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HappyCat123 07-10-2012 12:37 AM

To read online forums.

Yephenpeace 07-10-2012 12:45 AM

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Posted by *FaZ3 (Post 158506)
If any of you have had the experience of smoking marijuana you would know what the purpose of life is. Nuff said.

I don't think people need substances to be happy.

Remorse 07-10-2012 12:52 AM

to gather all the dragonballs

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 12:56 AM

Well, why would there be a purpose to life? I'm talking about a rational, defined purpose. That's basically saying everything is pre-determined. Were all dead men/women walking and theoretically there is no scientific point to anything unless you believe in fate- whatever. Essentially, in my view, the entire universe begins and ends through your own eyes. This is everything, its your one shot to help advance human society in its quest to grow and dominate the universe.

But what is the point of the advancement of human kind? Well, conquering death is one thing, so is answering all of those great questions, but that's not really answering this question. Sooner or later we will all die no matter what tools we use. Someday all the questions will be answered. So there isn't really an answer to this question. Its just what we are given with. But as long as you have the want to live, you inherently want to help this cause to further advance society since you obviously care about something. So basically, being human (Following human wants and needs) and helping others in society is the point of life. Now, people that still don't see a defined purpose in life from what I said don't want to be human. As in, you wan't to be dead. Dead, dead. Universe is essentially gone dead. And that's not fun is it?

Tl;dr: Being human makes our perspective on the world inherently skewed with things like emotions, so the point of life is fulfilling these emotions that drive us to advance society.
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Posted by iHot (Post 158527)
Your here to fix your grammer.

*You're

Sungwonc01 07-10-2012 01:04 AM

Thank you Pimpsy. My new answer is to prolong the inevitable.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 01:12 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 158569)
Thank you Pimpsy. My new answer is to prolong the inevitable.

Thats not what I was saying. You want to have a purpose in life, because you're asking for one. That is because you are human and it isn't healthy to be moping around depressed. Since you're human, the purpose of life is to be human and all the things humanity comes with, because anything else is not wanting to be human, or wanting death.

Sungwonc01 07-10-2012 02:02 AM

I don't like the word purpose in this type of thing. It hints thatevrything is already pre destined for you. I think I would perfer it more spontaneous and random.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 02:05 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 158596)
I don't like the word purpose in this type of thing. It hints thatevrything is already pre destined for you. I think I would perfer it more spontaneous and random.

Yeah, I already said that in my original post. But if there isn't any purpose to life-- why don't you just commit suicide and get whats coming to you over with? Better yet, why are you on these forums? Most people give out the same response to these types of questions. Answer it yourself and then read what I just said again.

Sungwonc01 07-10-2012 02:15 AM

Because I have free will. I want to be on the forums and I don't want to commit suicide. There is no because life is random. One thing can change the other. If a baseball fell through my window right now I would have a variety of reactions.

Because I want to.

What I said may not make sense but I say it.

Because I want to.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 02:27 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 158605)
Because I have free will. I want to be on the forums and I don't want to commit suicide. There is no because life is random. One thing can change the other. If a baseball fell through my window right now I would have a variety of reactions.

Because I want to.

What I said may not make sense but I say it.

Because I want to.

I don't think you're getting exactly what I'm saying. You want to. That means you are motivated to do things in this universe. That means you have value in your existence as a human. Its not a defined purpose from some higher order that we need to follow, that's not really what I meant, its more like a motivation. My answer to this thread is that the motivation to succeed in life is the inherent want to be human and enjoy things that make you more human, like happiness and doing things that you, well, want to do.

Yephenpeace 07-10-2012 02:46 AM

Existence itself is illogical... So I think the purpose of life is different for everyone.

The "purpose" of life doesn't necessarily mean the grand answer to everything. To me, it means to find your purpose.

I personally believe that the purpose of life is to be happy. I also believe that life is more than the physical, and that it is something spiritual as well. To keep it as open-ended as possible, I'd just say that the purpose of life is to live.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 03:16 AM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 158614)
Existence itself is illogical... So I think the purpose of life is different for everyone.

The "purpose" of life doesn't necessarily mean the grand answer to everything. To me, it means to find your purpose.

I personally believe that the purpose of life is to be happy. I also believe that life is more than the physical, and that it is something spiritual as well. To keep it as open-ended as possible, I'd just say that the purpose of life is to live.

How is existence itself illogical? You and me are the result of a specific complex pattern of neurons firing in our brains. I don't get how that is illogical. Scientists have actually recreated (simple) images that people looked at in closed test chambers solely by reading their minds. In the coming decade it could be possible to make a video of peoples actual dreams. Consciousness is physical. I would like to believe in such spiritual things, (That would make the point of life alot more simple in such cases) but as long as there isn't any rational proof, I won't take a step into that direction because I will feel like I'm lying to myself just to feel happier.

Yephenpeace 07-10-2012 03:36 AM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 158626)
How is existence itself illogical? You and me are the result of a specific complex pattern of neurons firing in our brains. I don't get how that is illogical. Scientists have actually recreated images that people looked at in closed test chambers solely by reading their minds. Consciousness is physical. I would like to believe in such spiritual things, (That would make the point of life alot more simple in such cases) but as long as there isn't any rational proof, I won't take a step into that direction because I will feel like I'm lying to myself just to feel happier.

Existence is illogical. When I say existence, I mean absolutely everything. Not just us or our emotions.

Belief in Evolution: Existence is already established. Matter changed over time to produce life at it's current complex state. Something came from nothing.

Belief in God: The belief that God, who came from nothing, created everything. Something came from nothing.

No matter what kind of scientific or supernatural explanations you have. Nothing can explain where existence in general came from. It's generally illogical because of the chances or possibilities of existence occurring in something that doesn't even exist! It's hard to even word without sounding crazy. As for my belief in something spiritual, I do believe there is some sort of higher power. Life is far too complex for me to think it all happened by chance. You should believe what you want though, I'm not pushing my opinions, I'm just stating them. I ponder life a lot, and there's a lack of sense in the very fibre of everything.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 03:44 AM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 158636)
Existence is illogical. When I say existence, I mean absolutely everything. Not just us or our emotions.

Belief in Evolution: Existence is already established. Matter changed over time to produce life at it's current complex state. Something came from nothing.

Belief in God: The belief that God, who came from nothing, created everything. Something came from nothing.

No matter what kind of scientific or supernatural explanations you have. Nothing can explain where existence in general came from. It's generally illogical because of the chances or possibilities of existence occurring in something that doesn't even exist! It's hard to even word without sounding crazy. As for my belief in something spiritual, I do believe there is some sort of higher power. Life is far too complex for me to think it all happened by chance. You should believe what you want though, I'm not pushing my opinions, I'm just stating them. I ponder life a lot, and there's a lack of sense in the very fibre of everything.

Well, you're assuming that time is constant, and there was a time where there was nothing. That doesn't really make any sense, sense time itself is an actual manipulative thing. Generally its accepted that, since time itself is a phenomena, there was no time before the big bang. So, in that case, something didn't come from nothing. And when it comes to life being complex: Its actually not complex. The universe, as it expands and stars dim, goes from order to disorder. It may seem like we are a unit of order, but the waste we emit (dead bodies, poop, etc) far outweighs the materials and the population we produce. So our society is actually a form of increasing disorder, as is everything else in the universe. I'm not good at explaining that though, google, "Disorder and order in the universe" its rather complicated.

TL;DR: Philosophy is a bitch and messing with it doesn't get anyone anywhere.

DragonRider 07-10-2012 03:51 AM

To reproduce.


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