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sssssssssss 06-11-2015 09:56 PM

Calm your teets friends...

P.S.
Hi Thallen. I still have wet dreams about you, even after all these years.

David M. 06-11-2015 10:02 PM

Don't see why there wouldn't be a possibility as to why YD couldn't have won a few. In general, some styles just work against another. Doesn't necessarily make the winner better, but just means his style works against the loser's.

Ivy 06-11-2015 10:13 PM

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Posted by Shadow M. (Post 578445)
so tru liek evry1 else suks at spor. No compititin.

kek

MikvaGraal 06-11-2015 10:38 PM

kata and tritton are the most underrated sparers ever

Marouke 06-11-2015 11:08 PM

GG
 
I think I suck or underrated! Btw this is marc

Ash Ketchum 06-12-2015 01:16 AM

Holy **** it's marc

Livid 06-12-2015 01:27 AM

I mean I see why Dante wrote about YD & Skull, they both somehow used vpn, speeded or whatever but its not like no one has done this before so why call those two out on it?

YD* 06-12-2015 01:48 AM

10-3 was just an estimate on the score. Im pretty sure you (david) seen me beat dante plenty of times that day he decided to call me a speedhacker. I dont speed & its just that simple. Last time I checked, if someone hacks & you report, the admins will obviously spot it & ban. Nothing ever happened to me so im sure thats enough to prove I dont speedhack. Dante just mad that I beat him when I dont lag lol. Its a game at the end of the day?

Livid 06-12-2015 01:50 AM

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Posted by YD* (Post 578661)
10-3 was just an estimate on the score. Im pretty sure you (david) seen me beat dante plenty of times that day he decided to call me a speedhacker. I dont speed & its just that simple. Last time I checked, if someone hacks & you report, the admins will obviously spot it & ban. Nothing ever happened to me so im sure thats enough to prove I dont speedhack. Dante just mad that I beat him when I dont lag lol. Its a game at the end of the day?

Whoa who called YD lol I spotted that 1st post.

YD* 06-12-2015 01:56 AM

My friend just showed me this lol. But foreal tho, why would they talk about me speedhacking when Alumni is owned by a hacker himself? Why try and call me out for somethig I dont do when dante himself delays like crazy 😂 I swear he just said that cause I kept beating him repeatly. Stay in yo lane dante, stop worrying about others and MAYBE you wouldnt be hated by half of graal.

Livid 06-12-2015 02:03 AM

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Posted by YD* (Post 578670)
My friend just showed me this lol. But foreal tho, why would they talk about me speedhacking when Alumni is owned by a hacker himself? Why try and call me out for somethig I dont do when dante himself delays like crazy 😂 I swear he just said that cause I kept beating him repeatly. Stay in yo lane dante, stop worrying about others and MAYBE you wouldnt be hated by half of graal.

Honestly, I doubt dante is hated by half of graal that sounds like an overstatement but I will say he had no reason to call out on you guys like that. This is all really just a dumb problem that started from who knows what.

Yami 06-12-2015 02:06 AM

it's the people not mentioned whom are truly underrated.

KillMan most underrated.
http://puu.sh/ilxEw/0116a88a65.jpg

MikvaGraal 06-12-2015 02:10 AM

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Posted by Yami (Post 578676)
it's the people not mentioned whom are truly underrated.

KillMan most underrated.
http://puu.sh/ilxEw/0116a88a65.jpg

killman wasnt underrated? wtf

Zetectic 06-12-2015 02:14 AM

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Posted by Yami (Post 578676)
it's the people not mentioned whom are truly underrated.

KillMan most underrated.
http://puu.sh/ilxEw/0116a88a65.jpg

Honestly speaking of killman. kentaro. we keep forgetting that dude.

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 578680)
killman wasnt underrated? wtf

lolol true idk why ppl idolize him so much

MikvaGraal 06-12-2015 02:15 AM

kata and tritton are still the most underrated imo

Chun 06-12-2015 03:26 AM

I was also in dante's status about speedhacking. Now I am being called a speeder quite often and it kinda annoys me tbh.

Red 06-12-2015 03:45 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 578711)
I was also in dante's status about speedhacking. Now I am being called a speeder quite often and it kinda annoys me tbh.

Don't toggle it on then, its easy to tell that you do lmao.

MikvaGraal 06-12-2015 03:51 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 578718)
Don't toggle it on then, its easy to tell that you do lmao.

chun doesnt hack

Fulgore 06-12-2015 03:53 AM

It's like you people think we don't have eyes or a brain.

Red 06-12-2015 03:57 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 578723)
chun doesnt hack

So everyone is running normal speed while chun runs way quicker then them.
there are 2 explanations!
  1. Good PC! good FPS (theres no reason chun needs one because he can watch hentai on anything lmao)
  2. Cheating using the classic cheat engine!

Chun 06-12-2015 04:36 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 578726)
So everyone is running normal speed while chun runs way quicker then them.
there are 2 explanations!
  1. Good PC! good FPS (theres no reason chun needs one because he can watch hentai on anything lmao)
  2. Cheating using the classic cheat engine!

lol i like how even u can come up with 2 reasons(which is there can be much more) and u choose to believe in the second one because u mad i beat u in spar before?

MikvaGraal 06-12-2015 04:39 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 578734)
lol i like how even u can come up with 2 reasons(which is there can be much more) and u choose to believe in the second one because u mad i beat u in spar before?

its true everyone who beats him is a hacker you didnt know that??

Chun 06-12-2015 04:47 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 578725)
It's like you people think we don't have eyes or a brain.

It's just you guys rejected the underrated sparrers in your brains in the first place so you would come up with an excuse when you found out they are better than you thought.

There is also a reason I think might be why people think some people are moving faster. I hv noticed there are way more runners and lagger/delayer than before I stopped playing awhile ago. And that makes me(or some other people) to be more offensive and to move more , or aka "faster", to chase them while they are running and hugging their walls.

MikvaGraal 06-12-2015 04:48 AM

i still find it hilarious that none of these "hackers" have been warned or banned.
check mate

Chun 06-12-2015 04:50 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 578740)
i still find it hilarious that none of these "hackers" have been warned or banned.
check mate

flawed.

super kurosaki 06-12-2015 04:55 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 578740)
i still find it hilarious that none of these "hackers" have been warned or banned.
check mate

I mean some guy was speedhacking in front of 2 admins a few months back and they didn't do anything about it so...

MikvaGraal 06-12-2015 04:57 AM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 578744)
I mean some guy was speedhacking in front of 2 admins a few months back and they didn't do anything about it so...

lol *** up super

super kurosaki 06-12-2015 04:59 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 578747)
lol *** up super

Im serious tho man it was recorded and everythin

Fulgore 06-12-2015 05:16 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 578739)
It's just you guys rejected the underrated sparrers in your brains in the first place so you would come up with an excuse when you found out they are better than you thought.

There is also a reason I think might be why people think some people are moving faster. I hv noticed there are way more runners and lagger/delayer than before I stopped playing awhile ago. And that makes me(or some other people) to be more offensive and to move more , or aka "faster", to chase them while they are running and hugging their walls.

What you're trying to do is turn this into a "your word vs. my word" scenario. Using the statement "You're just mad cause you lost." doesn't help prove anything either. You can go around and talk to those who have sparred for years and they can tell you whether you are or aren't. Unless more observation by staff is put into this, that's the most accurate reading anyone will get, because any time someone is openly tested they can just toggle it off (Yes it's widely known that this can be done, in case anyone was surprised).

Chun 06-12-2015 05:32 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 578757)
What you're trying to do is turn this into a "your word vs. my word" scenario. Using the statement "You're just mad cause you lost." doesn't help prove anything either. You can go around and talk to those who have sparred for years and they can tell you whether you are or aren't. Unless more observation by staff is put into this, that's the most accurate reading anyone will get, because any time someone is openly tested they can just toggle it off (Yes it's widely known that this can be done, in case anyone was surprised).

so afterall it just an accusation based on 1 old player opinion. I only sparred dante 1 time and won that day. And i dont think or recall any of you guys were really watching it. That means you guys are possibly just blindly agree with an old player who might be having a bad day or weird internet. I serously thought Alumni is a grown up guild. But first is dante who accuses me for toggle after 1 short spar, then all the other members who trust him and blindly agree with him and start accusing me as well, and now talking like they are 100% right.

Fulgore 06-12-2015 05:36 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 578759)
so afterall it just an accusation based on 1 old player opinion. I only sparred dante 1 time and won that day. And i dont think or recall any of you guys were really watching it. That means you guys are possibly just blindly agree with an old player who might be having a bad day or weird internet. I serously thought Alumni is a grown up guild. But first is dante who accuses me for toggle after 1 short spar, then all the other members who trust him and blindly agree with him and start accusing me as well, and now talking like they are 100% right.

You are quick to assume that we judged it off of only one spar and only one player, which would be stupid. We aren't stupid.

Most likely won't reply again to this thread, as people are trying to start he said-she said arguments and arguments that demand trust of one side or the other. I'll leave it to a majority of the community that watches to decide. All we've done is warn them.

I only wish you never started, you were liked/respected/good beforehand anyways but threw all those opinions away.

Chun 06-12-2015 06:00 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 578762)
You are quick to assume that we judged it off of only one spar and only one player, which would be stupid. We aren't stupid.

Most likely won't reply again to this thread, as people are trying to start he said-she said arguments and arguments that demand trust of one side or the other. I'll leave it to a majority of the community that watches to decide. All we've done is warn them.

I only wish you never started, you were liked/respected/good beforehand anyways but threw all those opinions away.

Honestly, you guys should hv known how well respected is Alumni. People really believe what dante said in his status. They read it as fact, not a warning. I am not really the social type and talkative to people I dont really know, but I am really upset and annoyed this time. I didn't plan to say or do anything about it until I hv been called a cheater/speeder all day by random people today. They are people I hv never seen them in spar or anywhere in my graal life, and they already labeled me as a cheater. Even if there might be some people who didnt entire believe in dante, they already hv that kind of image of me in their mind when they see me, which means even the tiniest little server lag might make me warp a little and they will think "Oh, so thats how he cheats." And thank you for telling that i was liked/respected beforehand lol i didnt know that, but i think ur buddy dante hv already ruined it for me before i decided to talk about it in forum.

YD* 06-12-2015 06:02 AM

Last time I hacked was during 2012 when the gralat hack was still up. I got banned for a year & swore id never hack again. I dont have cheat engine on my computer. You guys have absolutely 0 prove that I even hack, if I did. All of you so called "pro" sparrers cant hang with me when yall dont lag. Like I stated earlier, I was at 77ms when I beat dante SEVERAL times while he only beat me once or twice. I dont got a problem with none of yall, but please get your information correct before you start stuff that isnt even remotely true.

Red 06-12-2015 06:04 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 578767)
Honestly, you guys should hv known how well respected is Alumni. People really believe what dante said in his status. They read it as fact, not a warning. I am not really the social type and talkative to people I dont really know, but I am really upset and annoyed this time. I didn't plan to say or do anything about it until I hv been called a cheater/speeder all day by random people today. They are people I hv never seen them in spar or anywhere in my graal life, and they already labeled me as a cheater. Even if there might be some people who didnt entire believe in dante, they already hv that kind of image of me in their mind when they see me, which means even the tiniest little server lag might make me warp a little and they will think "Oh, so thats how he cheats." And thank you for telling that i was liked/respected beforehand lol i didnt know that, but i think ur buddy dante hv already ruined it for me before i decided to talk about it in forum.

I was there when you sparred dante and the server was stable at the time. You ran faster then you're meant to be able too plain and simple.

YD* 06-12-2015 06:07 AM

Its like me starting rumors that thallen uses vpn to delay. Where the **** is my prove? Oh he was lagging bad one day because the server had 4k+ people on? Damn let me post that in my status real quick & have SLX post it in all of theirs. 😂

Chun 06-12-2015 06:10 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 578769)
I was there when you sparred dante and the server was stable at the time. You ran faster then you're meant to be able too plain and simple.

incase u hvnt noticed (tho many people should hv told u), u are laggy and delay in spar, so what u see as "stable" in ur screen might not be true.

Zetectic 06-12-2015 06:11 AM

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Posted by YD* (Post 578771)
Its like me starting rumors that thallen uses vpn to delay. Where the **** is my prove? Oh he was lagging bad one day because the server had 4k+ people on? Damn let me post that in my status real quick & have SLX post it in all of theirs. 😂

Yd ur gonna be a forum addict like me. 😂

Red 06-12-2015 06:15 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 578772)
incase u hvnt noticed (tho many people should hv told u), u are laggy and delay in spar, so what u see as "stable" in ur screen might not be true.

well how come everyone else who say you cheat saw it :). explain

Zetectic 06-12-2015 06:21 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 578774)
well how come everyone else who say you cheat saw it :). explain

Red i have one thing to confess..
Im dualkillerz 😂😂😂

Red 06-12-2015 06:23 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 578776)
Red i have one thing to confess..
Im dualkillerz 😂😂😂

ooo

Chun 06-12-2015 06:25 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 578774)
well how come everyone else who say you cheat saw it :). explain

i thought i already said it a few posts above lol i dont recall another calling "cheater" or "speeder" when i spar dante or right after i sparred him. So he was the only who thought i cheated at that time. Then people just read his status and accepted it. Therefore, the "everyone" in ur question doesnt not exist.

Red 06-12-2015 06:29 AM

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Posted by Chun (Post 578780)
i thought i already said it a few posts above lol i dont recall another calling "cheater" or "speeder" when i spar dante or right after i sparred him. So he was the only who thought i cheated at that time. Then people just read his status and accepted it. Therefore, the "everyone" in ur question doesnt not exist.

Actually, David and me were pming about you and maxy after the spar :) and as you most likely already know David is an old PC sparrer he can spot the difference between normal speed and a cheat :D

Chun 06-12-2015 06:36 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 578781)
Actually, David and me were pming about you and maxy after the spar :) and as you most likely already know David is an old PC sparrer he can spot the difference between normal speed and a cheat :D

All i can say is David was sadly wrong :/ I actually sparred him a few times in mixed spar not too long ago today. I wonder what he thinks

I dont think this is a place to argue about it. You can pm me on graal if you want to talk more about it. I am going off for today.

Darkk 06-12-2015 06:42 AM

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Posted by YD* (Post 578771)
Its like me starting rumors that thallen uses vpn to delay. Where the **** is my prove? Oh he was lagging bad one day because the server had 4k+ people on? Damn let me post that in my status real quick & have SLX post it in all of theirs. 😂

Where is my prove?!1!1

Kuz 06-12-2015 10:53 AM

To be honest when I spar Chun it's similar movements to sparring Thallen. They are super offensive so it looks like they go faster when they aren't really. Or maybe it's just my delay or their top tier PCs.

Ash Ketchum 06-12-2015 11:01 AM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 578812)
To be honest when I spar Chun it's similar movements to sparring Thallen. They are super offensive so it looks like they go faster when they aren't really. Or maybe it's just my delay or their top tier PCs.

There thing is about PC, is that you can use a speed hack, and won't be caught because there is no system that can track you.

Comyt 06-12-2015 04:18 PM

who just called killman underrated? dude was easily the most overrated japanese sparrer to ever play, and honestly wasn't even good in my opinion. never had a problem with him, ever. everyone worships him and i've seen him called "best gser of all time" a couple of times, though he sucked. decent dude though, no hate towards killman. just don't see why people worship him.

Ash Ketchum 06-12-2015 04:20 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 578879)
who just called killman underrated? dude was easily the most overrated japanese sparrer to ever play, and honestly wasn't even good in my opinion. never had a problem with him, ever. everyone worships him and i've seen him called "best gser of all time" a couple of times, though he sucked. decent dude though, no hate towards killman. just don't see why people worship him.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.cart...1a1e201727.jpg

Kuz 06-12-2015 04:22 PM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 578880)

++rep took the words right out of my mouth!

super kurosaki 06-12-2015 04:31 PM

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Posted by YD* (Post 578768)
Last time I hacked was during 2012 when the gralat hack was still up. I got banned for a year & swore id never hack again. I dont have cheat engine on my computer. You guys have absolutely 0 prove that I even hack, if I did. All of you so called "pro" sparrers cant hang with me when yall dont lag. Like I stated earlier, I was at 77ms when I beat dante SEVERAL times while he only beat me once or twice. I dont got a problem with none of yall, but please get your information correct before you start stuff that isnt even remotely true.

Just because you were at 77ms at that moment doesn't mean you were at 77 ms the whole time lol. Plus, what does your latency have to do with you supposedly speeding?


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