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Bryan* 05-24-2018 11:29 AM

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Posted by Meteor (Post 812418)
16,000 kills in 9,000 hours of playtime btw

That’s very little

Master Shredder 05-24-2018 03:11 PM

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Posted by Strap (Post 812432)
If I'm a PKer whos not necessarily trying to take over the tower, how would it be effective for me to use that strat? It wouldn't be. It only disrupts gameplay imo.

Game play cannot be disrupted by its own game mechanics, that is not logical nor does it make any sense. The strategy would be effective for clearing narrow paths/breaking sword walls. I apologize that the staff have forced you into the towers though so whatever.

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 812441)
Sure thing bud. Spar and pk is for people who lack creativity and want to take out their rage. I'm more interested in the construction of interesting structures using the objects available for purchase and grinding cash to make that possible. If there was money in pk (or spar) I would be in there like a bad smell.

There is money. You get free bombs and arrows for farming ;)

Raeven 05-24-2018 04:38 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 812441)
Sure thing bud. Spar and pk is for people who lack creativity and want to take out their rage. .

?????
Just because I enjoy and find amusement in pking rather than creating house designs , afking and doing nothing but spam enter house. does that automatically make me a less creative person? i did not play graal to build houses though lol

4-Lom 05-24-2018 05:06 PM

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Posted by Raeven (Post 812461)
?????
Just because I enjoy and find amusement in pking rather than creating house designs , afking and doing nothing but spam enter house. does that automatically make me a less creative person? i did not play graal to build houses though lol

Clearly you're doing it wrong, then because that's the way I prefer to play it and everyone else's methods must adhere to mine or they're not as good :D

( Chill, fam...I was being sarcastic because that other guy was trying to act like my pks somehow mattered in relation to my opinion on whether or not lanterns should do 1 hp damage or be allowed in towers)

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 812459)

There is money. You get free bombs and arrows for farming ;)

Yep. There was a period of about a month where my guild actively pk'd players coming out of pyrat cave specifically just because they had 99 bombs and generally low hp.

Then the area was suddenly a non pk zone and looting went back to being more lucrative.

Vladamir Blackthorne 05-25-2018 11:05 AM

Can't wait until hammers and boomerangs are available outside of FFA events. People will whine up a storm cause they don't want to go do quests for weapons lol

Meteor 05-25-2018 07:19 PM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 812459)
Game play cannot be disrupted by its own game mechanics, that is not logical nor does it make any sense.

Why is there an in game bannable offence called 'game disruption'?

Master Shredder 05-29-2018 06:40 PM

Game Disruption
 
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Posted by Meteor (Post 812494)
Why is there an in game bannable offence called 'game disruption'?

Um lagging is game disruption lmfao. intense laggers like Jessie have been banned for terrible Wi-Fi connections while towering. Go take destiny from some Brazilians or other foreigners of the United States or something whatever and have your members report anyone extremely lagging. They will be warped or banned for game disruption.

Forced Lag can be pinned as hacking or game disruption. Its based on the acting staff members judgement.

using a glitch to gain pks like the one in mod tower is also game disruption. Anyways you're welcome.

using cheat engine or vpning to lag block the mod stairs or paths in towers is also Game Disruption.
Need I explain more "Real" ways of "Game Disruption" to you meteor that literally have no connection with actual mechanics?

Rusix 05-29-2018 11:04 PM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 812719)
Um lagging is game disruption lmfao. intense laggers like Jessie have been banned for terrible Wi-Fi connections while towering. Go take destiny from some Brazilians or other foreigners of the United States or something whatever and have your members report anyone extremely lagging. They will be warped or banned for game disruption.

Forced Lag can be pinned as hacking or game disruption. Its based on the acting staff members judgement.

using a glitch to gain pks like the one in mod tower is also game disruption. Anyways you're welcome.

using cheat engine or vpning to lag block the mod stairs or paths in towers is also Game Disruption.
Need I explain more "Real" ways of "Game Disruption" to you meteor that literally have no connection with actual mechanics?

I'm pretty sure if you're banned while lagging it was just a mistake. Unless you purposely do it in a way like cut your connection off at tower stairs so no one can go through which will keep your character there so no one can pass. Or if you VPN and admins see your IP is linked to a VPN. I've been delaying for like 4 years now on graal since where I live is crap. Never been banned doing a competitive activity. If you delay or lag naturally without 3rd party devices or without anything to force it you'll generally be ok

Master Shredder 05-30-2018 08:07 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 812733)
I'm pretty sure if you're banned while lagging it was just a mistake. Unless you purposely do it in a way like cut your connection off at tower stairs so no one can go through which will keep your character there so no one can pass. Or if you VPN and admins see your IP is linked to a VPN. I've been delaying for like 4 years now on graal since where I live is crap. Never been banned doing a competitive activity. If you delay or lag naturally without 3rd party devices or without anything to force it you'll generally be ok

*facepalm* Don't quote me unless you read the whole post and understand it. I'm waiting for meteors reply not yours just so you can use that lol. ok thanks. because I'm not typing a paragraphs for you Rudi

anyways. it's not a mistake. it truly is game disruptio. Also I did say if you're using it to block stairs with forced lag. If over 20 people report intense laggers staff take action. Anyways don't bother arguing thanks.

Meteor 06-01-2018 02:07 AM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 812764)
I'm waiting for meteors reply

You're right, abusing lag and glitches is considered game disruption, but so are a lot of other things. Here's the in-game definition of disruption found inside the Info Kiosk,

"Interfering with the various events going on in-game. This takes many forms. It can include impersonating staff, intentionally abusing lag, spamming reports, or abusing glitches".

An example which doesn't involve lag would be if a player manged to wedge themself in the entrance to swamp tower and spam their sword outward. Another example would maybe be someone who repeatedly queues up in spar and just runs away until the spar times out, at least in my opinion.

Rusix 06-01-2018 03:23 AM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 812764)
*facepalm* Don't quote me unless you read the whole post and understand it. I'm waiting for meteors reply not yours just so you can use that lol. ok thanks. because I'm not typing a paragraphs for you Rudi

anyways. it's not a mistake. it truly is game disruptio. Also I did say if you're using it to block stairs with forced lag. If over 20 people report intense laggers staff take action. Anyways don't bother arguing thanks.

It's not really disruptive, And you shouldn't be banned for it, Unless it's forced. Because you can't really punish and ban players just because of their connection. And mostly. It's actually just a really dumb thing to do because players could literally just get their enemies IP which is super easy to do especially on PC, And DDOS their IP for a few seconds s they lag heavily and then tell an admin and they would be banned. Do you not see how seriously flawed that system would be? You may as well give everyone ban powers.

Master Shredder 06-01-2018 04:18 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 812926)
It's not really disruptive, And you shouldn't be banned for it, Unless it's forced. Because you can't really punish and ban players just because of their connection. And mostly. It's actually just a really dumb thing to do because players could literally just get their enemies IP which is super easy to do especially on PC, And DDOS their IP for a few seconds s they lag heavily and then tell an admin and they would be banned. Do you not see how seriously flawed that system would be? You may as well give everyone ban powers.

I code android apps, I dont even know how to DDOS an IP or get it. And it obviously does not matter. Meteor got the explanation he needed to read since he apparently would like to call arrows and bombs Game play disruption. kek.

It's part of the game play.

Rusix 06-01-2018 06:27 PM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 812967)
I code android apps, I dont even know how to DDOS an IP or get it. And it obviously does not matter. Meteor got the explanation he needed to read since he apparently would like to call arrows and bombs Game play disruption. kek.

It's part of the game play.

DDOSing is easy, I used to get a lot of complaints about possible DDOS situations when I worked as a CTA, There is even an app on Google play where you could DDOS someone. I won't go into getting someone's IP though, but it is easy.


Let's be honest, Anyone like meteor who compares Spar to towering and considers bombs and arrows game disruption shouldn't be taken seriously, Since I don't see how you legitimately can compare two completely different activities and say one is causing game disruption because they use the games own mechanics made for that activity, That's like saying it's wrong for Astronauts to have space ships because people who play tennis don't use them.

Master Shredder 06-01-2018 06:55 PM

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Posted by Meteor (Post 812922)
You're right, abusing lag and glitches is considered game disruption, but so are a lot of other things. Here's the in-game definition of disruption found inside the Info Kiosk,

"Interfering with the various events going on in-game. This takes many forms. It can include impersonating staff, intentionally abusing lag, spamming reports, or abusing glitches".

An example which doesn't involve lag would be if a player manged to wedge themself in the entrance to swamp tower and spam their sword outward. Another example would maybe be someone who repeatedly queues up in spar and just runs away until the spar times out, at least in my opinion.

Please refer to this thread https://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40482 it will answer and explain the differences of the activities you have compared. Hope it helps

kek

Meteor 06-01-2018 10:01 PM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 812984)
Please refer to this thread https://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40482 it will answer and explain the differences of the activities you have compared. Hope it helps

kek

stop saying kek outside of 4chan


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