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Conquest 08-06-2015 02:05 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 601381)
Graal is still a zelda-type game, Antago is being extremely obnoxious.

Wouldn't you know!

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Posted by rickclops (Post 601378)
Graal was called Graal even when it used Zelda graphics. It was called Graal on the cyberjeuer website and when you opened the game. Players started calling it zelda online or java zelda later on.

Do you remember playing in my gserver play with Vangel? It was a play lol We had such good times <3

rickclops 08-06-2015 08:54 PM

I remember Vangel when he had dreads. My cyclops head came from the cancelled server Vangel was working on.

Conquest 08-07-2015 02:52 PM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 601698)
I remember Vangel when he had dreads. My cyclops head came from the cancelled server Vangel was working on.

RIGHT! He totally had dreads.I know in JF we were working on some big new world and stuff which I contributed to. It was never actually accomplished, but the FTP software Vangel created for it was slick.

GOAT 08-08-2015 04:01 AM

Thanks Clops, Contengo, and Antango for the show. You gave me something I can reference when somebody tries to compare the old pc community with the igraalers.

Freaking thallen feeling like a baby in the Pachuka thread :D

contego 08-08-2015 08:40 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 602190)
Thanks Clops, Contengo, and Antango for the show. You gave me something I can reference when somebody tries to compare the old pc community with the igraalers.

Freaking thallen feeling like a baby in the Pachuka thread :D

Clops + Antago = contego their lovechild, me! =)

But to be fair, they were both heavily induced that night so I'm their best mistake.

Thallen 08-08-2015 09:15 AM

I meant to post in the PACHUKA thread where everyone was having a ****-size competition over who played the longest and say that contego has probably played since however long he is claiming (since it had come into question?), because Shaded Legend was the very first playerworld I stuck with and I distinctly recall him being Manager at some point in time, probably 2000-2001ish

I think ArchAngel and then James205 followed, could be backwards since I have a bad memory, Sky also managed SL somewhere along that timeline
Can recall players like Biggi Chill, hrr4, Gafgarion, Fei, Ryu, Alma, Leon Beoulve, Blau Blau, TtTackler, benpoke103, Rusty, and a bunch of others

I was only 11 or 12 at that time and didn't really have an established name, went by a bunch of dumb garbage like "Illuzion" and "3RR0R" (cringe), but SL was probably my best memories of playing PC
PKing at onlinestartlocal and sparring at Rusty's is probably what got me interested in staying with the game
Server kind of started going downhill in maybe 2002 or 2003, whenever they added that tileset with the darkened grass

Anyway, there's not much merit to arguing the specifics of when someone played or taking pride in playing a few months before others, just thought I'd throw it out there anyway

Sardon 08-08-2015 09:47 AM

Oh this thread is hilarious

Seņor Albonio 08-08-2015 10:56 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 602275)
Oh this thread is hilarious

Just as hilarious as your attempts to trick us into thinking you're an oldfag.

Conquest 08-13-2015 05:05 PM

Is was an arrogant thieving 12 year young and a manipulative little liar obsessed with growing in power, glory, and prestige; I had no money, no friends or familial love, and a temperament. I had creative ideas and abilities, knowledge, curiosity, and Inquisitions. I was raised in an orthodox cult and abused even physically, who said that all ******s were going to hell, I was hiding from the crime and drugs all around me; I was miserable, and lonely, scapegoated and ashamed ... That is why people disliked me. For those I hurt, I ask for your forgiveness.

5hift 08-13-2015 05:27 PM

Is this the thread where we fight over Unixmad's inheritance money or something?

If so, good luck with that.

Spoiler
PS, none of you are special.

Basi 08-13-2015 07:44 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 604001)
Is was an arrogant thieving 12 year young and a manipulative little liar obsessed with growing in power, glory, and prestige; I had no money, no friends or familial love, and a temperament. I had creative ideas and abilities, knowledge, curiosity, and Inquisitions. I was raised in an orthodox cult and abused even physically, who said that all ******s were going to hell, I was hiding from the crime and drugs all around me; I was miserable, and lonely, scapegoated and ashamed ... That is why people disliked me. For those I hurt, I ask for your forgiveness.

:( <3

contego 08-13-2015 08:07 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 604001)
I had creative ideas and abilities, knowledge, curiosity, and Inquisitions.

Sincerely from me, and I'm sure the Graal community as a whole, thanks for your creativity and brilliance you contributed.

And just on a side note, no one's perfect (or everyone is?), I'm not judging.

Crono 08-13-2015 08:54 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 604001)
Is was an arrogant thieving 12 year young and a manipulative little liar obsessed with growing in power, glory, and prestige; I had no money, no friends or familial love, and a temperament. I had creative ideas and abilities, knowledge, curiosity, and Inquisitions. I was raised in an orthodox cult and abused even physically, who said that all ******s were going to hell, I was hiding from the crime and drugs all around me; I was miserable, and lonely, scapegoated and ashamed ... That is why people disliked me. For those I hurt, I ask for your forgiveness.

what the ****

Neil 08-13-2015 09:16 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 604073)
what the ****

stop being soskhildish krnko >:[

Conquest 08-15-2015 03:16 AM

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Posted by contego (Post 604062)
Sincerely from me, and I'm sure the Graal community as a whole, thanks for your creativity and brilliance you contributed.

And just on a side note, no one's perfect (or everyone is?), I'm not judging.

Aw, thank you <3 you so sweet. To be fair, I wasn't a "thief" or a "liar", I just had some major personal crises and explored hacking & piracy and stuff on the way to learning about computers & life. I was 12

Sardon 08-15-2015 03:25 AM

playing graal in the year 37 after christ
when I was hiding the holy graal

Conquest 08-15-2015 02:14 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 604617)
playing graal in the year 37 after christ
when I was hiding the holy graal

I am the Second Coming and the Holy Grail ;)

Ivy 08-15-2015 02:58 PM

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Posted by Bioboss (Post 600275)
Has anybody played graal since 1998 know anyone who has

I've been here since 1738

Unknown 08-16-2015 01:00 AM

When you realize Graal will outlive you. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7225/...50eab8_o_d.png

James205 08-16-2015 06:31 AM

This is a very very weird thread.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 602268)
I meant to post in the PACHUKA thread where everyone was having a ****-size competition over who played the longest and say that contego has probably played since however long he is claiming (since it had come into question?), because Shaded Legend was the very first playerworld I stuck with and I distinctly recall him being Manager at some point in time, probably 2000-2001ish

I think ArchAngel and then James205 followed, could be backwards since I have a bad memory, Sky also managed SL somewhere along that timeline
Can recall players like Biggi Chill, hrr4, Gafgarion, Fei, Ryu, Alma, Leon Beoulve, Blau Blau, TtTackler, benpoke103, Rusty, and a bunch of others

I was only 11 or 12 at that time and didn't really have an established name, went by a bunch of dumb garbage like "Illuzion" and "3RR0R" (cringe), but SL was probably my best memories of playing PC
PKing at onlinestartlocal and sparring at Rusty's is probably what got me interested in staying with the game
Server kind of started going downhill in maybe 2002 or 2003, whenever they added that tileset with the darkened grass

Anyway, there's not much merit to arguing the specifics of when someone played or taking pride in playing a few months before others, just thought I'd throw it out there anyway


Shaded Legend was approved late March of 2001 to go live. I remember developing the levels (which I also have the logs/dates for those too) in December 2000 into January and we got a super fast approval (I remember getting word from Contego and was super surprised). Antago is wrong on this and I still have all my old archives/PMs and logs but it doesn't matter (from that other weird thread). It's also weird to hear the name "Rusty" because he's my IRL brother haha.

I also throw my nomination in the ****-size competition of players who played during Zelda Online days

contego 08-16-2015 09:43 AM

wb James205!


Lmao@Shaded Leg...

Distorted_P2P 08-16-2015 09:48 AM

Some of these 'older' players are really oblivious lol...

Conquest 08-16-2015 10:44 AM

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Posted by James205 (Post 604981)
This is a very very weird thread.




Shaded Legend was approved late March of 2001 to go live. I remember developing the levels (which I also have the logs/dates for those too) in December 2000 into January and we got a super fast approval (I remember getting word from Contego and was super surprised). Antago is wrong on this and I still have all my old archives/PMs and logs but it doesn't matter (from that other weird thread). It's also weird to hear the name "Rusty" because he's my IRL brother haha.

I also throw my nomination in the ****-size competition of players who played during Zelda Online days

It's not that I'm wrong; I just questioned the validity. So provide us proof if you want; it's fine. Like I said, I don't care if I'm wrong, I just reserve the right to question given my knowledge

And this curiosity does not mean "Oh right! We proved you wrong you piece of ****!" It just means I admit I don't know and my doubts publicly to receive insight I consider valid from whoever cares

And FYI you TOO joined Graal forums in July not March so your estimation isn't proof to me either because I've encountered dozens of liars of all walks of life that your word isn't always enough. I don't see playerworlds being available so quickly but I simply don't care. I question not pretend to trump. Your "inherent" sovereignty doesn't mean anything considering I didn't know of you in March 2001. I only go off my experience, and I am allowed to speak thereof

Crono 08-16-2015 02:05 PM

Let's all hold dicks and reminisce about pre-P2P Graal.

xXziroXx 08-16-2015 03:00 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 605046)
Let's all hold dicks and reminisce about pre-P2P Graal.

what if we're already holding them?

Conquest 08-16-2015 04:22 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 605046)
Let's all hold dicks and reminisce about pre-P2P Graal.

It was definitely a very enchanted era; don't be jelly

Distorted_P2P 08-16-2015 06:42 PM

D) Inspire Change

Crono 08-16-2015 08:19 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 605064)
It was definitely a very enchanted era; don't be jelly

Got my fair share of nostalgia considering I'm pathetic enough to have actually played this from 2000 until now but you don't see me fapping about it.

Neil 08-16-2015 08:34 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 605064)
It was definitely a very enchanted era; don't be jelly


Conquest 08-16-2015 11:10 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 605147)
Got my fair share of nostalgia considering I'm pathetic enough to have actually played this from 2000 until now but you don't see me fapping about it.

Right. Reminiscing, gratitude, and inspiration are the work of ungracious egoists. Do you always look for opportunities to stomp others to look better by illusory contrast, or is it that you only play games not love them?

WaFFL3Cake 08-17-2015 05:45 AM

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Posted by contego (Post 600593)
@antago I started when the spawn location was just on the other side of Angel Clan right below the current Graal City bank. I didn't make it far since I had a 133mhz pc with AOL dial up. I was instantly PK'd at log in. I had started Graal as Shadow briefly, then I tried logging on as Xena. I remember when you died you respawned at that same place. Rarely could get far with the PK'rs because I moved sooooo slow until I made Xena and then killermech got me to safety(<3). Later in '99 I made contego and told everyone I was Xena.

what was the playercount like back then?

James205 08-17-2015 08:17 AM

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Posted by contego (Post 605002)
wb James205!


Lmao@Shaded Leg...

yoyoyo long time

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Posted by Ichor (Post 605006)
Some of these 'older' players are really oblivious lol...

true fact I owned the account 'ichor' on graal back in 2001... wonder if it still works. It was the actual name of my old graal website until I turned it into "Teral Online"

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Posted by antago (Post 605012)
It's not that I'm wrong; I just questioned the validity. So provide us proof if you want; it's fine. Like I said, I don't care if I'm wrong, I just reserve the right to question given my knowledge

And this curiosity does not mean "Oh right! We proved you wrong you piece of ****!" It just means I admit I don't know and my doubts publicly to receive insight I consider valid from whoever cares

And FYI you TOO joined Graal forums in July not March so your estimation isn't proof to me either because I've encountered dozens of liars of all walks of life that your word isn't always enough. I don't see playerworlds being available so quickly but I simply don't care. I question not pretend to trump. Your "inherent" sovereignty doesn't mean anything considering I didn't know of you in March 2001. I only go off my experience, and I am allowed to speak thereof

I don't blame you for questioning the the validity of it because you're right about one thing- a lot of players claim to have played way before than they truly have and stretch the facts, but it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. I don't know why they do or why it comes up constantly (it's not like the game was HUGE back in the day). But a lot of the people posting here are some of the more well known back in the day... so kind of sounds like you missed out on some stuff.

I joined the Graal forums before that and shared an account with Immitat0r, I was a poor kid back then and wasn't able to fork over the moneys for an account to post on the forums so I shared that account with Immitat0r before they made it against the rules.

As for 'proof' I'll have to look more but here is the original ZIP that was packaged for contego to be merged with Tyriel's levels (I archive EVERYTHING) which was then sent to Stefan:

http://i.imgur.com/sdJ3Szz.png

Details:
http://i.imgur.com/qDuZMq7.png

Inside Zip:
http://i.imgur.com/4Eu2kmV.png

I can look through logs of when I got word we got approved and launched but it was a really quick review... some might say maybe Stefan never looked at it and just said FINE WHATEVER APPROVED because we were very persistent to get it up. The conclusion is we aren't lying- I have no reason to lie about something like this.

The original area0... oh god what am I looking at:
http://i.imgur.com/3oZQKPY.png
http://i.imgur.com/5CBIGll.png

Fun fact- this was my PM logs with you (first one kind of a jerk response):
http://i.imgur.com/66TNOAU.png
http://i.imgur.com/AZq6nXq.png

Also found a video showing how much of a rebel/badass i was back in the day:


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Posted by Crono (Post 605046)
Let's all hold dicks and reminisce about pre-P2P Graal.

I'll never let go

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Posted by antago (Post 605064)
It was definitely a very enchanted era; don't be jelly

It was all fun but I do feel like some oldies talk about it a bit too much and treat it like they have some kind of entitlement :)

contego 08-17-2015 09:52 AM

@James205 - Shaded Legend to be re-released on fabcebook 03/16/2016? 15 years after original date. =) iSL

Ha I kid, however I was seriously considering committing to and continuing what we started a few months ago but the current PWA said I would have to pay for a server. "I would honor it being a classic and allowing you to upload it again but I never liked or played Shaded Legend and don't believe in it." -MysticalDragon PWA Admin. -.-

James205 was basically unofficially a co-manager at release because without him we would have never had anywhere near the levels completed. In fact I learned mostly how to level better from working with him. Truly one of the most brilliant minds I've come across and worked with. <3

Shaded Legend wouldn't have probably existed if it wasn't for James205, who knows. Tyriel, my old friend who opened SL w/ us, did the scripting for the intro but mostly stopped there. I know he got sidetracked with something irl so he shortly left after release, but an awesome guy and very talented.

P.S.
Please tell Rusty I said hello!
/longdistancehug

Crono 08-17-2015 11:30 AM

Ah yes, the road tiles rightclicked into dirt paths style.

James205 08-17-2015 06:08 PM

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Posted by contego (Post 605346)
"I would honor it being a classic and allowing you to upload it again but I never liked or played Shaded Legend and don't believe in it." -MysticalDragon PWA Admin. -.-

That is a terrible quote and why is there even PWA still? Is MysticalDragon from Delteria? I'm going to assume it's more geared for mobile/FB but it's probably one of the most pointless 'jobs' out there and has been for years. What I don't get is why do they still have completely unrealistic standards for PC Graal servers? Why not allow more flexibility to get on the server list... what would it possibly hurt? No one even plays PC Graal anymore, if the server is crappy then people just wont play it... but no one plays already?

contego 08-17-2015 09:55 PM

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Posted by James205 (Post 605474)
That is a terrible quote and why is there even PWA still? Is MysticalDragon from Delteria? I'm going to assume it's more geared for mobile/FB but it's probably one of the most pointless 'jobs' out there and has been for years. What I don't get is why do they still have completely unrealistic standards for PC Graal servers? Why not allow more flexibility to get on the server list... what would it possibly hurt? No one even plays PC Graal anymore, if the server is crappy then people just wont play it... but no one plays already?

If you ask me, I think he didn't want the competition. =p

Conquest 08-17-2015 10:59 PM

Graal will definitely go down in history as one of the first MMORPGs EVER. To me, I don't know what entitlement one would expect except the sheer exhilaration and laughter. The game is public to everyone, always has been; development as well.

James205 08-17-2015 11:00 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 605577)
Graal will definitely go down in history as one of the first MMORPGs EVER. To me, I don't know what entitlement one would expect except the sheer exhilaration and laughter. The game is public to everyone, always has been; development as well.

Just imagine if it actually had good management behind the game, it could've been a lot more.

Conquest 08-17-2015 11:02 PM

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Posted by James205 (Post 605580)
Just imagine if it actually had good management behind the game, it could've been a lot more.

This game is popping and it only gets better; it is destiny.

James205 08-17-2015 11:05 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 605583)
This game is popping and it only gets better; it is destiny.

I want to believe but I completely disagree with that. If managed right it could but with the current management it wont.

contego 08-17-2015 11:15 PM

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Posted by James205 (Post 605585)
I want to believe but I completely disagree with that. If managed right it could but with the current management it wont.

On the nose.

Conquest 08-18-2015 12:04 AM

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Posted by James205 (Post 605585)
I want to believe but I completely disagree with that. If managed right it could but with the current management it wont.

I've destroyed my artwork before; it was a terrible feeling. God won't destroy a monument such as this; but constructive criticism isn't bad if you really mean well

Luda 08-18-2015 12:33 AM

LEt's talk about pachuka

John 08-18-2015 01:39 AM

http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/p...-on-9b1d80.jpg

Unknown 08-18-2015 04:04 AM

Graal is a timeless game. It's had its highs and lows but it will outlive us all.

James205 08-18-2015 06:47 AM

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Posted by antago (Post 605599)
I've destroyed my artwork before; it was a terrible feeling. God won't destroy a monument such as this; but constructive criticism isn't bad if you really mean well

http://i.imgur.com/xEFlXmS.gif

rickclops 08-18-2015 05:40 PM

James, you're a jerk for keeping shaded levels, but not old spar videos.

Good luck negotiating with Mystical Dragon, I've worked with him before. He listens to about one or two people out of all of his staff.

James205 08-18-2015 05:46 PM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 605850)
James, you're a jerk for keeping shaded levels, but not old spar videos.

Good luck negotiating with Mystical Dragon, I've worked with him before. He listens to about one or two people out of all of his staff.

I do have old spar videos, tons... i actually sent you a lot of them a while back... maybe you forgot.

I have no intentions of neg/talking with MysticalDragon

rickclops 08-18-2015 05:57 PM

You did send them once, but I've reformatted since then. The next time I talked to you about them, you said they're gone. :( If you still have them I'll leave them on google drive forever now.

James205 08-18-2015 06:02 PM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 605858)
You did send them once, but I've reformatted since then. The next time I talked to you about them, you said they're gone. :( If you still have them I'll leave them on google drive forever now.

Yeah i still have them, will upload them when im back later tonight


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