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Bubble 10-18-2011 08:18 PM
They should at least leave the chat up even if it's censored. What's the point of making the chat disappear just because a word is censored?

Dusty 10-18-2011 08:24 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 23859)
In the end what I'm proposing is to keep it the way it is, yes, the one "everyone" just evades anyway. I believe your throwing the term "everyone" around a little loosely, don't you think? There's a difference between joking around with your friends, and raging on a young player because he was laggy in spar. The main fact i'm getting at is that this basically encourages the use of rude words. I know you may not be thinking of this, but i can almost guarantee the use of obscene words will go up drastically if this comes into play.
No, you imagine it will. But I have played games with clientside filtering. It works brilliantly.

Yephenpeace 10-18-2011 08:30 PM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 23867)
No, you imagine it will. But I have played games with clientside filtering. It works brilliantly.
I don't need to agree with you, I just see some flaws with the idea. I'm just saying there are some really young players on Graal, who do not see much swearing/rude words due to the simple fact that not "everyone" tries to bypass the censor. I definitely don't think it's a bad idea, i just don't think it would be good for Graal. If added, they could easily be open to a lot of words their parents would not like.

9 year old's with ipod touches, gotta love em'!

Dusty 10-18-2011 09:28 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 23874)
If added, they could easily be open to a lot of words their parents would not like.
Except there would be a censor. If their parents don't like the words, wow, omg, there is a filter that would actually filter the words!

Cat612 10-18-2011 10:59 PM
If their parents are that concerned they wouldn't give them free reign to the Internet in the first place

Talon 10-18-2011 11:38 PM
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Posted by glitcher (Post 21933)
Gay also means happy.
That was my excuse when I was 12 bro.

Yephenpeace 10-19-2011 04:44 AM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 23892)
Except there would be a censor. If their parents don't like the words, wow, omg, there is a filter that would actually filter the words!
Lol, they could easily turn it off, which is my main point. I'm done talking about it though, i was just sharing my opinion about it, this is a forum after all. So if it's added, it's added, just expressing how i think. :)

Dusty 10-19-2011 04:56 AM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24133)
they could easily turn it off
Exactly. They could. Not anyone elses problems but their own. People need to stop thinking that everyone in the world needs to tailor everything to compensate for their lack of parenting.

Yephenpeace 10-19-2011 12:47 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24133)
I'm done
I'm a dirty liar^
Now that we have that cleared up i would like to say Graal shouldn't be something that parents with young children should worry about. It isn't bad parenting if they know the gane has, say, a word filter.

Dusty 10-19-2011 01:02 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24225)
a word filter.
That can, and often is, avoided. Again, if the filter is there, how is it GraalOnline's fault for the child turning it off? Yes, Graal is a game apparently catered towards children, but it's been shown time and time again that the filter they currently uses accomplishes none of what you're saying it does.

callimuc 10-19-2011 05:56 PM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 24226)
That can, and often is, avoided. Again, if the filter is there, how is it GraalOnline's fault for the child turning it off? Yes, Graal is a game apparently catered towards children, but it's been shown time and time again that the filter they currently uses accomplishes none of what you're saying it does.
True. iGraal would be supporting the filter but what players are gonna make out of it isn't their fault.

Emera 10-19-2011 06:24 PM
Although I have no issue with players and people being homosexual, the reason the word gay is banned isn't because the management dislikes homosexuality, but because players would use this word in an unkind, insulting way if it wasn't filtered. Believe me, it's better being filtered than not.

Yephenpeace 10-19-2011 07:40 PM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 24226)
That can, and often is, avoided. Again, if the filter is there, how is it GraalOnline's fault for the child turning it off? Yes, Graal is a game apparently catered towards children, but it's been shown time and time again that the filter they currently uses accomplishes none of what you're saying it does.
How is it GraalOnline's fault? Because they made an option to turn it off, duh. But i completely see your point, the word filter doesn't work 100% of the time so we should just allow them to see the words anyway... Great logic

Dusty 10-19-2011 07:42 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24291)
How is it GraalOnline's fault? Because they made an option to turn it off, duh. But i completely see your point, the word filter doesn't work 100% of the time so we should just allow them to see the words anyway... Great logic
If I had an option in my game to disable or enable censorship, and a parent wrote in and complained to me that their child was exposed to foul language, I'd say, "Ma'am, the game has a censorship option that is enabled by default. If your child was exposed to any sort of foul language, chances are he/she disabled that censor." Because yes, it is their fault. They had a choice, and they chose to disable the censor. Their. Fault.

Yephenpeace 10-19-2011 07:45 PM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 24292)
If I had an option in my game to disable or enable censorship, and a parent wrote in and complained to me that their child was exposed to foul language, I'd say, "Ma'am, the game has a censorship option that is enabled by default. If your child was exposed to any sort of foul language, chances are he/she disabled that censor." Because yes, it is their fault. They had a choice, and they chose to disable the censor. Their. Fault.
Obviously i'm not saying they didn't turn off the filter themselves, i just don't see the point of making it an option, the current filter is fine...

Bubble 10-19-2011 07:52 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24294)
Obviously i'm not saying they didn't turn off the filter themselves, i just don't see the point of making it an option, the current filter is fine...
It's not fine. You can get around it and it censors parts of words that aren't even intended to be used inappropriately. Have you read the rest of this thread?

Yephenpeace 10-19-2011 08:39 PM
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Posted by Bubble (Post 24297)
It's not fine. You can get around it and it censors parts of words that aren't even intended to be used inappropriately. Have you read the rest of this thread?
Ok... getting around a filter is always possible, regardless of if you can turn it off or not.

Dusty 10-19-2011 09:21 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24318)
Ok... getting around a filter is always possible, regardless of if you can turn it off or not.
This is a prime example of you missing the point. If the filter is optional, then people won't need to get around it. Assuring more accurate censoring for those that desire it, without the hassle and annoyance for those that don't.

Bubble 10-19-2011 09:22 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24318)
Ok... getting around a filter is always possible, regardless of if you can turn it off or not.
Exactly, but it's easier to turn it off so we don't have to waste time getting around phrases that shouldn't be blocked.

Yephenpeace 10-19-2011 09:33 PM
Theres nothing in what i said that you can explain to me xD i understand completely what you guys are saying, all your doing is repeating it. I expressed sone plausible down sides to it, that's it. If they add it then cool, a new feature that can be helpful, i'm just saying if anyone can shut it off then that means anyone can be open to rude language, including young children.

Bubble 10-19-2011 09:36 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24352)
Theres nothing in what i said that you can explain to me xD i understand completely what you guys are saying, all your doing is repeating it. I expressed sone plausible down sides to it, that's it. If they add it then cool, a new feature that can be helpful, i'm just saying if anyone can shut it off then that means anyone can be open to rude language, including young children.
Right, and if they shut it off it's their fault. Simple.

Yephenpeace 10-19-2011 09:37 PM
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Posted by Bubble (Post 24354)
Right, and if they shut it off it's their fault. Simple.
Yep, we shall thrust all the blame upon the 9 year old. Simple.

Bubble 10-19-2011 09:38 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24356)
Yep, we shall thrust all the blame upon the 9 year old. Simple.
If they want to turn it off, they should be made aware of what they're doing. Personally I think the age rating on the App Store should be raised from 4+.

Regretness 10-19-2011 09:46 PM
it means happy but people definatly use it as a very offencive way

Dusty 10-19-2011 09:47 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24356)
Yep, we shall thrust all the blame upon the 9 year old. Simple.
Or I dunno, the people responsible for the 9 year-olds(hint, it's not game developers).

Bubble 10-19-2011 09:48 PM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 24361)
Or I dunno, the people responsible for the 9 year-olds(hint, it's not game developers).
More like the people responsible for getting the 9-year-olds an iPod touch. Seriously, that's not smart.

Dusty 10-19-2011 11:14 PM
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Posted by Bubble (Post 24362)
More like the people responsible for getting the 9-year-olds an iPod touch. Seriously, that's not smart.
Pretty sure we're implying the same people.

Chaotic 10-19-2011 11:29 PM
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Posted by Dusty (Post 24402)
Pretty sure we're implying the same people.
You are, iPhone players just love to complain.

Crono 10-19-2011 11:46 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 23814)
In another light, young people arn't stupid, do you really want them open to a world of obscenities and rude words with a simple adjustment option?
Yes, let's hold their hands and babysit them on the internet. Do you know how easily people are exposed to "bad" content on the internet let alone real life? Pretty sure lapdancing *****s on MTV are worse than Graalians calling eachother gay.

Yephenpeace 10-20-2011 04:23 PM
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Posted by Crono (Post 24414)
Yes, let's hold their hands and babysit them on the internet. Do you know how easily people are exposed to "bad" content on the internet let alone real life? Pretty sure lapdancing *****s on MTV are worse than Graalians calling eachother gay.
Lol, your right, they are exposed to a lot of bad content on the internet. We should throw graal into that catagory! Good idea.

Bubble 10-23-2011 01:29 AM
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Posted by Chaotic (Post 24408)
You are, iPhone players just love to complain.
Lol I'm like this irl too, but yes iPhone players in general love to complain.

Chaotic 10-23-2011 01:52 AM
Wait the word gay is banned? thats so freakin gay wtf thats gay

Crono 10-23-2011 05:44 PM
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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 24648)
Lol, your right, they are exposed to a lot of bad content on the internet. We should throw graal into that catagory! Good idea.
My point is they have access to much worse content on the rest of the internet, let alone real life. The text filtering should be star based so players can still see a sentence when it has a swear word in it and completely optional.


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