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Eugeen 02-26-2017 07:26 PM

I think everyone should be banned

Ruppy 02-26-2017 07:57 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 767782)
??? She was clearly not excessively lagging against you but she was laggy against (Creator). Stop making excuses for your loss.
You and maxxy lag so bad sometimes and both of you are Americans and you are complaining about a foreigner's delay?

Watch at 8:10-8:18 of my YouTube video. Rimaz stops moving and Maxy is way behind me then she disappears and then kills Maxy you can also see the delay of registry of my hit on her from 13:22-13:26
Watch shade at 14:00 lol

Sarah_ 02-26-2017 08:12 PM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 767799)
Watch at 8:10-8:18 of my YouTube video. Rimaz stops moving and Maxy is way behind me then she disappears and then kills Maxy you can also see the delay of registry of my hit on her from 13:22-13:26
Watch shade at 14:00 lol

I watched 8:10-8:18 3 times and there are no warp hits involved? The closest thing is at 17:50, the recording person froze and maxy got hit by rimaz which means you were the laggy person and not her...

You got a delay hit on her because she is Egyptian? If you warp rimaz for delaying, then warp 80% of graal as well?

I agree with what you said about shade(paz) tho

Marshmallow 02-26-2017 08:17 PM

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Posted by Aran (Post 767632)
This is something that really bothers me about gst; admins that don't know the first thing about guild sparring host the whole thing. It's like having an artist that has never played baseball umpire a Major League Baseball game, ya feel?

Actually I do know a few things about Guild Sparring.

1) People take it way too seriously. It's a game...use the time people spend getting ready for this tournament to do something with there lives

2) If people lose the GST, they claim "lag", "delayers", "admins are unfair".

3) We host it in pairs of admins. So if we have questions we can ask others who have done this millions of times to make sure that we don't ruin the GST for a bunch of snotty 12 year olds that then run to the forums to complain about it.

Now have a great day complaing about something else :blush:

qes 02-26-2017 08:21 PM

their team had one lagger that should have been Disqualified. But lag means warp/freezing.
Delay is because they live in a forgein country or VPN. To be honest i see no difference between Male PC delay, Male idev delay, 7ives delay. all equally annoying to spar. but its graals fault for not fixing it.

Thallen 02-26-2017 08:25 PM

I spent about a minute watching one of the matches…

https://i.gyazo.com/02af83e8f1e5b8c8...cc3afa4fef.gif
https://i.gyazo.com/6be693c2274be070...8a6b882c3e.gif
https://i.gyazo.com/07e696decb094148...d635936113.gif

So, where is the excessive delay we're talking about? That's honestly the least I've ever seen her delay, if I didn't know who that was I'd assume she's in North America

qes 02-26-2017 08:27 PM

yea their teams delay isnt as bad as 7ives/male idevice tbh. but they did have one extreme lagger

TeK 02-26-2017 08:36 PM

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Posted by Marshmallow (Post 767806)
Actually I do know a few things about Guild Sparring.

1) People take it way too seriously. It's a game...use the time people spend getting ready for this tournament to do something with there lives

2) If people lose the GST, they claim "lag", "delayers", "admins are unfair".

3) We host it in pairs of admins. So if we have questions we can ask others who have done this millions of times to make sure that we don't ruin the GST for a bunch of snotty 12 year olds that then run to the forums to complain about it.

Now have a great day complaing about something else :blush:

Anyone with this attitude towards the event should never be allowed to host it, and people like you are the reason why we question the admin qualification system.

David 02-26-2017 08:44 PM

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Posted by TeK (Post 767816)
Anyone with this attitude towards the event should never be allowed to host it, and people like you are the reason why we question the admin qualification system.

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Fulgore 02-26-2017 08:44 PM

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Posted by Marshmallow (Post 767806)
Actually I do know a few things about Guild Sparring.

1) People take it way too seriously. It's a game...use the time people spend getting ready for this tournament to do something with there lives

Former GP (who cares enough about the game to staff for it) with these kinds of statements is what we talk about when we demand quality from the staff. If you signed up to be staff, you should care enough to actually do your job. I should link my last reply so you're forced to respond to it somehow instead of trying to downplay your idiocy in the first post.

Ruppy 02-26-2017 08:47 PM

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Posted by TeK (Post 767816)
Anyone with this attitude towards the event should never be allowed to host it, and people like you are the reason why we question the admin qualification system.

Lol ikr it takes a lot of time to prepare and yes most of us want to spend our time irl but we also want to win the GST you can't show up the week of and expect to win it, it takes time, and when you take time and you get screwed by Paz then yes you have a right to be frustrated.

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Posted by Thallen (Post 767812)
I spent about a minute watching one of the matches…

https://i.gyazo.com/02af83e8f1e5b8c8...cc3afa4fef.gif
https://i.gyazo.com/6be693c2274be070...8a6b882c3e.gif
https://i.gyazo.com/07e696decb094148...d635936113.gif

So, where is the excessive delay we're talking about? That's honestly the least I've ever seen her delay, if I didn't know who that was I'd assume she's in North America

That is because you are picking and choosing your evidence. Rimaz was delaying and a few delay hits can be seen, the majority of the match she wasn't delaying or lagging and bad, however she herself if you looked at the pictures I posted said she should've been DQed vs us. Also I don't blame her, she lives far from us so she really can't help it which I'm not mad at her for. I'm more disappointed in Male allowing shade to spar for them and admins taking till 3rd round to notice his VPN

Sarah_ 02-26-2017 08:53 PM

She said she should have been dqed but really she shouldn't be, there's no excessive delay/lag there.

TeK 02-26-2017 08:54 PM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 767822)
I'm more disappointed in Male allowing shade to spar for them and admins taking till 3rd round to notice his VPN

At least they caught him, Jimbo got away with ban evading and VPNing the entire GST

Yonce 02-26-2017 09:00 PM

Krusty Krab is unfair
Mr. Krabs is in there
Standing at the concession
Plotting his oppression

(sorry)

Foxmon 02-26-2017 09:02 PM

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Posted by Marshmallow (Post 767806)
Actually I do know a few things about Guild Sparring.

1) People take it way too seriously. It's a game...use the time people spend getting ready for this tournament to do something with there lives

2) If people lose the GST, they claim "lag", "delayers", "admins are unfair".

3) We host it in pairs of admins. So if we have questions we can ask others who have done this millions of times to make sure that we don't ruin the GST for a bunch of snotty 12 year olds that then run to the forums to complain about it.

Now have a great day complaing about something else :blush:

I feel like you're generalizing a lot, and I can't say I agree to what you're saying. Basically you're making generalizing comments and complaints about every sparrer or player that has entered the GST, and that's not working in your advantage.

If you don't get why people spend time getting ready for GST or how the forums are a place to give feedback about the GST, then I don't know what you're doing in this thread tbh. unless you just came here to rant

Sarah_ 02-26-2017 09:03 PM

Paz is like: 4-6 first round
2-6 2nd round
How could you win if they warped him out? If they subbed him out they would have beaten you still.

Ruppy 02-26-2017 09:14 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 767829)
Paz is like: 4-6 first round
2-6 2nd round
How could you win if they warped him out? If they subbed him out they would have beaten you still.

The 4v2 "clutch" is why we lost. We should've won that because shade had 1 left Rimaz had 1.5 ari had 1.5 Maxy chun and I had 1 and we cornered shade but he warped our so we couldn't kill him and in doing so he ran at me and Maxy got us to .5 with his warps then Rimaz comes and kills us. If shade was not using VPN we would be able to see him try to escape and move to prevent it making it a 4v1 with chun Maxy and I at 1 a total of 3 health and Rimaz at 1.5 and ari as well so it would be 4.5 health vs Rimaz 1.5 health

LiA 02-26-2017 09:30 PM

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Posted by Marshmallow (Post 767806)
3) We host it in pairs of admins. So if we have questions we can ask others who have done this millions of times to make sure that we don't ruin the GST for a bunch of snotty 12 year olds that then run to the forums to complain about it.

You clearly don't know about the game itself enough to be monitoring it lol. Just because you see the same usual 10-15 players complaining on the forums every GST season, doesn't mean the other 300+ participants are the same way. Most of us enjoy participating in the event for fun, and the hosts we've had in the past year or two have been amazing at managing the event. If you're going to target your posts towards specific players, atleast quote them.

EP 02-26-2017 09:31 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 767693)
You suck against delay.

^^^ all that really needed to be said

Thallen 02-26-2017 09:34 PM

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Posted by Marshmallow (Post 767806)
3) We host it in pairs of admins. So if we have questions we can ask others who have done this millions of times to make sure that we don't ruin the GST for a bunch of snotty 12 year olds that then run to the forums to complain about it.

When there are people like you who have hosted it, who clearly don't understand the rules and strategy involved, why wouldn't people complain? For an event hosted once every 90 days, I'd at least expect a GP to take 5 minutes of their time to understand what they're officiating

BrandonGraal 02-26-2017 10:15 PM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 767832)
The 4v2 "clutch" is why we lost. We should've won that because shade had 1 left Rimaz had 1.5 ari had 1.5 Maxy chun and I had 1 and we cornered shade but he warped our so we couldn't kill him and in doing so he ran at me and Maxy got us to .5 with his warps then Rimaz comes and kills us. If shade was not using VPN we would be able to see him try to escape and move to prevent it making it a 4v1 with chun Maxy and I at 1 a total of 3 health and Rimaz at 1.5 and ari as well so it would be 4.5 health vs Rimaz 1.5 health

I believe rimaz was fine, She didn't need to be Dqed, but Shade(Paz) Not getting DQ is something. #1 Vpner in the game and he couldn't get even dqed till round 3. Like cmon Paz took the idevice streak record on a assuie flag. Its obvs he is gonna VPN in the GsT as well. Should of been a easy choice to DQ Shade. Gg

Red 02-26-2017 10:30 PM

Conclusion;

Gteam sucks

Ruppy 02-26-2017 10:54 PM

Just had a great conversation with ator (admin) and we might be able to get instant replay into the next gst! Props to him for hearing my concern #thisiswhatprogresslookslike #nextgsthypebuildup #instant replay #cringeyhashtags

ator 02-26-2017 11:00 PM

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Posted by Ruppy (Post 767856)
Just had a great conversation with ator (admin) and we might be able to get instant replay into the next gst! Props to him for hearing my concern #thisiswhatprogresslookslike #nextgsthypebuildup #instant replay #cringeyhashtags

Buddy, I can't get an instant replay built in graal lol. I said it'd be practical if 1/4 admins would sit and record just in case something had to be rewinded.

RyanB 02-26-2017 11:03 PM

jesus, making a 5 page thread just because admins screwed up on something that was supposed to be hosted for fun
smh

Ruppy 02-26-2017 11:06 PM

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Posted by ator (Post 767859)
Buddy, I can't get an instant replay built in graal lol. I said it'd be practical if 1/4 admins would sit and record just in case something had to be rewinded.

So if it's practical why not do it :0 because we can prevent more situations like ours ;)

Eugeen 02-27-2017 12:18 AM

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Posted by RyanB (Post 767860)
jesus, making a 5 page thread just because admins screwed up on something that was supposed to be hosted for fun
smh

There's prizes, I doubt most play for fun

Perseus 02-27-2017 12:22 AM

When they charge admission to join the GST i'll start paying attention to complaint threads ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Rokar* 03-14-2017 08:37 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 767872)
There's prizes, I doubt most play for fun

who won this time around?

GotenGraal 03-14-2017 10:51 PM

finaly somebody speakin up about gst bein unfair lol i hav been sayin for years rufus keeps hacking it n nobody beleives me like im crazy

Sir Travis 03-15-2017 01:24 AM

Just sit back, relax, and watch the madness from the sidelines

I recommend attending a couple GST's as a spectator first, it told me everything I needed to know about the spar community

4-Lom 03-15-2017 01:27 AM

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Posted by Sir Travis (Post 771950)

I recommend attending a couple GST's as a spectator first, it told me everything I needed to know about the spar community

R u fishing there, mate? Or just havin a giggle?

Sir Travis 03-15-2017 01:43 AM

Nah man, it's a shark tank and honestly it's like trying to play poker with a table full of people with cards up their sleeves, till you understand the beast,maybe don't saddle it

Rokar* 03-15-2017 12:27 PM

I remember when it was a monthly thing.. people didn't take it SO SERIOUSLY because you didn't have to wait another 90 days to get another chance. Maybe if the administrators took into consideration bringing back the monthly GST.. and instead of making three hats, that the administrators say takes 3 MONTHS, maybe do -

1st Place - Hat , Belt , 10k gralats each
2nd Place - 10k gralats , statue in house (saying something like "2nd Place 20__ GsT Fall"
3rd place - 5k gralats

Would that work? So then some people would cut the complaining and just work to achieve their goal in 30 or so days... ALSO - We could just create one tournament with 64 teams, increasing the amount of administrators per round. Then if you have just one administrator recording the entire time, and if the sparrers have any issues we could replay it, like ator suggested.

Raeven 03-15-2017 01:16 PM

Or daily spar / PvP events few gralats to join and like 100-200g if u win , maybe a event bot for it. Its kinda boring and dry right now

Strum 03-15-2017 02:40 PM

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Posted by McCullough (Post 767446)
This is why I don't GS. It's just such bull****

You are responsible to who you make owner of your guild.

Rokar* 03-15-2017 04:44 PM

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Posted by Raeven (Post 771997)
Or daily spar / PvP events few gralats to join and like 100-200g if u win , maybe a event bot for it. Its kinda boring and dry right now

I agree.

Regius M. 03-15-2017 05:10 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 771923)
finaly somebody speakin up about gst bein unfair lol i hav been sayin for years rufus keeps hacking it n nobody beleives me like im crazy

mayb

4-Lom 03-15-2017 05:58 PM

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Posted by Sir Travis (Post 771956)
Nah man, it's a shark tank and honestly it's like trying to play poker with a table full of people with cards up their sleeves, till you understand the beast,maybe don't saddle it

All these salty whiners and I can't even enter unless I stay up till 4 am. Sheesh.

Sir Travis 03-15-2017 11:30 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 772020)
All these salty whiners and I can't even enter unless I stay up till 4 am. Sheesh.

High sodium content indeed, atleast you can get into late night events though? I sure miss that late night trivia :D

LoX 03-16-2017 01:01 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 772020)
All these salty whiners and I can't even enter unless I stay up till 4 am. Sheesh.

Oath

Bunny/Kamikazi 03-16-2017 02:16 PM

I've never entered but i've always wanted to.. but.. no one likes a newbie to GST so i go on not entering.

MisterFace 03-17-2017 04:44 AM

Moral of story: Bad admins, even worse gs.


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