If one of the plots to kill Hitler had worked then Germany may of had a chance unless another of the Nazis took power, some of them were more deranged in their ideas than even Hitler himself.
Nazism and communism would never have been compatible with one being far left and the other being far right so war was inevitable. Add in support for the Soviets from their allies and it was too big a nation to conquer without complete dominance in Europe.

I see you replied before I submitted my edit, but it's alright.
The Nazis didn't have someone as influential as Hitler and chaos would have ensued if the assassination had been successful.

I see your point, all the other political leaders had been killed or arrested already so there was no one else to take over.

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One of Germany's biggest faults was attacking the USSR, he should of fought and crushed England first (because he most certainly would of if he had focussed his armed forces on just one front). If Germany trodded carefully so that they kept America out of the German war, he would of crushed the USSR as well, I don't know why you think the USSR was so "powerful" either, the Germans made it pretty far into Russia before they lost, and their loss was purely because of a. Hitlers stupidity (not letting his army retreat even when advised) and B. The weather.

And Stalin was a douche bag, I would of liked to see his whole army destroyed and him being killed, I think he was more twisted than Hitler and the only reason you don't hear about him being a bad guy is because he joined the allies when his country was almost destroyed.

Anyway I'm not promoting the victory of Hitler because he was one of the craziest people who ever lived, I'm just saying that he had the military power and the strategies to conquer the world, he just got to crazy at the end.

Fun fact: when the allies entered Germany he had kids as young as 12 fight for him!

Well..history advances into Graalians.

And the obnoxious ****-posters like you trail right behind it.

The power of the SU was equivalent to that of America at the time.
It aso was the largest country with an extensive amount of resources, had a huge population for the time and a myriad of well-educated scientists.
The SU had 35 million men ready for military service and a labour force of 100 million. It was also building a lot of factories to start using these resources during the war.
Its climate, size and population are war tools as well.
The only thing I can think of that they lack military wise was the experience of the soldiers and war production.
Also Hitler saw England as an annoyance, because if it weren't for them escaping at Dunkirk where he let them escape (big mistake) they'd have been conquered easier.
Hitler thought the Eastern Front had more to offer (resources, farms and free labour), so he attacked the SU after Great Purge, he knew the newly appointed lacked experience. Stalin thought Germany was busy with England and was slowly rebuilding the army.
When the Germans made the surprise attack, nobody in the SU saw it coming and they were overtaken. Stalin locked himself in a room.
The leaderless Soviets were massacred. When he came out he ordered the drafting of every male over 14 and ordered them to fight to death or get executed. The Soviets held off the Germans from entering Moscow till winter for which Hitler was unprepared (coldest winter in 100 years) and the Germans retreated which started the process of their defeat.
So Hitler and Stalin were both bad leaders and both leaders' nations were advanced (one being more than the other), yet both made lots of avoidable mistakes.

uhh what happened to this thread

Hitler took over and Dimentio is trying to free us, that's what happened.

strategy != tactics

Look back at Stalingrad, Operation Barbarossa as a whole, his application of Russian tactics on the African front, forcing an early two-front war, and not learning from conditions in Napoleon's invasions of Russia in the past and tell me his strategy wasn't bad. Even if he stalled Barbarossa until England was dealt with, it's hard to say if it would have any prevalent effect on the war's outcome, but it doesn't take away from the fact that his strategy was terrible as a result of his desparation near the tailend of the war and he was fighting a losing war from day one.

Leaders require several traits to be considered a leader. A perfect leader has all of those traits, but a good one only needs some. Here are the traits that make a good leader:


That is my opinion on a good leader. I will repeat what I last said, a PERFECT leader has all of those qualities, a great leader only needs some.

For your project, if its not yet done already, you can take any one of those.

Stop saying "from day 1" no one knows what would of happened if he didn't start the 2 front war.

More people would speak German

Godwin's law