I wonder if they will do anything like these

Tower Rotation
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31633

Longest Hold
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29718

They probably won't. Maybe they will have payouts at the end of each season? That would keep members loyal to guilds.

Hyped, and hopefully not disappointed.

*News has been updated*

Graal: "We have now incorporated seasonal trophies for the top 50 gui..."

Me: I'm outta here. Peace.

Haha, no, not trophies.

By payout, I meant points. Points used to buy things for guilds. Keeps people active and loyal for guilds if it were seasonal. But it's just a guess.

Can pass college courses? Yes

Can know how long an hour is? No way

I actually love that idea. And each season each item is exclusive, so spend your points wisely.

asked someone reliable and they said it applies to all rewards
doubt it matters though because by the time anyone were to get 5k or 10k, the new system would probably be out

inb4 "we were real guilds before the new reward system was introduced."

This is a great idea. Sick of chain guilds , no guilds actually work hard for 1k anymore anyways. 90% of the members and in each hatlist already have a 1k hat , and a new system which doesn't leave everything in the hands of the leader is good. Seen too many people get scammed cuz leaders don't know how to fairly distribute hat. Also hopefully truces will die now , and towering won't just be about a popular leader getting all his/her friends to help them or get their guild jump started by another 1k that just finished. Very few guilds have had to fight that hard for 1k recently , once a home is established , it's pretty smooth , I'm glad I lead a 1k which saw many members get their first hat , and spend it without truces or a Home until 900h plus.. idk how the current towerers don't get bored when the guild they are in is only a shade different to the last one they were in.

Good update for once , maybe it will encourage players with nothing to do to participate in towering

They should also add tower pk awards as well as guild awards to increase competition as well as activity. I take it that's what fp4 and Rufus are going for? Even Tho the way the pk leaderboard has gone doesn't show it lol. Don't see why everything constantly needs To be changed...addition is great , change isn't , becoming dedicated to a certain aspect of this game then having it changed and basically made easier for less skilled players is crap lol...hopefully they will actually increase competition in towers next update...and pk awards would be much appreciated as I would have an incentive to pk for myself , not for a leaderboard filled with people who ruin it and make it about activity and timezone and absolutely nothing to do with skill. Competition in pk and towering is already dead so might as well make it more personal with individual rewards

I'm still unsure about this if point just go on if you was in guild how would they know if someone got recruited early on and helped or right near the end(also they may have helped more but got kicked alot), I think for pk/spar/baddy wise is good but then for guilds having no forttime for points?would be odd but would work guildwise for gspar

-Regashi joined the game
4:15hours daily needed to hit 1k this month

Synx 99% chance; would only fail if somehow leadership was transferred away.
ZigZag 75% chance; is perhaps the weakest guild on the board, often seem to be exploited for doubles.
Sangue 75% chance; are active enough and seem to have a big group.
BFMR 20% chance; only seem to tower mod and often are getting doubled off of by illusive.
Assertive 20% chance; seemingly won't make it without a massive influx of members.
Talon 30% chance; homes dw, is decently active, but has a very large gap to overcome.
illusive 70% chance; has a massive member count, but has the largest amount of hours needed; probably will succeed at their current pace
Regashi 80% chance; way too few hours needed to see them failing.

Borrowed twilit's list and edited it with percentage amounts(ofc all from my perspective).

Don't forget that Regashi's leader is banned. That is a factor. Plus there technically are no leads due to the inability to distribute powers.

Imo they all should succeed.

Starting from today:
- The maximum time the 6 towers will give during the 27 days is 3888 h.
- Time left for each relevant tower guild:
Synx: 146 h
ZigZag: 227 h
Sangue: 284 h
Regashi: 115 h
illusive: 677 h
Talon: 651 h
BFMR: 376 h
Assertive: 504 h
Total hours needed= 2980

Knowing that once a guild hits 1k hours, it will leave a tower free for the other guilds and it's highly unlikely that a new guild will go for 1k hours before the new system, all the guild's above has 100% chance to succeed and there will even be a wasted ~ 900 h on these guilds who take forts a few mins a day etc...

All in all, the most competitive guilds double on the weakest guilds, the weakest guilds will have the time to hit 1k hours after the most competitive are done and members from the most competitive will 70% join these "weaker" guilds.

You're just another brick in the wall

People who finish might try to stop/not let others achieve 1k. Gotta factor that in. Plus, some people might just tower for fun, until May ends.

Blame my English class professor B)

As I said there will be a not used ~900 h. If you say that guilds who take forts for a few min a day will cumulate a 20 h(being very generous) a day each day during 27 days it will be 540 h, there will still be 400 h left.
If you check the leaderboard you will see that these are the only guilds with influence. I don't think people will create a full guild to stop the others, hat chasers will rather join these guilds for a last chance to get a 1k hat.


Many members of Synx said they'll join illusive after they are done, this will go on and if somebody wants to stop guilds from hitting 1k they would have done it by now already but I see no guilds. (They would be weak against the guilds I listed anyway.)

from "funny/cringey" thread:>Stuff like this is why i really want the guilds that are sure to succeed (synx, zigzag, illusive) to go past 1k to the end of the month; if these guilds go on, with ohana and other noob guilds, they could be able to stop some of the other guilds from getting 1k in time.

Shouldn't be hard for any guild... The more guilds that finish, the less number of guilds that will care about towering, and the GST is coming up so during that week it will be even less competitive
Won't be hard, if any guild can't do it then they honestly don't deserve it

About 3 years late on this decision classic...

no u cant have ur pudding ok

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I think the thing I'll miss the least about 1k guilds is how passing leadership of guilds has devolved into this process where entire guilds are stripped down to the hat itself...

A few months ago, I got a guild back from someone who stole it from Candydreams. I gave her leadership, and eventually she gave it to her brother. Her brother then gave it to someone else for them to lead. That person then gave it to someone else under the promise that they'd get the hat if it's brought to 1k.
That's a bit of a rant, but the entire guild has no face or identity at that point. It becomes some vessel that people use for X amount of hours to unlock a hat that doesn't represent a guild or theme or group of people in any way.

I'll always defend rewards for towering, but I'm surprised that the hat itself is that important to people. So many people have done stuff like that, or traded hats with other guild leaders, or sold hats, etc. As I finish up my last guild, I'm sort of glad that stuff will soon be gone entirely (or at least I hope).

Yup , towers inc is a prime example stolen at 400h but who cares cuz 25 big names on graal got a hat out of right? , no guilds actually have an identity and character anymore , 95% of 1KS now you could easily brand as a 2.0 of a previous 1k , cuz that's all they are , chain chain chain and popular leaders just snapping their fingers and getting it done for them , I don't see why people care more about the hat than the journey , probably because no guilds offer a really good journey anymore , just same old same old , time for a change , as long as its not stupid and gives custom hats for other challenges..that would be kinda crap if 1KS hardly meant anything anymore , then again graal has a habit of paving over something and making it mean nothing anymore , just so people can get some extra "rewards"

Does this mean towers will be removed entirely, with this new system? Or will the new system work around towers and whatnot?

99% sure towers, or some form of towers, will stay and the reward system will still deal with it all.

TBH, I thought people exaggerated the thirst for the hat. This new one-month time limit seems to really show how important it is for most people though. If you look at a guild like Talon right now, which will probably be the last 1k, it's just a ragtag group of people trying to get their hands on the hat. I don't blame Talon for recruiting any of them and trying to reach his goal though, but it's surprising to me that people are really that willing to invest a month of time for an item with a bunch of randoms.

If there was ever any doubt that there is some "hat chasing" phenomenon, this month definitely proves it. People seem to join guilds not by preference, but by their own judgment of their chance to obtain the hat. Once that is changed, I'm sure guilds will function a lot better.

One of the reasons I decided not to tower. No more loyal guilds anymore, and the system is exploited, like so.

Who knows what is next....always exciting

Towering will be a joke in about 5 days, doesn't seem like anyone is interested in doing it "for fun" and 3 of the last 4 1k guilds will have finished by that time... Shouldn't be hard to get 60+ hours/daily with mediocre members during a time like that

Thats the biggest issue for me.
Towering was SO much fun. Late 2010 up until I'd say 2013.
Constant attacking guilds and pkers.
Since early 2013 its like towering has slowly being strangled to death and all the LAT/Devs have done is mess around doing dumb stuff to the towers.

Guilds like BFM and Assertive were stupid to give up so early, there will be 0 competition after the 16th or 17th and I think they could have easily made it, maybe still can

I heard that Illusive will be pk'ing all of the other guilds after they hit 1k. To try and stop them from hitting 1k.
Maybe I am wrong though. Just something I overheard.

That would be funny. I'd join and do that lol.

Synx had it as their guild news and some are helping Illusive, so there will probably be some members that do it but to my knowledge is not a guild activity Illusive is planning on doing. (a lot of them are dedicating a lot of time into finishing this month, kinda a **** move IMO to do something like that)

I still feel like people will constantly recycle guilds and just get the quickest hat reward possible over and over if they have the chance.

The current state of guild hats is in my opinion sad, I can understand some people having a few 1k hats especially the older players who were in actual guilds that towered to tower but now it is like a competition to just see which set of players can farm the most 1k hats, it's at the point where receiving a 1k hat is not a guild hat anymore because there is no guild part to it, just a tag a group of players can use to get another hat and then leave.

I haven't towered at all (aside from Illusive now) besides EPiC MiGHT years ago because of this, I personally don't see the point of joining a guild and dedicating 1,000 hours to get something that isn't even meaningful to half the people in the guild, I'm hoping the new points system changes this and allows family guilds and other guild-types like PK guilds a chance to just get rewarded for loyalty or playing different aspects of the game together as a guild.

Always thought it would be neat if there was a leaderboard that displayed the guilds with the most combined PKs/BKS.

I'm not doing that, seems senseless and will ultimately fail... Like I said, by the time we finish it'll be just Talon with 6 towers to themselves. I'd have to really dislike someone to want to do that to them anyway, I don't really know anyone in Talon.

Yeah. I am hoping for the same thing. There are certain guilds Cough* Ohana Cough*, who kicked a majority of their leads who helped on the restart after they finished and recruited their friends onto the hat list. It has become more about how many hats one can get, and less about the group and teamwork.
At first I did not agree with the guild update and now the towering update, but now I see exactly why they are changing it. My experience with Ohana is probably not the first time this has happened. I am just hoping it will make guilds more close knit, and provide a rewards system that leaders cannot take advantage of over their members.

#TBT http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12052
i was going through some old thread and found this. lol @replies. i guess he can't expect to get a 1k hat which he worked for.

Pretty much. Makes me happy that players like Light from Ohana will not be able to use their leads as a personal 1K hat dispensers so that they can just give it to their friends.
This update will hopefully fix this problem, and make guilds more about teamwork and a family. Instead of a group of backstabbing individuals that will do anything to keep their spot over another.

that's the question i wanted to ask. will this update gonna meet our expectation?

Well, considering there are no more 1K's I am hoping so. No more 1K's means the guild will have to work as a group to accomplish more than just 1K hours. Even if the guild update has to do with seasonal rewards, then these guilds will be going far beyond 1K hours in order to be first on the scoreboard. As well, they will not be able to just pump out 1K's every month.

Anyone remember MDR? They got to 1k in just a few weeks..

Everyone knows what they've done to get it; no reason to oppose the changes coming.

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Just do "rxkQLhj2BLM"

Jeffy's new video sums a lot of the community's questions in 1 video

in every one of Jeffy's videos where he mentions me he acts like I'm the ****ing boogeyman or something

haha, I he mentioned me and pronounced my name wrong!
I guess its hard for people to talk to you because of your reputation?

MDR wasnt the first to do that. They were the first to intentionally no life rush for 1k.
A few guilds got 1k in 2013ish within like 2.5-3 weeks.

MDR had nothing to do with getting to 1k fast, we just wanted to tower at Destiny

Doesn't Trill have the fastest time for 1k? Obviously was way easier back then but I'm curious what actually is trills or the fastest time