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Kuz 04-25-2016 09:12 PM

So i'm guessing...R.I.P iUN?

Relic 04-26-2016 03:42 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 698323)

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It's pretty embarrassing to see a community so fearful of someone when the extent of what he can do is resolve IP through a Skype username (can't even do that anymore) and paste it into a UDP flooder that he probably pays $5/month for.
Oh my god, finally, somebody in this community who understands... Script kiddies shouldn't be feared, they should be laughed at... Who is that Soul guy?

LeNoobicus 04-26-2016 03:58 PM

Is there any chance UN might get fixed? o:

Zetectic 04-26-2016 04:24 PM

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Posted by LeNoobicus (Post 699175)
Is there any chance UN might get fixed? o:

what else is broken?

John Rocker 04-26-2016 04:58 PM

Who cares, the past 10 years every time I've logged onto UN, all it is is a bunch of 20 years old acting dumber than the 12 year olds they criticize for playing Classic, and the staff keeps players around who cause real problems for the server, while people like T3CK who bring substance and entertainment instead of UN's same boring non-events are banned and jailed almost immediately.

This guy Carlito, who I have no idea who he is but from what I have seen is another idiot, actually did the 9 or 10 players who have been hanging on for years a favor by doing this, now hopefully those people can go get jobs and get out of their parents' basement at 25 years old spending their allowance on Cheetos and Mountain Dew.

Sure there's a few players I'd like to see come to Classic, I am on there for an hour or so a day but at least there's more players on Classic, not 2 or 3 idiots massing about their guild that is nowhere near as sweet as the nWo.

Stowen 05-04-2016 12:37 AM

Just to clear some air with my name, I am going to post this. Probably going to get me hacked and flamed by Ramza and crew, but I don't really give a **** at this point. My name has been forever tarnished by this bull****.

When I became Manager for the third time, Carlito knew I had a connection with Ramza. Secretly via Skype he asked me to "spy" on the group by joining and leaking him information on their plans. Skype doesn't save my conversation that far back, but here is a portion in which he tells me to "show them" he has a discord:

[1/18/2016 8:39:23 PM] Carlitoo: I got a partnership
[1/18/2016 8:39:24 PM] Carlitoo: witht hem
[1/18/2016 8:39:28 PM] Carlitoo: where in a call now
[1/18/2016 8:39:33 PM] Carlitoo: waiting for it to break up :P
[1/18/2016 8:39:47 PM] Stow****: Discord??
[1/18/2016 8:39:52 PM] Carlitoo: yea
[1/18/2016 8:40:01 PM] Carlitoo: example
[1/18/2016 8:40:07 PM] Stow****: Oh nice dude
[1/18/2016 8:40:29 PM] Carlitoo: https://gyazo.com/ad951b65dc4bb399f39dbffab2611535
[1/18/2016 8:40:35 PM] Carlitoo: you can show them if you want
[1/18/2016 8:40:36 PM] Carlitoo: lol

Carlito knew from DAY ONE I was in the Skype group, it was solely under his direction, otherwise I wouldn't have gone anywhere near Ramza and crew. He wanted me to leak their plans to him.

When Ramza started hacking him + Graal more and more, which I alerted him about 90% of the time, he had nobody to pin it on so he decided to pin it on me, and started saying I was "helping them".

Here's a snippet from the Skype chat logs I still have in which I clearly defend myself to him:

[1/16/2016 10:22:40 PM] Carlitoo: about hashing his ip
[1/16/2016 10:22:45 PM] Carlitoo: he was saying he was using you
[1/16/2016 10:22:50 PM] Carlitoo: to figure out the detections
[1/16/2016 10:23:00 PM] Carlitoo: now I really don't have ay staff finding out its him
[1/16/2016 10:23:08 PM] Carlitoo: have any issues
[1/16/2016 10:23:20 PM] Carlitoo: I trusted you
[1/16/2016 10:23:24 PM] Carlitoo: big disapointment
[1/16/2016 10:23:29 PM] Stow****: Are you kidding me dude
[1/16/2016 10:23:42 PM] Stow****: You aren't hashing his IP, I was throwing him off
[1/16/2016 10:23:47 PM] Stow****: Either way
[1/16/2016 10:23:58 PM] Stow****: Hashing his IP or not, it's still the same IP
[1/16/2016 10:24:19 PM] Stow****: I've been throwing him off your detections since the day they added me to that chat
[1/16/2016 10:24:32 PM] Stow****: Simply to be on the "in" to know what the **** is going on
[1/16/2016 10:24:43 PM] Stow****: And then Shannon comes and ****s it all up
[1/16/2016 10:24:52 PM] Stow****: But sure
[1/16/2016 10:25:02 PM] Stow****: Go ahead and listen to her >.>
[1/16/2016 10:25:29 PM] Stow****: From all the time and effort I've put into UN, do you HONESTLY think I'm going to compromise it's security?
[1/16/2016 10:26:19 PM] Stow****: I've banned him several times simply because he said in Skype that he was on UN
[1/16/2016 10:26:22 PM] Stow****: and I had no idea
[1/16/2016 10:26:39 PM] Stow****: So don't tell me I'm working with him
[1/16/2016 10:26:42 PM] Stow****: You know what he did to me
[1/16/2016 10:26:59 PM] Carlitoo: doesn't matter stowen man that's kinda ****ed up
[1/16/2016 10:27:02 PM] Carlitoo: sending him rc chats
[1/16/2016 10:27:16 PM] Stow****: Well I had to do something to make it seem like I'm helping them
[1/16/2016 10:27:25 PM] Stow****: Leaking harmless RC chat was the best bet
[1/16/2016 10:27:39 PM] Stow****: It's like I leaked your game plans, or NaS updating weps
[1/16/2016 10:27:42 PM] Stow****: *not like
[1/16/2016 10:28:00 PM] Stow****: It was simple "If anybody see's Ramza on BAN HIM" kind of stuff
[1/16/2016 10:28:43 PM] Stow****: Every bit of info on "getting around detections" I gave him sent him in the opposite direction

Any "info" I gave him on getting around detections was false, and sent him in the wrong directions. I put a LOT of time and effort into UN's detection systems to compromise them for Ramza.

So to clarify if I'm "with" Ramza + crew, I AM NOT. Alot of false information got spread around from people who were in the group that had no idea I was undercover for Carlito. Including some stuff that Snoopy had posted on the official forums. Snoopy was just as adamant about Unholy Nation as I was, and he was unaware that I was spying on the group for Globals, so the logs that Snoopy saw naturally looked horrible. I would have done the same thing in his situation. Same goes for Shannon.

After Unholy Nation got hacked by Ramza the first time, and taken offline, I was the reason it got brought back. I reasoned with Carlito, and reached out to Ph8. I knew that if there was anybody other than myself to manage that server it was Ph8. Ph8 agreed that if Carlito allowed it, he would become Manager. I fought with Carlito for a full 24 hours to get Unholy Nation back online under Ph8's supervision. Now why would I do something like that if I was behind the attacks? Good question.

Many of you don't believe me, or don't care to believe me. But after my little break from Graal over the past few months, I felt the need to finally defend myself, and my name. For those of you that still believed me after all was said and done, I thank you very much for the support. I put too much time and effort into that server to personally destroy it. You can thank Ramza + crew for that.

Red 05-04-2016 01:09 AM

Sad to see your name has been tarnished by this moronic pwa

Just browsing through the 2 threads on UN on the official forums reveals how secretive the pwa's try to make this look, Darlene (I think that is her name) seems like some ego maniac who goes around with a stick up her arse banning anyone who actually cares enough about their favorite server to ask WHY Carlito can do this sort of thing without consequence and if its official why did he not release any statement as to why he would do this.

Sardon 05-04-2016 05:39 AM

wether you love or hate un this situation is still bull.
The server had plans for a fb release it was doing well.
Idc who runs the server at this point I just want to see this server back together in some form.

We should make some kind of petition and spam unixmad
We need stoweiner.

iDarkness 05-04-2016 07:27 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 698145)
Carlito is in charge of iZone now...

RIP Zone.

Distorted_P2P 05-04-2016 07:36 AM

Shame to see a server with so many memories and so many individuals who worked on it crumble because of a few morons who didn't even care about the server (other than fuz, she's just stupid lol).

Guess UN went out with one final drama-filled hoorah, just like it would have wanted :'(:(

Skyzer 05-05-2016 09:00 AM

Why are global admins the managers of servers?

Crono 05-05-2016 12:30 PM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 702224)
Why are global admins the managers of servers?

because pc graal doesnt matter

Stowen 05-07-2016 11:48 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 702239)
because pc graal doesnt matter

This right here.

Crono 05-08-2016 11:09 AM

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Posted by Stowen (Post 702954)
This right here.

👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌**** right👌👌there👌👌👌

Reno 05-10-2016 09:48 AM

:( Poor UN. It was a great server once

WaFFL3Cake 06-14-2016 01:59 PM

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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 698346)

Wish i was there

Crono 06-14-2016 02:36 PM

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Posted by WaFFL3Cake (Post 714217)
Wish i was there

you really dont

Distorted_P2P 06-14-2016 02:42 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 714221)
you really dont

RIP UN

WaFFL3Cake 06-14-2016 09:15 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 714221)
you really dont

No man i loved UN. The other playerworld servers werent ever as fun for me as UN was. I think it wouldve been neat to be at the last event there

Skyzer 06-15-2016 02:57 AM

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Posted by WaFFL3Cake (Post 714263)
No man i loved UN. The other playerworld servers werent ever as fun for me as UN was. I think it wouldve been neat to be at the last event there

no... no.

Sardon 06-15-2016 03:50 AM

We should get ahold of the backups,buy a server and put all of the levels graphics ganis and sounds from un onto the new server

WaFFL3Cake 06-15-2016 01:39 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 714337)
We should get ahold of the backups,buy a server and put all of the levels graphics ganis and sounds from un onto the new server

I think if anyone did decide to create a new unholy server, it should have the same jobs, quest ideas, events, but finish the new gmap. It's been a project for years and rather than just recreating UN exactly the way it was, something different be done with the levels at the bare minimum. Besides, if there was a UN Copy, carlito would probably terminate the project early on. We'd need to try and do things somewhat differently, while keeping the classic feel UN had.

Distorted_P2P 06-15-2016 03:53 PM

because there is no censorship
other than colon

this is the only place I can say this
don't delete colon

**** Carlito

Oasa 06-15-2016 05:55 PM



Carlito messed with the bull and indeed got the horns and it was all the UN players that hurt from it.

Totally worth.

Sardon 06-16-2016 07:58 PM

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Posted by WaFFL3Cake (Post 714380)
I think if anyone did decide to create a new unholy server, it should have the same jobs, quest ideas, events, but finish the new gmap. It's been a project for years and rather than just recreating UN exactly the way it was, something different be done with the levels at the bare minimum. Besides, if there was a UN Copy, carlito would probably terminate the project early on. We'd need to try and do things somewhat differently, while keeping the classic feel UN had.

lets use the new gmap and new tileset and call it
Holy nation

Khai 06-16-2016 10:45 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 714701)
lets use the new gmap and new tileset and call it
Holy nation

dam

Stowen 06-17-2016 01:15 AM

I miss you, Unholy Nation :(

Skyzer 06-17-2016 03:06 AM

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Posted by Stowen (Post 714814)
I miss you, Unholy Nation :(

Shhhh, shhhh. Quiet, now. Shhhh. That's right. Just go to sleep. Just like that. Quiet. Shhhh.

Reno 06-17-2016 03:33 AM

UN has always had one or more questionable staff members for a very long time.

I'm not surprised that eventually idiots got more power than they should have had and it all came crashing down but it's a terrible shame that the server had to pay for PWA and global staff mistakes.

As for the removal of all staff, it's entirely possible that he was ordered to do it, but it wouldn't surprise me either if it was something he decided himself.

Normal everyday staff are always caught in the crossfire of management mistakes.

Ph8 06-19-2016 01:20 PM

So why do we think Carlito is still going on UN's RC? lol

http://i68.tinypic.com/2zedohh.png

WaFFL3Cake 06-19-2016 02:24 PM

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Posted by Ph8 (Post 715787)
So why do we think Carlito is still going on UN's RC? lol

Pretend like he's busy so he doesnt have to work on delteria

Distorted_P2P 06-19-2016 04:09 PM

now they're trying to replace the last classic server with N-Pulse but they hired some of the noobiest developers I've ever seen run a server, ever

rip PC Graal you're ****ing screwed with this management

Zetectic 06-19-2016 04:11 PM

just add iclassic to the client server list lolz

Crono 06-19-2016 09:08 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 715818)
just add iclassic to the client server list lolz

but then the pc client would actually be useful

DanteGraal 06-19-2016 09:35 PM

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Posted by Ph8 (Post 715787)
So why do we think Carlito is still going on UN's RC? lol

http://i68.tinypic.com/2zedohh.png

Reminiscing the time he delivered the coup de grāce to Unholy Nation.
please post in my awesome osh thread ph8

Stowen 06-22-2016 06:48 PM

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Posted by Ph8 (Post 715787)
So why do we think Carlito is still going on UN's RC? lol

http://i68.tinypic.com/2zedohh.png

To use UN's scripts and light effects for Delteria. He asked me all the time if he could use UN's content.

PumaD 06-25-2016 11:24 PM

According to unixmad they're working on bringing back UN.

Skyzer 06-25-2016 11:25 PM

Just hurry up and kill the client.

Thallen 06-26-2016 02:29 PM

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140528072653

WaFFL3Cake 06-26-2016 03:01 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 717898)

We like it too much

SammyPs 06-26-2016 03:41 PM

Pretty sure UN no longer exists so how is this thread still up

Distorted_P2P 06-26-2016 04:07 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 702239)
because pc graal doesnt matter

can confirm PC Graal doesn't matter anymore
https://gyazo.com/28e75d725eff8b5e60e159ca352f9bb3.png
**** carlito

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Posted by SammyPs (Post 717919)
Pretty sure UN no longer exists so how is this thread still up

this thread is literally about UN no longer existing PLEASE just stop

Sardon 06-26-2016 06:08 PM

Playerworlds could make graal more money if they redid the graal shop and added more useful stuff.

Oasa 06-27-2016 12:16 AM



Move on people.

WaFFL3Cake 06-30-2016 03:07 PM

http://i.imgur.com/v44DP9o.png
im not asking for much, just please, someone buy this from me

Skyzer 07-01-2016 02:43 AM

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Posted by WaFFL3Cake (Post 719174)
http://i.imgur.com/v44DP9o.png
im not asking for much, just please, someone buy this from me

You can drop hats, yeah? Just do that.

Distorted_P2P 07-01-2016 03:10 AM

LOL UN is still dead wtf

Thallen 07-01-2016 07:03 PM

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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 719430)
LOL UN is still dead wtf

it was dead before you even knew it existed you clingy year-2014 UN fanboy

Skyzer 07-01-2016 11:30 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 719682)
it was dead before you even knew it existed you clingy year-2014 UN fanboy

YEAH!

Sylvi 07-06-2016 07:30 AM

sad un went down it was my favorate server when i was a kid until i met era (was fun af starting out with shotgun / uzi / handgun rofl


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