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Talon 10-08-2013 04:10 PM

I see you didn't read the rest of the thread, did you?

All of your posts are about me, it makes me feel really popular, bro-guy.

Skill 10-08-2013 09:50 PM

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Posted by Arann (Post 417482)
http://puu.sh/4yhGN.jpg

Don't bother "Crono", he's not even good at LoL man, can't expect him to know about dota 2's scene.

You do realize Crono is in the "very high" matchmaking bracket and regularly shows up on the first couple pages of the live games list, right? That's like the rough equivalent of diamond in LoL, plat at the very least.

Rezon 10-08-2013 10:57 PM

crono play wc3 dota with me, cant run dota2 on my toaster

ill learn lina really hard champ

Crono 10-09-2013 04:08 AM

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Posted by Arann (Post 417482)
Don't bother "Crono", he's not even good at LoL man, can't expect him to know about dota 2's scene.

its ok, he wasnt trying to be a smartass or smth. wasn't rly wrong either.

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Posted by Skill (Post 417574)
You do realize Crono is in the "very high" matchmaking bracket and regularly shows up on the first couple pages of the live games list, right? That's like the rough equivalent of diamond in LoL, plat at the very least.

he was talking to talon. he said "crono" because he's my irl bro and normally calls me by my real name.

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Posted by Rezon
ill learn lina really hard champ

vs newbies it's kind of easy to land the stun. good hero to learn though, teaches you a lot of basic mechanics (farming mid with wave, landing an aoe spell with a long cast time, utilizing ulti, etc). just don't play her as support ;)

Thallen 10-09-2013 08:01 AM

I played through 56% (or something) of the tutorial mode last night and my observations as a first-time player coming from LoL are:
  • Hero abilities seem much more simple on Dota. AD/AP "scaling" on League is hard to understand and not defined (unless you look at the wiki) so Dota is easier to understand in that way.
  • There are a whole lot of very similar champions. I played Sniper in my first game, which is basically Caitlyn. His E works like Tristana's passive. His ult is practically the exact same thing as Cait's, too. I played the frost archer chick too, basically the same concept as Ashe with that Q ability. That makes it easy.
  • There is a whole lot more CC in this game. Against bots on League, I can run into 4 of them and go full ****** and get a quadra. In this, you will get pinned down and die without even putting out much damage it seems.
  • The "secret shop" is a unique concept that LoL doesn't incorporate.
  • Couriers are very interesting, another thing LoL doesn't have.
  • On League, I mainly play AD and often alternate between unlocked and locked camera during a teamfight to keep track of myself and to kite better. You can't do that in Dota.

It'll take me a while to get used to it. It seems like there are a lot more keys you need to make use of compared to what I use in League. The biggest differences to me so far are just the keys, the UI layout, and the fact that you have to actually actively purchase items while involved in stuff on the map.

Imprint 10-09-2013 11:59 AM

I'd disagree about spells being more simple. Maybe it's because I haven't played LoL long enough to know the heros.
ex: Visage's Ult/Meepo's Ult, Chen/Enchantress's jungle, io/furion global prescence.

Skill 10-09-2013 12:03 PM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 417789)
I'd disagree about spells being more simple. Maybe it's because I haven't played LoL long enough to know the heros.
ex: Visage's Ult/Meepo's Ult, Chen/Enchantress's jungle, io/furion global prescence.

As someone who's played both LoL and Dota I'd say LoL's spells are more simple. Riot tries to avoid making any complicated abilities that are hard to understand and "anti fun", and pretty much the only innovation they do nowadays is a new type of skillshot.

Dota, on the other hand, has all sorts of crazy stuff.

Thallen 10-11-2013 03:34 PM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 417789)
I'd disagree about spells being more simple. Maybe it's because I haven't played LoL long enough to know the heros.
ex: Visage's Ult/Meepo's Ult, Chen/Enchantress's jungle, io/furion global prescence.

I'm probably wrong but out of the 6 or 7 heroes I've played so far, that's all I know. I've mostly played ranged heroes like Sniper and Viper and they seem insanely straightforward and simple as far as their skills go. Does LoL have more skill shots than what Dota has? Haven't seen any thus far.

Crono 10-11-2013 03:43 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 418539)
I'm probably wrong but out of the 6 or 7 heroes I've played so far, that's all I know. I've mostly played ranged heroes like Sniper and Viper and they seem insanely straightforward and simple as far as their skills go. Does LoL have more skill shots than what Dota has? Haven't seen any thus far.

lol those heroes are extremely passive.

dota has micro-intensive heroes (visage, enchantress, chen, enigma spawns if you plan on using the hero correctly, etc) that requires a high amount of skill. more so than skillshots.

as for skillshots mirana's arrow, pudge hook, clockwerk ulti, and etc are pretty much the origin of skillshots as they predate the existence of the dota clones (hon, lol, etc).

if you really want to fist yourself try playing chen. probably one of the highest skillcaps in the game. visage is pretty tricky but you can generally whiff the birds but still win due to your strong skillset.

Skill 10-11-2013 04:00 PM

LoL has more skillshots.

But Dota has way harder heroes- try learning invoker or meepo lol.

Talon 10-11-2013 04:34 PM

Imprint can vouch for my sweet Visage skills.

Crono 10-11-2013 04:48 PM

i feel lol's skillshots are also easier to land and more spammy. dota's punish you a lot for missing. pudge can't hook that many times before having to regen, and a mirana arrow missing is basically a relatively mediocre hero until mid-late. clockwerk ulti missing is pretty much gg @ that hero, because he has to get in the fights to be useful and split the enemy team.

AA's ulti is pretty fun and relatively spammy.

Rezon 10-11-2013 06:13 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 418559)
i feel lol's skillshots are also easier to land and more spammy. dota's punish you a lot for missing. pudge can't hook that many times before having to regen, and a mirana arrow missing is basically a relatively mediocre hero until mid-late. clockwerk ulti missing is pretty much gg @ that hero, because he has to get in the fights to be useful and split the enemy team.

AA's ulti is pretty fun and relatively spammy.

dota has a lot of fun mechanics, compared to LoL where riot balances the game around the crappy players

Skill 10-11-2013 07:22 PM

LoL=league of skillshots, so much spammy skillshots that makes the game feel more fast paced
Dota 2=Harder to learn, more strategy involved, I don't really like it because it feels slow at times and I suck at it.

Crono 10-12-2013 02:59 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 418580)
LoL=league of skillshots, so much spammy skillshots that makes the game feel more fast paced

it's not really a skillshot if it's piss easy to land. lol is spammy, yes. it's one of the things i didn't like about it. you can mindlessly spam your skills and not get punished for it. if you miss a stun with lina you're going to get jumped and die. that one death will lose you your lane.

xander 10-12-2013 12:10 PM

i liek vengeful spirit<3

Skill 11-02-2013 07:25 PM


Crono 11-02-2013 07:42 PM

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volvo pls gib diretide

Imprint 11-02-2013 10:56 PM

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Imprint 12-15-2013 09:05 PM

New ranked match making is pretty good. People don't give up as easily in pubs and at least attempt to not be dumb. Has anyone else been playing recently?

Crono 12-16-2013 02:49 AM

can't beat the event on newgame ++ :(

Imprint 12-16-2013 12:59 PM

Cause its boring.

Crono 12-16-2013 03:42 PM

no cuz it's hard as *** on ++

i like how it's based on x hero siege, just wish they ripped off the whole thing.

Skill 12-16-2013 11:43 PM

Lol I wouldn't try ranked, I'm **** at Dota and don't know what half the heroes do. Maybe once I learn I'll start.

Imprint 03-18-2014 02:42 AM

Bumping this to see if any Graalians have picked up the most fun frustrating game out there in the past few months.

xander 03-18-2014 12:17 PM

i enjoyed the game before when I always hit at 60+ fps, but why the hell i experience 15-20 now? I dunno what to do. my settings are all lowered

Got nvidia (forgot name), 8GB ram, and I run it on a Windows 8 laptop.

Imprint 07-08-2014 06:00 PM

TI4 has started off. Any predictions? I think IG are looking really good coming into this tournament. They seem to have gotten over their slump earlier this year.

Crono 07-08-2014 07:13 PM

Woooow @MVP.

xander 07-10-2014 01:02 PM

EG BibleThump

Myst 07-10-2014 01:36 PM

LoL

Skill 07-12-2014 03:11 AM

Quote:

Posted by xander (Post 460781)
i enjoyed the game before when I always hit at 60+ fps, but why the hell i experience 15-20 now? I dunno what to do. my settings are all lowered

Got nvidia (forgot name), 8GB ram, and I run it on a Windows 8 laptop.

The game might be using the intel built in intergrated graphics instead of nvidia.

Toxic 07-12-2014 03:40 AM

I'm so bad at this game aha.

xander 07-12-2014 02:15 PM

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Posted by Skill (Post 488690)
The game might be using the intel built in intergrated graphics instead of nvidia.

I solved it a long time ago, thanks anyway

Skill 07-12-2014 10:39 PM

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Posted by xander (Post 488944)
I solved it a long time ago, thanks anyway

didn't see the date haha, everyone else posted in july after you.

Crono 07-13-2014 12:01 AM

RIP Alliance. :C

xander 07-13-2014 03:54 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 489124)
RIP Alliance. :C

R[A]T doto lose :c

Imprint 07-13-2014 04:04 AM

*** rat doto.

Crono 07-14-2014 12:03 AM

I would tell you American idiots to stfu but you guys are owning this TI so I'm channeling my inner 10-year Texan.

murca

Crono 08-09-2014 05:06 PM

yo imprint where dat meepo at

Imprint 08-09-2014 06:13 PM

Do you want to get rekt 1v1 meepo again?

Crono 08-09-2014 06:16 PM

"how 2 bottle crow"

Talon 08-09-2014 11:38 PM

carried imprint in low elo with based phoenix support

anyone else? mmr boost $10/game hmu

Imprint 08-10-2014 05:08 AM

We were too high MMR for crono to even join the party.

Skill 08-10-2014 05:17 AM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 497410)
We were too high MMR for crono to even join the party.

Wait does the game really restrict from people in different brackets for queuing on unranked games? That's lame, pretty much encourages smurfing which makes things 100x worse.

Crono 08-10-2014 11:55 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 497414)
Wait does the game really restrict from people in different brackets for queuing on unranked games? That's lame, pretty much encourages smurfing which makes things 100x worse.

How did you draw that conclusion when it's literally the complete opposite? MMR restriction is only for ranked games.

Crono 08-19-2014 12:34 PM

So close to 5k I can taste it.

Rezon 08-19-2014 03:42 PM

I'm down to play Dota on WC3 if anyone wants, PC ****s itself playing Dota 2.

Colin 09-15-2014 04:08 AM

Dota 2
 
Anyone here play it? Recently got into it with some of my friends was wondering if anyone here played as I prefer playing with friends on my team than just completely random.

If you do just leave a reply and I'll send you a message with an URL to my steam profile and skype name (I also have TeamSpeak)

Crono 09-15-2014 02:58 PM

http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17969

Talon 09-15-2014 08:23 PM

please use other one thx


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