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hosler 12-30-2014 09:46 PM

Hackers should be hunted down like in the beginning. Staff would run around with boots and nets and it was glorious.

Kendama 12-30-2014 09:47 PM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 531383)
That doesn't mean you should do it...

that doens't mean you doing it should devastate dozens of people for months of hard work they put in

Thallen 12-30-2014 10:19 PM

I don't think priorities are straight if the target is a guild with 999:30 with 1 player hacking "for fun" when cancerous players like Zax and Tidus are allowed to freely tower and abuse intentional lag and lagblocks without any lasting punishment.

Also, if this Smiliz guy was the reason these guilds were reset, why the hell was he at Sardon's last night? Was he not banned? ???

Tyree 12-30-2014 11:07 PM

Its just a hat. Get over it.

Sicx 12-30-2014 11:12 PM

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Posted by Tyree (Post 531411)
Its just a hat. Get over it.

And 1000 guild tower hours..

Bryan* 12-30-2014 11:50 PM

If they had enough determination they could have just restarted and earn 1K legit without the help from hackers.

Common Sense 12-31-2014 12:13 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 531381)
obviously- you just dont realize how extreme of a punishment it is to disregard everyones true hard work and time and delete all the guilds progress.

Its like a lawsuit. A company gets a lawsuit for violating something. The whole company doesn't get all their money taken, they just have to pay up the right amount to the violation they committed

Eventually a company will lose all of its money if they keep getting sued and keeping having to pay money.

Helios has been using hackers for a while now, I'm sure they've been warned and they probably thought they could do it for fun because they were only less than an hour away from 1k.

Kuuga 12-31-2014 12:29 AM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 531383)
That doesn't mean you should do it...

Who cares?
99.99999999999999999999999999% of the world could care less about Graal.

It's entertaining to watch.

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Posted by Tyree (Post 531411)
Its just a hat. Get over it.

1000 hours.
41.6667 days at one tower, to get that.

Smartie.

Kendama 12-31-2014 03:04 AM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 531435)
Eventually a company will lose all of its money if they keep getting sued and keeping having to pay money.

Helios has been using hackers for a while now, I'm sure they've been warned and they probably thought they could do it for fun because they were only less than an hour away from 1k.

lawsuits do not build up from every different instance into one giant suit. They address each violation separately and upon conviction

Nep 12-31-2014 03:06 AM

This event of Helios being reset is working well, i saw a guild had castle and it said in the status "if anyone is hacking they will be banned from this guild." This has proved too graalians hacking is not accepted and its changing for towering for the good.

Kendama 12-31-2014 03:28 AM

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Posted by Nep (Post 531480)
This event of Helios being reset is working well, i saw a guild had castle and it said in the status "if anyone is hacking they will be banned from this guild." This has proved too graalians hacking is not accepted and its changing for towering for the good.

So many guilds have already said this. Their guild news will change in a couple days anyways. This isn't anything new or even worth posting.

The fact you guys think sacrificing one guild as an example is awful.

Common Sense 12-31-2014 04:01 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 531485)
So many guilds have already said this. Their guild news will change in a couple days anyways. This isn't anything new or even worth posting.

The fact you guys think sacrificing one guild as an example is awful.

Sorry please forgive us :'(
inb4 he was in the guild and was gonna get the hat

Craftz 12-31-2014 01:58 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 531397)
I don't think priorities are straight if the target is a guild with 999:30 with 1 player hacking "for fun" when cancerous players like Zax and Tidus are allowed to freely tower and abuse intentional lag and lagblocks without any lasting punishment.

You can't ban somebody or make the stop towering because they are laggy. Entie guilds like the arab guilds that are always around wouldn't be able to tower anymore.

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Also, if this Smiliz guy was the reason these guilds were reset, why the hell was he at Sardon's last night? Was he not banned? ???
Smilz wasn't the hacker. He has a history of hacking so naturally people thought it was him.

Kendama 12-31-2014 03:28 PM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 531493)
Sorry please forgive us :'(
inb4 he was in the guild and was gonna get the hat

Nice try, but
1) I have only been in 3 guilds in my Graal life and the last one was more than a year ago.
2) I have always denied when offered a hat, the only hat I ever wanted was the one from the very guild I own.

Furthermore, I played this game before the stupid hat even existed. It's ironic because all you new players come here and think 1k tower hours is all about a hat. I dont give a **** about anybodies hat. We are talking about the tower hours they have earned.

Common Sense 12-31-2014 03:33 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 531617)
Furthermore, I played this game before the stupid hat even existed. It's ironic because all you new players come here and think 1k tower hours is all about a hat.

Why else would someone get to 1k hours? :\

Craftz 01-01-2015 05:17 AM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 531619)
Why else would someone get to 1k hours? :\

For fun? The entertainment of towering? There used to be a time where people towered for the fun of it or to show up on the scoreboard, not for a hat.

TWIZ 01-01-2015 05:32 AM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 531780)
For fun? The entertainment of towering? There used to be a time where people towered for the fun of it or to show up on the scoreboard, not for a hat.

I'm afraid to tell you that that time has passed.

Common Sense 01-01-2015 05:48 AM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 531780)
For fun? The entertainment of towering? There used to be a time where people towered for the fun of it or to show up on the scoreboard, not for a hat.

Sorry to break it to you, but no guild is like that anymore.

Thallen 01-01-2015 09:24 PM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 531601)
You can't ban somebody or make the stop towering because they are laggy.

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Not true at all

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 531601)
Smilz wasn't the hacker. He has a history of hacking so naturally people thought it was him.

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Sicx 01-01-2015 11:08 PM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 531800)
Sorry to break it to you, but no guild is like that anymore.

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Natso 01-01-2015 11:28 PM

They deserved to be deleted , they all contributed ... If they were a good and homer able guild a lead should be able to see that a player is hacking on their tag and kick them , as this did not happen it implies that the leads also encouraged the hacking ....

Bryan* 01-01-2015 11:54 PM

This is old news, who cares. Time to live on because it's 2015.

Common Sense 01-02-2015 12:59 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 531970)
This is old news, who cares. Time to live on because it's 2015.

It's still kinda funny though lol.

Being reset at 998 hours? Omg lol

Kyle Del. M. H. 01-02-2015 01:07 AM

Should be a system where the software of relay is detected leavin a global ban.
Should be a system where you can actually ban someone from your guild.
Should be a system where hackers who bypass relay are somewhat banned from using a guild.
Amen.

Craftz 01-02-2015 02:48 PM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 531800)
Sorry to break it to you, but no guild is like that anymore.

Mabe not entire guilds, but there are individuals like this.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 531941)
UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Not true at all

So you are saying people should be banned for lagging? That maks no sense

Kosiris 01-02-2015 04:11 PM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 531601)


Smilz wasn't the hacker. He has a history of hacking so naturally people thought it was him.

Watch him hack on one of his alternate accounts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0G48fJNg3A

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Posted by Thallen (Post 531397)
I don't think priorities are straight if the target is a guild with 999:30 with 1 player hacking "for fun" when cancerous players like Zax and Tidus are allowed to freely tower and abuse intentional lag and lagblocks without any lasting punishment.

Also, if this Smiliz guy was the reason these guilds were reset, why the hell was he at Sardon's last night? Was he not banned? ???

Smilz uses alternate accounts to hack. He was using his main account when he was at Sardon's. He also health hacked on his main account for a couple of min and I kept reporting him but he stopped.

Bryan* 01-02-2015 05:24 PM

Why can't Graal make use of their GP's and have about 2-3 of them monitor the forts? Reports take too long to handle during these scenarios since either they would ignore it or are offline.

Craftz 01-02-2015 06:05 PM

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Posted by Khaled (Post 532134)
Watch him hack on one of his alternate accounts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0G48fJNg3A


Smilz uses alternate accounts to hack. He was using his main account when he was at Sardon's. He also health hacked on his main account for a couple of min and I kept reporting him but he stopped.

I don't see how that is health hacking. Sometimes the health glitches to where it shows the wrong amount of health.

Finley 01-02-2015 06:43 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 532148)
Why can't Graal make use of their GP's and have about 2-3 of them monitor the forts? Reports take too long to handle during these scenarios since either they would ignore it or are offline.

Having a single GP permanently monitoring towers is overstating the amount of hackers in those areas. I'd rather have them searching those soliciting underage nude pictures. Hackers also tend to play in spar arenas so if they were to dedicate a gp to the search of them, he'd most likely be in the Spar Dojo.

Take a second to report these rather than focusing solely on the flag. Don't expect anyone else to do the work for you.

Kosiris 01-02-2015 08:55 PM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 532155)
I don't see how that is health hacking. Sometimes the health glitches to where it shows the wrong amount of health.

True, but like I mentioned before he was also speed hacking but I couldn't record him. Also:
http://imgur.com/XsnInvz
How would he be at Sardon's flag without 300 kills?

Striken 01-02-2015 09:19 PM

Have a GP monitor towers and that's end of story. Only time I ever saw a GP/Admin @ tower was when vintage would have one of their admins scout before they were close to 1k. Admins are completely useless at this point besides offering hats to people for spending some time, make use of what you can and monitor the god damn game and it's activities. Yeah you get rid of the hackers at spar but what about towers and pk?

Colin 01-02-2015 09:23 PM

Apparently people don't know what the report system is for...

Kendama 01-02-2015 11:13 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 532206)
Apparently people don't know what the report system is for...

There have been plenty of instances where me and fellow guild mates report hackers and yet nothing happens to the hackers. 30 minutes later we get a PM from an admin asking how the person was hacking.

Not saying the report system is always flawed, but its nowhere near optimal

Thallen 01-02-2015 11:26 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 532203)
Have a GP monitor towers and that's end of story.

would be nice, except that GP needs to be intelligent and experienced enough to understand what a lag block is and isn't, recognize when a player is intentionally lagging themselves, etc.

my experience with admins at towers = Envy randomly going invisible and scouting/going directly to flag rooms for Vintage, Supreme banning players as they attack his guild, etc.



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Posted by Finley (Post 532164)
Take a second to report these rather than focusing solely on the flag.

I'm going to assume you've never actually tried doing this yourself
the response time, if at all, is a joke

Striken 01-03-2015 12:00 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 532239)
my experience with admins at towers = Envy randomly going invisible and scouting/going directly to flag rooms for Vintage, Supreme banning players as they attack his guild, etc.

This right here, but whenever someone wants to bring it up it'll just be shot down because admins are these gods that don't do anything bad.

Colin 01-03-2015 12:45 AM

If your report isn't answered right away then chances are there is no active admins paying attention and thus would be incapable of watching the tower anyways

Bryan* 01-03-2015 01:28 AM

Thats why they should have a GP like mentioned above who's "experienced" to specifically monitor the tower. What's funny is that most of the GP's have time to be on their player accounts but don't bother to log into their admin accounts. If you have the time to get one your player account for such and such hours, then I'm sure as hell they can do the same while monitoring a tower.

Striken 01-03-2015 01:36 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 532206)
Apparently people don't know what the report system is for...

Report system? When has that ever worked? Never in my life have I seen it work. For example I've witnessed several people being harassed and then when they defend themselves they get warned and the person doing the harassing doesn't get any punishment.

Craftz 01-03-2015 01:42 AM

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Posted by Khaled (Post 532199)
True, but like I mentioned before he was also speed hacking but I couldn't record him. Also:
http://imgur.com/XsnInvz
How would he be at Sardon's flag without 300 kills?

Summoned through marriage. 2p mount warp. Gamecenter warp.

Brick 01-03-2015 01:52 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 532263)
What's funny is that most of the GP's have time to be on their player accounts but don't bother to log into their admin accounts. If you have the time to get one your player account for such and such hours, then I'm sure as hell they can do the same while monitoring a tower.

You can only access a staff account from a computer. So when we're on our player accounts it's possible that we don't have access to our computer at the moment and we're playing on a mobile device instead.

Striken 01-03-2015 01:53 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 532268)
You can only access a staff account from a computer. So when we're on our player accounts it's possible that we don't have access to our computer at the moment and we're playing on a mobile device instead.

That's a general assumption. You can easily be on the air asia client, facebook, or have your phone in front of you while being on your staff account at the same time.

Bryan* 01-03-2015 01:54 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 532268)
You can only access a staff account from a computer. So when we're on our player accounts it's possible that we don't have access to our computer at the moment and we're playing on a mobile device instead.

Can't you multi-task?

Brick 01-03-2015 01:55 AM

Let's say I am visiting relatives in another town. I'm playing graal on my phone. I can't get on my staff account because my computer is at home, so I play on my player account instead.

Also, we're not supposed to be on both accounts at the same time.

Striken 01-03-2015 01:58 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 532271)
Let's say I am visiting relatives in another town. I'm playing graal on my phone. I can't get on my staff account because my computer is at home, so I play on my player account instead.

Again, not everyone knows that and you're just making assumptions. If you're really gonna insist that you can't multi-task then you're utterly useless. In MY honest OPINION all you people do is just give warnings and bans to the wrong players, only thing you can contribute is just give out hats by hosting events (thank god it was reduced to 1 hosting daily and not multiple), disregarding the GFX Staff since they actually produce something that we as players can receive.

Bryan* 01-03-2015 01:59 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 532271)
Let's say I am visiting relatives in another town. I'm playing graal on my phone. I can't get on my staff account because my computer is at home, so I play on my player account instead.

Also, we're not supposed to be on both accounts at the same time.

I believe you. But there's 21 GP's in total. I'm sure some of you have the time to access a computer and monitor a tower.

Colin 01-03-2015 02:00 AM

How does Brick not having access to a computer make him unable to multi-task? This is why it is hard for the team to do things efficiently when the half of you can't even comprehend basic scenarios and just speak out of your asses.

If someone's harassing you, block them/report them and don't stoop to their level, they obviously do more than just "defend" them selves if they are punished for it and the staff can not just warn/ban someone without viable evidence/

Striken 01-03-2015 02:03 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 532274)
How does Brick not having access to a computer make him unable to multi-task? This is why it is hard for the team to do things efficiently when the half of you can't even comprehend basic scenarios and just speak out of your asses.

If someone's harassing you, block them/report them and don't stoop to their level, they obviously do more than just "defend" them selves if they are punished and the staff can not just warn/ban someone without viable evidence/

If you don't have access to a computer enough to do your job then don't take the job in the first place.

Brick 01-03-2015 02:03 AM

We receive many reports from all over the map constantly. We go to check one, and then another pops up. We check that one, another pops up. We can't spend all of our time monitoring a tower. That leaves no time for other reports. I think a better suggestion would be to hire more GPs so it's not a constant struggle of "Are any admins on?" or "Why isn't my report being read?"

Colin 01-03-2015 02:05 AM

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Posted by Striken (Post 532276)
If you don't have access to a computer enough to do your job then don't take the job in the first place.

You are hurting my brain cells, this isn't even a job it is volunteer work and as he said stated in the example it could just be something as simple as visiting relatives.

You have never been a GP you do not know what it is like to handle mass amounts of reports therefore you should not be speaking against it, if they really wanted to watch towers they should hire GP members to do that specific task and nothing else.

Kendama 01-03-2015 02:08 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 532274)
How does Brick not having access to a computer make him unable to multi-task? This is why it is hard for the team to do things efficiently when the half of you can't even comprehend basic scenarios and just speak out of your asses.

If someone's harassing you, block them/report them and don't stoop to their level, they obviously do more than just "defend" them selves if they are punished for it and the staff can not just warn/ban someone without viable evidence/

Meanwhile we have collin and his admin praising antics going against the actual facts

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Posted by Colin (Post 532278)
You are hurting my brain cells, this isn't even a job it is volunteer work and as he said stated in the example it could just be something as simple as visiting relatives.

You have never been a GP you do not know what it is like to handle mass amounts of reports therefore you should not be speaking against it, if they really wanted to watch towers they should hire GP members to do that specific task and nothing else.

Obviously, that is what we were talking about before you came here to kiss ass.


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