't be held accountable) and just make minor changes like slightly reduce the p2w factor of the game, and re introduce the microtransactions at a later date when the drama has died down and they've reached their expected sales figures.

Hope #2 won't be the case, and there is a chance it won't be due to how important starwars is, but then again there is a reason EA has been voted the worlds worst corporation before

Vulcan Blaze 11-20-2017 03:03 PM

Anyone play this game on PC (Origin)? I need friends to play with :(

Sir Travis 11-28-2017 02:50 PM

They killed Simcity..... I can never forgive that.....

Ethacon 11-28-2017 03:56 PM

EA stands for Epic Assholes or Extra Autistic.

idk any other ideas?

Coco 11-28-2017 07:56 PM

I only really care about Sims and didn't they kinda butcher that in Sims 4? Pretty sure I vaguely remember a lot of disappointing stuff about Sims 4....but I also haven't touched it since it came out so I guess it could've change since then.

Nonetheless glad I can do my part in boycotting buying anything from EA since I haven't purchased anything since Sims 4 cause I literally don't care about anything else from EA except Sims... *cough*


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