Ya, that's it. I've literally never spoken to either of these weirdos but I'm apparently the first person they have an opinion about...

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"We are better than you, we are very better than you."

Gotcha.

I can't stop laughing

That Ben and Leaf video was fake,
For one, the so called "Ben" in that video was not the Ben that DDoSed WAR members, also leaf was a fake anyway, also DDoSing has a various of attacks, for example XRML- pingback, layer 4, and layer 7. Anyone can DDoS, but it's about the power. And not much power was needed to take down this so called "WAR" guild. Like thallen said, if you don't want people getting your IP, use socks, this will block access of Skype resolvers from getting your current IP, and don't be dumb enough to click on IP loggers.
Protect yourself from getting your IP, and then you can try it in a range of skype resolvers, it will say "Failed to resolve this username". Sometimes it will give a old IP. Simple solution, WAR don't use people to DDoS guilds, and protect your IP.

Confirmed malicious intent by WAR?

Indeed, WAR did try and make me DDoS other guilds, guess they suck that much.

Evidence? Doesn't seem like something PT would do.

Pt said "You should DDoS Alumni members", and a few others did.

Yeah I've been recruited like 8 times in WAR/Apostles at Belle it's normal doesn't seem anything too suspicious to be honest. It'll require evidence to make me and some others to believe it because it's your word against theirs.

Indeed, shame i never screenshotted evidence.

Just out of curiosity who told you to "DDoss other people" ??!?!?!

They? Not sure if you even are the real ben, just to spread bs. I doubt that war was trying to ddos others, so don't spread false rumors without having any proof.

Like I said, I don't know who ben is. He was recruited by prime at belle, but only after I heard that he was blackmailing primetime. This doesn't even matter anymore, ben is old news and not a threat. If ben was added to ddos other guilds, then I had no clue of this nor would I want him to do that as it takes the fun out of gst. This should fix his "1337 haxor skills" if you still feel threatened.

Zid, PT actually did, just figured out that PT stands for primetime, and also skull. I wont be participating in another GST, that was my first one.

Are you saying that I told you to DDOS me? Because that just seems silly of me.

Under no circumstances did i say you personally asked me to DDoS you, i am saying, you told me to DDoS other guilds.

Why do Ben and Leaf sound like fat sadistic loners.

Yeah that never happened for sure. You literally just swooped that story up from Thallen's post and are trying to flip the blame on us.

That's messed up man. You knocked my team out of the GST before we even had the chance to compete. I hope you get what's coming to you.

Yeah that doesn't sound right to be honest these guys are the most humble sparrers on iClassic. Skull's already won GST why would he need to cheat to win another it takes the fun away from it.

Also these guys practiced for so long why would they risk it all just for you to DDos their competition

I was hoping I could start a flame war with ben but aw.

I for one don't think it's completely out of the question. A lot of desperate people on Graal+Alumni win streak+Witnessed Ddoser before/tagged him strangely before GST. Obviously there's not tons of proof, but I don't think it's impossible for sure.

In fact, I'm edging to Ben's side atm.

Sequence of events:

PrimeTime gets DDoSed at belle a week before GST
WAR says it's Ben
Ben gets added to WAR
Random accounts start PMing members of Alumni and Labrateam for their Skype accounts
We say no because we're not dumb
Thallen updates a status warning everyone to not give out their skype info
WAR gets DDoSed during GST

Sounds like some people got their just desserts. I know that Jack isn't malicious enough to ever do that and I'm pretty sure Zid wouldn't since they both like competition. I don't know the others well enough to speak for them but I'm pretty sure there are a few that are desperate enough to try.

PrimeTime is a truly humble guy he wouldn't it just isn't in his nature. Skull has no need to he's won GST and has been doing good in previous GST and he's been practicing hard and was still trying even though his entire team got DDosed.

Also I was the only person on LRT mixed team to even get asked for my skype and all the others that were asked were in iDevice and i'm like 90% sure everyone would know Sarah and MShaks wouldn't be doing mixed so why would WAR want to get them DDosed. WAR know i'm no Dante when it comes to gsing so there would be no point trying to get me DDosed so that's where im kinda confused if WAR were desperate to win why would they want iDevice guys DDosed i'm sure they weren't that desperate for their ally guild (CRZ) to win.

Maybe this should clear some stuff up. I deleted the conversation, but I salvaged some of it. This lady could speak on prime's behalf.

Didn't think alumni would stoop so low not just to tell others that they don't have a say in gst hats, but to accuse a guild to be "extremely desperate" to ddos others. Sad really.

Taken 1-2 weeks ago
http://i.imgur.com/W88yiL8.png

So you're saying Alumni are covering there on tracks?

To be honest I'm not sure what he's saying. Aside from the fact that he doesn't know the definition of "accused."

Who knows, thallen said he was at belle when ben was recruited, which he wasn't. Could just accuse alumni of pretending to be a player named ben, but I wouldn't lower myself to call them "desperate" enough just for a 5th win. Hopefully the false accusations stop. Funny that ben is going along with the lie.

so Ben blackmailed PrimeTime to join WAR to not do GST with WAR to DDoS WAR?

uh

Edit: Also we just said we should be able to pitch ideas for future GST hats, not have the power to decide entirely.

I'm gonna think logically here and ask an admin/GP (or whatever the hell you call them on this server) to check the PM history of Ben and the other members of WAR.

#ProblemSolved

P.S. Reveal who is lying/telling the truth

Yes, I was? You get weirder and weirder by the day... if you aren't side boosting on alternate accounts and lagging yourself, you're getting involved in weird DDoS schemes... I don't get it? Just be normal, stop.

And since you'll make a comment like that, yes, I completely believe people like you, Skull, and Prime would get involved in some BS like this. We're talking about the same guild where you and Skull randomly delay on alternate accounts. The same guild whose leader uses strange illnesses to fish for members. The same guild that has a fake NeoJenova and Tortoise on their roster, so yeah. The only person in WAR who I'd trust throughout all of this is Jack.

Until proven wrong, here's exactly what I think happened:

• Dude DDoS'd Prime
• Prime desperately offered to add him to WAR to get him to stop or whatever
• You guys became all buddy-buddy and maybe offhandedly suggested he DDoS other guilds
• People like myself and Sarah caught wind of it and made statuses warning people
• Ben assumed one of you snitched on him
• You all got DDoS'd

So ya, that's my belief until otherwise.

No clue on what he told prime. I didn't get into it that much, because ben kept saying that sarah was lying. Prime told me not to defend him against ben when I told ben to stop bothering prime. But what you said is most likely what happened. I even thought at one point that prime was ben and he was just ddosing me as a prank, but who knows.

You are sad man. You know what? When I was in war prime accused you of using WSU, which is some sort of enguard hack, and I always tried to defend you. I never selective sparred on my alternate, sarah is just mad because I didn't want to spar her with her delay. :/ disappointed in you

Quit lagging yourself. Quit recruiting fake players to appeal to people. Quit Skyping with weird people. Quit getting involved with DDoSers. Quit trying to pin the blame on others. Can confirm this recipe works, just won 5 GSTs and never got DDoS'd a single time.

Desperation Exhibit A displayed above

UH BRO Why am I INVOLVED IN THIS!
I'm Getting DDoSed HELP.

Other believable war members: exalt, zid, skull, pt (mainly because I know and trust them)

I hope you know that this:

is nonsensical and should not be taken seriously. It's not what happened because it doesn't make any sense. What I think actually happened is all above and in this thread. But that's just my opinion. If you can prove this logical sequence of events wrong, then go ahead but until you do I'm going to have to stick with what makes sense.

The thing that really beats me is why are there 3-4 alumni members on this thread right now? discussing something that did not happen to them and pretty much has nothing to do with them (besides the asking for usernames for skype)

Because this should be recognized by the community.

Did you skip the part where people were going to hilarious lengths to try and get our Skype accounts?

• Someone pretending to be Brett PMed me numerous times for my Skype
• Brett claimed someone PMed him for my Skype
• Some girl randomly asked me for my Skype offering "cam shows" (worst attempt)
• Dante received random requests to his Skype after not getting any for months

No one needs any special permission to post here, and I don't believe the whole "WE R INNOCENT" story.

It's a forum bro anyone from the game can come on here.


Also eeehhhh I just think that the l PM logs should get checked to get to the bottom of this.

But you're still attacking aguzo for defending prime? why I will not even try to understand or comprehend.

This guyyyyyy

Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what you trying to say?!

No I knew that was going on, I talk with WAR regularly.

Didn't attack anyone? Just showing some examples is all.

Also zid said himself. Yes while this is quite disheartening they will be back for the next GST. (that is if prime gets over this)

fair enough. Just try not to go overboard :)

Yep. Not saying prime did something wrong, but if he did I'd like some proof. Otherwise any theories are just theories.

You know they won't check PM logs purely because the GP's are hopeless.

im tryina say you da man. for the da sensible plan.

You guys do know there are a thousand different ways to communicate with someone, right? Checking PMs won't prove anything because this could have been discussed over skype/kik/snapchat/blah/etc.

It's all beans to me because I'm not the one that added someone who DDoSed me and my entire guild.