I don't think you're in the top 400 sparrers and that is me being 100% honest.

waiting for a pm to spar at gh! and I'm saying theres about 10 pc sparers who i know are much better than me. Jack, David, Warhawk, PH8, Thallen, Dante, Brett, Zerros, Ares, and Highlander. Always gave me a hard time. But besides that exact list, nah. Oh last person to prove me wrong was Primetime a week ago when i lost 10-8. than again i was on PC so I'm still waiting on a rematch when i get on idev.
But ya anybody else who says otherwise, u know where to find me.

Nobody here challenged you personally. We just know you aren't the 11th best sparrer of all time, that notion is one of the most laughable serious notions that I have EVER seen.

oh and I'm not one of those idiots who thinks one series means everything. Im always ready for rematches if somebody thinks i fluke beat them, because i probably didn't.

did i say i was 11th best? no i just said that there are 10 clear sparers i will ADMIT are better. Anybody else hasn't proved it to me yet bec they haven't 1v1'd me enough, OR i wasn't impressed. Oh and Zideric.
Out of the 10 sparers i named, i only sparred Jack and Warhawk a lot. The rest i can just tell are better by seeing them spar. I mean of course theres sarah too, she is "better" than me. But nobody else stands out in my mind besides the people i mentioned.
and if you have somebody better in mind, that i haven't mentioned, they can spar me if they care enough to prove me wrong. Im open minded enough to admit somebody has me beat

Wow, Sparring is a complete sport to some people.

same qes as always, typing up a storm followed with "series me or don't talk" then making excuses when taking the L. give it a rest.

- a top 10 sparrer of all time ;)

I think Thallen would think about this in a similar way:

If you struggle against warhawk.. lol good luck.

Not sure why people, 'specially kids, are so cocky these days. =\

Comyt you've been irrelevant in 1vs1 for like 3 years now

This is an opinion. But i do agree GST has made me only want to guild spar. But there individual skill in Guild spar its not just a team carry everyone has to do there part. But i also do agree that if there was 1v1 or even 2v2 tourneys it would bring back the 1v1
Drive

And qes i do like you im not gna hate but next time your online I'm challenging you

I feel like I'm in the top 5 sparrers of all time. Only a few can challenge me, such as Demrow, Leaf, Ben, Thallen and Comyt.

What if Comyt is Qes?

Not possible he needs to be the "top tier" idev sparrer to be qes

Okay so what I mean by GST not having individual skill was this-
Knaws(VIS) constantly trash talks to me saying how I'm A joke at spar because I haven't won GST. And I tell him to 1v1 me and he just continues talking Smack instead.
So, If VIS beats DoT 5vs5, that does not mean S**** beat me or is better than me. 1vs1 is the only way to prove one individual can beat another.
And toich I wish everybody would challenge me rathe than assume their better because I havent won't a GST.
(Meanwhile I've been in three gsts the past three years)
(Meanwhile I win most of my series, and when I don't its 10-8/10-9 or it's against somebody I mentioned in my list of spatters I find much better than me)
Like comyt talking trash about me complaining.hypocrit, when me and comyt series'd to 5 in 2013, I won 5-3, then he wanted to extend it to 10 bec he was being a little baby, and I lost 10-8. Not that this information matters, comyt will be comyt and denie it. Or he will interrupt it a different way than it really happened, my point is I hold myself to A high regard in 1vs1 because nobody I'm always ready to spar. like Jack(WAR)

to quote dante

"I think you would benefit from taking a break from Graal and using that time that you'd spend gaming to work on other activities such as meditation and exercise to clear your mind from all of this."

thats a cute quote. My mind is chillen. I just play this game to wreck in spar

Qes u need to calm down bro why are all of a sudden making such a big deal over all this. Your putting GST down and everyone involved with it down as well. There is a lot of skill in 1v1 just because of the GST the skill of guild spar is just looked to be greater because thats what everyone wants

Im not making a big deal... this are my opinions about spar.. you don't have to like them. I like GST and i think everybody should be good at guildspar. Just think people should stop basing spar skill entirely on GST when great players never won GST.
like great PC players like Jack never won. Enmity, Ph8, etc
yet enmity and jack would probably wreck 90% of gst winners 1v1. All I'm saying is y'all suck and I'm good. Thats it. Lmao

honestly everything is all talk and nonsense
I spar on BOTH pc and idevice now. I WRECK the same people on both pc AND idevice and i LOSE to the same people on pc and idev. In 2012 all ideas' were so dumb we thought PCS had super powers or something. In 2015 if you HONESTLY believe you lost bec they are on pc, or bec they delay, or bec they lag. Its your fault
I complain to troll people but if i lose to you in a series, i will tell people you beat me and i want to try again. Nothing wrong with that. A lot of people on graal are just too anti social in real life to realize when I'm joking and when I'm being serious. And i do regard myself as top 10 device for 1v1 because 10 idevice people haven't proven me wrong. And for PC sparers theres so many skilled PCs but only 10-15 are so DEFINITELY better than me, and legendary status (my opinions, notice i went from 10 to 15 because i noticed i was wrong and there are more legendary PCS than i thought)
now if anybody cares to read this cool and if not, stay ignorant

@clops i am aware that you do not like me but please take that back, qes is like the lowest of the low and i feel very insulted.

@qes every series should be to 10 and never in my "graal career" would i accept a "series to 5" as it is ridiculous, 10 wins gives both players enough time to adapt to each other to truly see who is better.

agreed with david though which is odd, you're taking this game way too seriously right now and i recommend taking a break (not going on another account and becoming green lantern or something since spiderman is taken).

u write like leaf and leaf always talk about you and thallen.

qes now u are putting them under the pressure.

You're a very talented spatter

my apologies for using all lowercase letters, i will not change though.

Typing like this annoys me and looks snobby.

so no thanks.

okay so comyt, you were the one who wanted it to 5 bec u had to go soon then you said to 10 bec you lost. I agree 10 is proper but i won first then you won after bishing to change it
And no... The people who log on and socialize like best friends take this game to serious. I just enjoy being real and sparing. Comyt you talk everyday on this forum like your still good at spar when I haven't seen you streak in years. For all I know your still top 5 IDEv, but unless you prove it, I see you as insignificant as any other sparrer who quit

idk what you're thinkin' about but if i "had to go soon" i wouldn't even series and would just leave right there, and still would never desire a series to 5. i actually remember this instance you're talking about (1 of like 3 series i beat you in AKA all of them) since i have photographic memory, and recall you and your buddies asking for it to be to 5 and me chillin' there like "no shut up 5 is stupid we're going to 10 or it isn't a proper series" then being annoyed at 5 when you're acting like it's over after we just agreed to 10 a few minutes prior to it.

either way bro i won to 10 and you can't even pretend you won that in any way, if you actually had me at "5-3" and it finished "10-8" (doubt it was that close), then damn i just won that "series to 7" pretty convincingly gg..

i don't feel a need to prove myself and i'm "irrelevant" because i'm in college, not about to come online and spar every day when i'm busy chillin' with the squad.

alright big bois.
series after the gst? i record, u two face each other

refuse = ***** :D

Record me and qes series

This community can be so toxic sometimes

u don't need to even ask me just say "series" while I'm online lmao

Nah, just certain people.

will refuse every series unless i'm warming up for something so i guess these super offensive asterisks apply to me!

Qez best idevice

You both say similar things about yourselves.

posted this hoping to ruffel some feathers and have people spar more because all people do is sit around and talk. things have gotten a little better. Oh and since i posted this i lost to Hmong 10-9(also beat him 10-9 previously). and got rekt by brett as i expected. Still waiting on other regular spars or series challenges. Hope i make u mad tbh

With the server lag you're expecting too much.

Ur talking about VIS arnt u

The games always been more social than serious, still don't understand why you feel inclined towards people being 'required' to spar....

think socializing on a video game all day is unhealthy. when i notice thats all I'm doing i make sure i spar and just log off

So after reading this entire thread, Qes wants people to not get along and 1v1 him all the time?
Correct me if I'm wrong but anyone has the potential to beat everyone you've named, David, Thallen etc. theyre all beatable. They are good but they aren't gods, thats a silly excuse to make people 1v1 more. Also I have seen people reject you before but everytime you got beaten regardless if your on PC or Idevice (Does it matter?) you either kicked, blocked, or hated them.
I remember going in your GH sparring you, winning even after you cheapshotted me as I was responding to you, and then getting into a heated argument about you saying "my iphone is broken a bit" I believed you, but I was told to keep getting you mad in a friendly way till you kicked me and blocked me ofcourse.
Bottom line, 1v1 is still largely common, GST makes people wanna GS more which is natural and theres nothing you can do about it but make 1v1 seem more fun to others like what crimes doing, 1v1 Tourneys.

Couldnt help but respond to this. Everyone on the game is judged by how they play, positively and negatively. Several losses could make people downgrade you in their own ways, boosting, evading challenges, dragging down a team in GS (like afking). People judge Sarah all due to her delay. Not everyone kisses anyones ass aswell, unless you think they do, keep it to yourself if they wanna kiss ass let them. "Zeross is a great player" If thats not ass kissing what is.

I'm guessing the sparring community is the meanest community on the server.

idk those rp'ers can be mean too :(

I'd say it's just a select amount of people, not the majority.

Name and shame!

Livid I spar so many people everyday in my gh and I never block or kick anybody unless there's a reason to. You were being an ass, anybody who was there saw you trying to troll me by constantly saying how my phone wasn't broken and how I was a liar when I was clearly freezing every 10 seconds for a long ass time. And u were saying I was freezing on purpose? Which makes no sense. Whatever regardless you were treated the way you were because you wanted to keep argueing about it and I didn't so I just blocked you and sparred somebody else who could wait for me to unfreeze rather then say I was freezing on purpose

only game where you don't get judged by skill
Thought what I meant was obvious. I was going off about how all people do is chatt all day rather than spar. So by saying it's the only game where you aren't judged by skill I just meant people judge eachother by social skills and reputation even more than they care about skill WHICH IS WEIRD.
Legit graal sparrers care more about social reputation than skill. (Maybe I'm wrong) but I'm just making statements hoping to change this weird society where alot of people play 4 hours a day but spar 5-20 times per day at most

and there's a difference between saying it like it is and bein mean/stupid
If I were to say, sarah sucks she only wins because of delay. That would be mean and false. Sarah is obviously good with or without delay.
Now if I were to say Sarah's delay contributes to her insane ratio, and without it she probably wouldn't have the crazy ratio she has. That would just be straight up a real opinion that many might agree with.

If I were to say I'm the 11th best sparrer ever, that would be false(I never said that I just need to be more desciptive I guess because nobody can read what I said correctly)
I named a list of sparrers who are definitely better than me from what I see. Then I said if anybody else wants to prove to be better than me, whenever I'm online Ill be ready if you want to series or just spar a bunch.

Also another mis conception is that I think everybody should just spar me. no. My opinion is that on the off season of GST (every day before and after gst) people should 1vs1 and guild spar more. People want prizes?
Okay so you want a hat on a video game. That's cool I guess but if that's your only motive to spar, I'm confused. It's just a hat. I spar to try my best to dominate 1vs1, I don't see why you need a stupid hat prize for motivation

Qes many of us have been playing for years and spar is not as interesting as it once was. U can see all those new guys sparing 24/7 but threw time things change

I've been sparring for 5 years. When I get bored of sparring I work on my guild DoT. I guess I'm different..? I don't see how the feeling winning spars gives you can go away

I agree with what you're trying to do, but I disagree with how you'e going about doing it. I too would like to see the sparring community flourishing again, but insulting people, or trying to tell people that their way of playing Graal is "wrong" doesn't accomplish anything.

Graal is designed to be social, as well as competitive. I don't understand why you make it seem like doing anything other than sparring is a waste of time. You can hide behind the notion that "it's just my opinion", but that doesn't explain why you express said opinion as fact.

Personally I enjoy towering and pking. Not as much as sparring, but they're a nice change when the server isn't doing so well. Calling these things a "waste of time" is a pretty egotistical thing to say, implying that sparring is the only thing worth doing on Graal.

Other than that, feel free to send me a guild house invite if you'd like to series. Our last series was interrupted at 3-3 I believe by horrible server lag.

I'm still trying to figure out where QeS gets this idea that the only way the spar community can function is if everyone are huge assholes.

It was never like that on original PC Graal - as you can see from iClassic with most of the old players knowing each other and chatting frequently, even if they've been away for years. I came back and logged into iClassic for the first time in January and immediately met up with like 10-15 people who I knew in the old days and none of them were assholes, then or now.

Not everybody are huge assholes right now, clearly, or nobody would be arguing with QeS about this in the first place.

So where is this attitude even coming from? If this really was ever a thing, only thing I can fathom is that the iDevice community before a bunch of PC players started playing iClassic used to be essentially a bunch of huge assholes. But even then, knowing nothing about the community and not even knowing who played iClassic back then and who didn't, I highly doubt that was the case...

So QeS, want to enlighten us? Where did you get this completely flawed view of iClassic where every sparrer (especially the good ones,) were apparently massive assholes to eachother 24/7 and never communicated except to say "1v1"??? Because I'm really confused. And no, "QeS and a single digit amount of other people" is not indicative of the whole spar community.

I mean towering is fun and all but they should re do the system to make it more competitive and make it so members stay with the same guild. The whole 1k hours thing has gone on for too long.
Nothing wrong with PK if that's what your into, ATLEAST your not wasting time socializing with people you don't know irl all day long and never actually doing anything in graal.(like most of graal does)

I bet chicks like you Qes.. like seriously.

You're soo coolll.. for sparring like in a game, while you cannot run a block.. waow.. m8 fite me irl hand to hand combat, i workout thrice a week, fite me bsh. jk

@Albie you said it best, qes is a very talented at sparring.

@qes at one point I used to be very cocky in my prime in early 2000, after I was in Demigod and Messiah, I was telling people I was the best and challenged everyone online so I could prove it to myself. Back then the player count was much smaller obviously, however this game has always been a social one for me. Without it being social it wouldn't be as popular or come near as far as it has imo. Sparring isn't all Graal is about to the general population. Don't get me wrong, I personally don't really enjoy much else except sparring and social part. But keep in mind, it's okay to have friendly competition. =) (Not trying to preach, js.)

Either your math is wrong or you're a liar. I remember doing 2vs2 with you, mono(<3), and mimi(<3) in 2011 and you claiming you were a 2011 newbie.