Lip piercings are gross imo wtf y would u get that

Tats>piercings

But it has to actually mean or stand for something.

I think piercings look good if they are done tastefully, and a lot of girls I've seen look a lot hotter with piercings imo. Not so much on little dudes though, kinda looks a little gay in my opinion (if you are 400 lb of muscle piercings looks a little more intimidating). I have a bigger friend who put screws through his ears and he looks hard af with them. Personally though I wouldn't ever get a piercing, although I couldn't care less about whether or not anyone else does.

It's a sign of weakness.

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Besides the obvious fact that The Rock is neither insecure or weak, you should probably note that both tattoos and piercings have cultural roots, it's not just something that a bunch of punk teenagers do to look cool or fit in, in some cultures they are markings of Gods. Piercings go the same way, tons of Native American/Meso-American/ African Cultures had full body piercings.

Tattoos or Body piercings are not a sign of weakness, they can have cultural ties, can be expressions of art/creativity, or symbols held close to a persons heart. If you think any of that is a sign of weakness you are an idiot.

i dig 'em if they're done sparingly and tastefully

@ both piercings and ink

http://i.imgur.com/yioKkAo.jpg

So art is a sign of weakness?

My badass Charmander begs to differ.

anything but ear stretchers is okay makes you look like an idiot

So someones an idiot just because they don't have the same exact views as you? I am just expressing my religious belief, and for you to call me an idiot for standing firm in my belief, well I suppose I can't stop you from exercising your bigotry.

My personal opinion, and this is just my opinion… The Rock is a poor example. You know he has struggled with depression throughout his life? (article) Just because the rock has muscles does not make him strong on the inside. You are focusing on outside appearance. Here is a question for you, why does any person pursue any type of career in Hollywood? Including the rock and every famous person? It's because they want to be idolized. Why does a person want to be idolized? Because they're insecure. Why are the insecure? Because they're weak.

Sure, you could ask the question, "But they're so popular, why would they be insecure?" Well, my response would be, why did Robin Williams kill himself? Why are there so many famous people heavily abusing drugs, illegal, and legal?

My personal belief is tattoos and things of that nature, when you get down to the bottom line, it's to draw attention to oneself. And if you need something to draw attention to yourself, its because you don't feel comfortable in your own skin.

People that I consider strong are people that are willing to make sacrifices. People that have made the decision not to buy expensive clothes, or tattoos, or jewerly, because they want to use that money to help others, whether it be the homeless, people with illnesses, orphanages or whatever. Those are the people I consider strong, who sacrifice looking a certain way, or doing things for themselves in order to help others.

What if both sides of this argument can be true(depending on the person they're talking about)? Can it be possible? Nod your head up and down

Go to the 2nd page to see my venom bite piercing, I personally love it but idk.

I like viper bites and ear rings. Not sure about others. Hips, I have only seen a few times

Nods head up and down.

I think tattoos are cool. A lot of people I know get them just because. And one of my friends got angel wings and his sisters name to represent his disabled sister. That was touching imo.

So you are calling me a bigot because I think you're an idiot for saying that regardless of the circumstances, tattoos/body mods are a sign of weakness? I don't think Sir is an idiot for saying that tattoos should mean something-- I don't hold that belief either, but it looks like he is atleast a little more tolerant than you.

When you get down to it people do not get tattoos just to draw attention to yourself. I gave you a few reasons why tattoos are not just a reason to draw attention to yourself. If you want to ignore that and still stand by your belief that they are purely for insecurity issues, you are the bigoted one. Furthermore it's not your business how someone spends their money. Its not impossible for someone to buy a tattoo and still help others.

What I cannot understand is that because someone has ink you think they are weak or insecure. To me thats a pretty ignorant point of view, you have no idea the story of another person, what they have done, where they have been, and to base a lot of it off of some tats? That is ignorant. Expressing your religious beliefs is chill, and I really don't care too much about you doing it, but using it as a tool to bring others down really ain't chill.

Yea, I agree, some people who get tattoos could be weak or insecure. But when you are making tats the root of that insecurity for everyone I don't think thats right.

Further as Pacman posts, I feel he's those type of people that will complain about literally anything to grab others attention.

Pacman was making his point, at least he has the decency to put it into a laid out form with arguments and counter arguments.

It doesnt matter where your piercing or tattoo is going to be (uh, sometimes).
The type and size is what matters

Simmer down bro, I'm not drinking to bring anyone down. I have friends with tattoos, and I don't spend my town beating them down about a tattoo. But if they ask me my view about it, I'm going to give it. What type of person would I be if when someone asked my opinion I lied to them?

I'm pretty sure there was a post in this thread that specifically asked for views on tattoos. I simply gave mine. I'm not trying to persuade you into believing what I believe, but that's my personal belief. I never directly attacked anyone on this forum by saying, " oh YOU are an idiot, for doing this or that". I simply stated that getting a tattoo is a sign of weakness, and I'm generally speaking here.

Do I believe every person that has a tattoo is weak? No, of course not. Why? Because tattoos are permanent, and people can change. Maybe they were weak at a point in there life (when getting the tattoo) but then later on in life changed. Ask any old person who has a tattoo that they got when they were young if they'd do it again. I guarantee the majority of them would say they would not. Most of the time they say something like, " I was young and dumb"

I believe people only get tattoos because they care what others think, and it's going to give them some type of image. Someone in this thread said people might get tattoos because of their culture. Lol! That proves my point. If you're doing it for your culture you're doing it because you care what people think, you care what your culture thinks. A person that makes decisions based on culture is weak minded. Would you like examples? Sure.

Nazi soldiers did what they did because of their culture. Some are still being caught and out on trial to this day. And their defense is, " hey I was just following orders, doing what everybody else was doing, bla bla bla"

How about slavery in the United States? I'm sure the slave owners thought, " hey I'm not doing anything wrong. Everybody has slaves. It's part of the culture, it's not illegal, my slave owner buddy got a tattoo, tweeddle dee tweedle dumb"

So the culture reason for getting a tattoo is a weak argument to me . IMHO I feel that it actually proves my point that it's a weakness, because the person is making decisions based on culture instead of their own free mind.

Here's some other reasons against tattoos...

*if you're a Christian the Bible speaks against it.
*as you get older that thing is going to stretch out and look gross
* it's permanent. How many times have you liked an outfit or something, then like a year later you thought it looked silly? Tattoos for ever bro unless you got a lot of money to remove it, and I hear even then it doesn't always come all the way off.
* trust a tattoo artist? You're trusting someone to put an image on you perfectly the way you want without making one mistake, because if they do, you're stuck with that!
* if you're a female wanting to travel with a tattoo, now you have to worry about where you go, because some areas will kill you for having a tattoo, it's like disrespectful to their God Allah or something. If I'm traveling I wouldn't want to have to watch my back over some silly tattoo, it's not worth it

I believe everyone is already created beautifully, and no one needs a tattoo to enhance the beauty they already have. You don't need tattoos, jewelry, or expensive clothes to demonstrate that. Let your personality and character show it.


Well how you "feel" about me is completely inaccurate. You're making some great assumptions with no real substance.

Views were asked about tattoos and I gave mine. No complaints at all.. Just a simple point of view.

I don't need your attention, nor do I care if you give it or don't give it. I can go to the movie theatre by myself and be completely comfortable.

I don't NEED the approval of others to feel comfortable. I don't need a tattoo to express myself. I'm not weak minded, that's why I'm not afraid to give my opinion regardless of it's going to be a popular view or not. That's the difference between me and you. In this world you have leaders and followers, which one are you?

:love::love::love::love::love::love:

I think you should do tf u want, if u like piercings > get em if theyll make u happy!
You wanna shave ur eyebrows? > dont do it, idc. Dont do it, ill find u and glue them back on ur face. JS JS
i personally wanna get my arms tattooed when Im older.

Tattoos are fine as long as you don't make yourself into a fool and put them on your face and whatnot. That Pacman fella is making them out to be way worse than they actually are just because the Bible says so. In reality it's just a image permanently put on your body and with proper reasoning behind getting one they're really not all that bad. So basically, as long as you feel this tattoo has solid motives behind it, then do it just like you would everything else in life.

I'm gonna get a small tattoo on my lower back that says "Andy". He was the love of my life; he died on Dec 27th, 2013

*Removes hat*

RIP Andy.

thank you. <3

If you disagree with the Bible, I respect your choice to do so.

I would like to share my thought on the first part of your post and say you sound hypocritical. I'm curious how you can say tattoos are okay as long as they don't put it on their face and what not. For me I'm either completely for it or completely against it.

So it's okay for you to judge a person with a tattoo on their face? But you're okay with the rest of the body being tattooed? At least I'm consistent and equally disapprove of all tattoos? To me I would thinks it's worse to pick and choose which tattoos a person has is going to get YOUR approval. I would even take it a step further and say that's worse than a person getting a tattoo.


My condolences. It's never easy losing someone.

Thank you. <3

Getting my shoulder tattoo tonight will post a photo of it and the room as I promised earlier,

Do you want a biscuit for the moments you quote/reply to what I post?

Tattoos are cool no matter what they are if there is a story behind it you can tell, I like art with symbolism and meaning rather than just design but thats my $0.02

I know I will get one some point in my life, whether it's next year or in 10, but I can't find the one for me yet.

tf does that mean.

I do, only if it comes with gravy.

*passes Blu one biscuit*

The way you originally presented your argument made it seem like you had a very bigoted point of view.

*I can understand the christian argument, to a degree. However I think many christians do not think it is proper to follow the bible word to word. A lot of my christian friends have bible verses tattooed. How do you feel about that? If I was a christian the way I would see something like that, is that it would be keeping the word of God as a part of your body.

*Not if you properly maintain it. If you want to keep a tattoo looking good you will have to dish out a bit of money.

*Some things do follow you for your entire life.

*Well if you are going to get tattoo you should be hiring a good artist, and not some scratcher you find on the streets. Just like any other art as well-- you don't start with your final draft, if your artist has half a brain they are going to stencil it on first and then work off of that.

*If you are going to get killed for having a tattoo somewhere, that is probably not the best choice for travel in the first place, regardless of whether or not you have a tattoo.

I agree, everyone is created beautifully, and would be just fine without a tattoo. I think there are too many different circumstances to just say that you are weak or insecure for getting a tattoo.

A good friend of mine (much older than me) is thinking about getting his rank (CMSgt) in the Air Force tattooed on the back of his leg, why? Because he spent his whole life in the military, and is proud of his rank. It is something that he will have with him till the day he dies. In a circumstance like that I cannot comprehend how one could think that tattoo is a sign of insecurity.

Awhile ago I saw online someone talking about a tattoo they had, it'd take awhile to find it so I'm not gonna bother, but they worked in a job where they spend a lot of time speaking to others from foreign countries-- and so he hears a lot of foreign languages. He would get the word "love" added to his tattoo in each different language that he came across (he posted pictures and it looked really great). It was something he enjoyed and made him happy. I cannot comprehend how one could think that tattoo is a sign of insecurity.

I also agree with this.

Poor examples, are you really trying to compare eugenics, genocide, human trafficking, and slavery to body modification? Furthermore nazism wasn't a part of germanic culture, it was a twisted political movement.

Also if you are going to blatantly talk about how your base reasoning for not supporting tattoos is due to your religion, maybe saying that making decisions based off of a religious culture is not the best thing to do. Just like you have a choice to follow what your religion says, so did anyone else who had tattoos for cultural reasons.

I don't think you have a clear perspective of what I meant by "cultural reasons", do you believe in God because you care what others think? No? Maybe you should try and relate your own beliefs and motives to those of others.

Of course I'm not trying to compare eugenics, genocide, human trafficking, and slavery to body modification. :) The first argument made against my statement of tattoos being a sign of weakness, someone said people get tattoos for culture, as if that was a good reason to get a tattoo. My example was to show that making decisions based on culture, whether it be in regards to tattoos or anything for that matter is a bad idea, because cultures do not always make the best decisions, and I give a few examples throughout history where "culture" didn't make great decisions. So why follow culture? People should examine things for themselves and make a decision based on their own findings.

But what if the person wants to be an archaeologist, and they're fascinated by Egyptian history? The point is, having a tattoo unfortunately can limit a person. It's sad that people make judgements based on personal appearance, but they do. The United States military also has a policy on tattoos, and if you get certain types of tattoos you might not be able to join.

When a person goes in for an interview, unfortunately they are going to judge you. It's going to be based on whats on your resume, how you speak, how you smell, and your overall appearance. I'm pretty sure, unless a person is applying to be a tattoo artist, if two people have identical resumes, and the only thing that separates the two is tattoos, with a white collar type career, the guy without the tattoo is going to get the job.

Sure tattoos may seem cool, but is it worth the hassle of possibly not getting a job? Plus, you even said yourself, a tattoo can stay looking good if a person is willing to dish out the money. So on top of the 100s you pay for the tattoo, now a person will have to pay for maintaining it? That sounds expensive, and such an unnecessary hassle.

Here is a verse for those types of christians:
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

How do I feel about it? I feel like they should repent. ;) The bible says the body is a temple of God 1 Corinthians 6:19 So, you can ask your Christian friend, would they graffiti a church?
Also, another basic Bible verse for the Christian: "'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.

Well, Christianity says not to be worldly, or you could say follow what the culture does. I'm not going to call the person that gets a tattoo an idiot. I have Christian friends with tattoos, and I don't sit there talking about their tattoos all day lol. But if they ask my opinion, I'm going to give it, and I respect other opinions whether I agree or disagree with them. I have a choice to follow my beliefs, and they have a choice to get a tattoo, I don't disagree with you there.

This part isn't really directed at you, I'm just speaking generally here:
My real issue is with those that call Christians bigots for standing firm in their belief. Why do I have to conform to someone else's belief that it's okay to get a tattoo or I'm automatically labeled an idiot? Why can't we just all respect different views on things?
For the person that called me an idiot, how about you go to the middle east and let them know you're gay and how it's okay, then see how understanding they'll be with you. Tell them they're idiots for disagreeing with you, and watch your head get cut off.

I kind of pretend to believe in God to make my mother happy

I was brainwashed into believing it as a kid and I eventually learned to think for myself...
Religion is an interesting topic, but I'd rather not have people push their religions onto me as if they're the one true religion or something.

I won't deny the existence of any "gods" but I can't really say I believe things that go against proven science and logical theories. *Ahem* evolution

Just Don't get your nose peirced ....
Thats the worst
also why did this thread get to
peircing opinions to yoda to tatoos to religion to culture
All we need now is a Random Gif

Evolution is a theory, not a fact.

I think Penn Jillette who is a famous atheist makes a good point in regards to your comment:




http://i.imgur.com/6ts8ig2.gif

I'll be getting tattoos next year when I turn 16, lots of em

Tell that to modern medicine.

what does medicine have to do with evolution?

A theory with overwhelming evidence to support it, yes. What's your point?

I haven't read anything more than the title, but imo piercings look bad other than single earlobe pierces and I generally look at people with them more negatively than other people. As in I really don't ACTUALLY care, but my first thought when I see someone with a nose piercing is far more likely to be "****ing ******" than "they look nice."

now this thread is complete

Evolution has already been proven in multiple instances, a key one being the sea slug who has learned how to perform photosynthesis.

also, bit delayed on the tattoo (my Dad's the artist and since we weren't rushing it he decided to do it when my brother comes down to get his)

Spread your fingers apart and look at the webbing in between, we are the only homo genus species that has this feature, because we developed it over the years.

(i spread my fingers and was like "whoa, hes so right. +rep" lol)

Huh? That isn't proving it, that's just providing evidence for it. I'm Catholic but I believe in the theory of evolution, even the most recent pope says you can be Catholic and believe in the theory of evolution.

And growing up I went to a Catholic school, and they taught us about the theory of evolution and Charles Darwin in Science class. Even my religion teacher believed in the theory of evolution (he never confirmed this, but he always would say that "God set up an entire line of dominos and by pushing one of them, he started a chain of things when time began".

The Bible isn't a history book. It's a book of stories. Stories that teach us about morality and how things came to be. The Creation Story of Adam and Eve tells us how sin came to be, why women experience pain at child birth, why we aren't just born to be in Heaven, and how Satan (in the form of a serpent) is always trying to persuade us to turn against God.

The story of Cain and Abel shows how murder came to be. When Cain killed his brother, murder and death entered into the world. We also know Cain killed his brother out of jealousy.

The Bible is not meant to be a history book. Even the New Testament doesn't tell us much about Jesus's personal life. We only read about what he taught and what he said.

I could be saying the wrong stuff and just setting myself up for eternity in hell, but that's what I believe.

I would never do that!

I'm Catholic and have watched documentaries explaining how evolution of our consciousness happened so suddenly, it's near impossible for something that's more complex then anything in our universe (to our knowledge) to have been birthed naturally. But honestly, the endless number of sins you're never supposed to do is unrealistic such as erm.. touching yourself XD. It's human nature and.. yeah... damn. awkward. >///<

Opinions on piercings?
 

My point is it's not a fact. A theory is a theory.

Do you know how many people have spent their lives in prison because there was an overwhelming amount of evidence to say they're guilty, but now are finding they were innocent because of DNA. Overwhelming evidence means nothing unless you can 100% prove it. Google innocent project.


What are you talking about the Bible isn't a history book? The Bible is a canonical collection of texts sacred in Judaism and Christianity.

The Old Testament has Jewish lineage that no historian would dispute. It's funny because they use to say King David never existed since only the Old Testament mentioned him, but then archaeologist found tons of evidence.

The New Testament in the 4 gospels it talks about Jesus. Again, historians, Jews, Muslims, none of them deny the existence of Jesus. They may deny His deity, but not his existence.

The Bible IS a history book, that is 100% facts. Many many people throughout history have tried to disprove information in the Bible, but have always been unsuccessful. I've taken world religion, and you can find things that can disprove parts of most religions except the Bible.

You're so deep man, I guess there are no facts in life only varying levels of theories. Mind = blown.

Mentioning history in the middle of supernatural bull**** does not mean the Bible is more correct. I don't deny that the Bible has stories about actual events, but I think we can all guess which parts are make believe.

Isn't it nice that you can be disrespectful and tell a Christian his beliefs are bull*** and he/she will still be friendly ;)

Go draw a picture of Mohammad and give it to a Muslim and see what happens.