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knuckles 06-25-2012 03:00 AM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 147840)
It was my older brother's account. Not mine. He was the one who was stealing accounts, not me.

You both share accounts dont you? If you do then the account would have to be banned for what he did. If you dont share the same account then you would not be banned.

MSM 06-25-2012 03:03 AM

We didn't and still don't share accounts.

Rexx 06-25-2012 03:12 AM

After reading every post in this thread I can see you're just going around in a circle of lies and acting like you're stupid makes it look worse..actually I don't even think you're acting.
Just stop, they have the evidence, it was your account that broke the rules, take responsibility and stop with this nonsense.

The Doctor 06-25-2012 03:23 AM

Apparently your older brother was randomly on my friends list when I didn't even add him... Strange, huh?

Higbey 06-25-2012 03:57 AM

If you really believe that there's no evidence you did it then ask a staff member to post it here. You did it, we all know it. Stop while you are ahead. No one will believe you. You did it and you were wrong thinking you would be able to get out of it.

Alexei 06-25-2012 09:42 AM

Go hit you'r brother I suggest,wait one month and play Graal classic

fsh 06-25-2012 10:31 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 147856)
If you really believe that there's no evidence you did it then ask a staff member to post it here. You did it, we all know it. Stop while you are ahead. No one will believe you. You did it and you were wrong thinking you would be able to get out of it.

He obviously did it... no evidence needed.


He's been hittin hard on thay cocaine like PoeticFolly said, MSM your a ehinner and I hope they ban you from the forums too.

callimuc 06-25-2012 11:26 AM

We are doing enough researches. Mostly we even watch the players for a few minutes and so on. If you think you got banned/jailed without a decent reason email [email protected] and stop doing threads.

AND STOP SUGGESTING THAT COURTHOUSE ITS NOT UP TO PLAYERS!

fsh 06-25-2012 11:44 AM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 147954)
We are doing enough researches. Mostly we even watch the players for a few minutes and so on. If you think you got banned/jailed without a decent reason email [email protected] and stop doing threads.

AND STOP SUGGESTING THAT COURTHOUSE ITS NOT UP TO PLAYERS!

Delete or close thread? :)

XENA* 06-25-2012 11:53 AM

Lol MSM you got pwned.

MementoJoker 06-25-2012 12:21 PM

The amount of lying in this thread,
IS TOO DAMN HIGH!

Angelz 06-25-2012 12:38 PM

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Posted by XENA* (Post 147961)
Lol MSM you got pwned.

Yeah lol . Boo .

BboyEatsbacon 06-25-2012 05:07 PM

It is in these cases where the CoC and UA come into play. =)

Quote:

Posted by User Agreement
Any GraalOnline administrator and LINUX Cyberjoueurs reserves the right to determine, in its sole discretion, what constitutes generally accepted standards of online behavior and may, without notice and at any time, suspend or terminate your access to the Graal Online System.

*Other Section*
Graal Online administrators and LINUX Cyberjoueurs reserves the right, but does not assume the responsibility, to restrict conduct which any Graal Online administrator or LINUX Cyberjoueurs himself deems in its discretion to be harmful to individual users, damaging to the communities which use the Graal Online System, or in violation of any third party's rights.


Ace 06-25-2012 05:15 PM

so we pay and support the game while you staff have absolute dictatorship eh

Mofujohn 06-25-2012 06:02 PM

This feels like the droppable hat scandal all over again... Lies lies lies...

BboyEatsbacon 06-25-2012 06:07 PM

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Posted by Ace (Post 148085)
so we pay and support the game while you staff have absolute dictatorship eh

No?

Ace 06-25-2012 06:32 PM

That's basically what te user agreement states

Dusty 06-25-2012 07:52 PM

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Posted by Ace (Post 148085)
so we pay and support the game while you staff have absolute dictatorship eh

No you pay for the right to play their game under their rules, like ANY OTHER ONLINE ESTABLISHMENT EVER.

Just because you pay for something does not give you free reign to do whatever you please.

Higbey 06-25-2012 08:06 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 148134)
No you pay for the right to play their game under their rules, like ANY OTHER ONLINE ESTABLISHMENT EVER.

Just because you pay for something does not give you free reign to do whatever you please.

:( *puts down Molotov cocktail*

Ace 06-25-2012 08:32 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 148134)
No you pay for the right to play their game under their rules, like ANY OTHER ONLINE ESTABLISHMENT EVER.

Just because you pay for something does not give you free reign to do whatever you please.

Right to play? what would happen if we all quit not wanting to be controlled then, the "rights agreement" will probably get disolved. And begging people to come back and support them again

MSM 06-25-2012 08:33 PM

I kinda agree a bit. You all have full power to basically do what you want

Dusty 06-25-2012 08:37 PM

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Posted by Ace (Post 148172)
Right to play? what would happen if we all quit not wanting to be controlled then, the "rights agreement" will probably get disolved. And begging people to come back and support them again

The hell are you talking about?

Ace 06-25-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 148180)
The hell are you talking about?

I'm talking about freedom of right

Dusty 06-25-2012 08:45 PM

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Posted by Ace (Post 148182)
I'm talking about freedom of right

That doesn't even make sense.

Ace 06-25-2012 08:52 PM

I thought you can understand at your level but I guess I was wrong

callimuc 06-25-2012 09:03 PM

Or his level is obviously too high for you. Not to fight you but I bet Dusty has way more experience than you do and does know a lot more things related to that topic.

Ace 06-25-2012 09:18 PM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 148207)
Or his level is obviously too high for you. Not to fight you but I bet Dusty has way more experience than you do and does know a lot more things related to that topic.

This isn't fighting o.o if you think it is your taking things too seriously. I bet he has more experience, do I care? no

callimuc 06-25-2012 09:21 PM

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Posted by Ace (Post 148225)
This isn't fighting o.o if you think it is your taking things too seriously. I bet he has more experience, do I care? no

Didn't say it was a fight before just wanted to note it for the comment after that one so you won't get it wrong ;)

Johnaudi 06-26-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Posted by callimuc (Post 147954)
We are doing enough researches. Mostly we even watch the players for a few minutes and so on. If you think you got banned/jailed without a decent reason email [email protected] and stop doing threads.

AND STOP SUGGESTING THAT COURTHOUSE ITS NOT UP TO PLAYERS!

Courthouse in Graal before every Jail/Ban would be cool :0

The Doctor 06-26-2012 03:51 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 148617)
Courthouse in Graal before every Jail/Ban would be cool :0

Except if the NPC-Server bans the player :p
The NPC-Server never lies.

MSM 06-26-2012 03:51 PM

Maybe not every jail/ban, but only the serious bans like mine.

Johnaudi 06-26-2012 04:37 PM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 148634)
Maybe not every jail/ban, but only the serious bans like mine.

Chill, 1 month ban ain't that much... Back in my day 3months +

Higbey 06-26-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Posted by MSM Graal (Post 148634)
Maybe not every jail/ban, but only the serious bans like mine.

your ban isnt serious or a matter where the ban doesnt fit the crime or the offense in question is not to be considered a crime, your ban has no controversy. pretty obvious what happened and what you are trying to trick us into believing.

MSM 06-26-2012 04:43 PM

Well even though I didn't do it, I don't get why i was banned for scamming, isn't scamming legal?

callimuc 06-26-2012 04:45 PM

Not if it is account scamming.

Higbey 06-26-2012 04:45 PM

not account scamming, you know that.

scamming isnt 'allowed' its just staff cant do anything about it, scamming accounts is way more serious and staff will do something about it.

ZyKo 06-26-2012 04:49 PM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 147725)
No, as I said in another thread that Callimuc deleted, it was my older brother! Why doesn't anyone believe me? If the admin that banned me is seeing this thread, please post your (fake) evidence. Thanks.

Nobody believes you huh? WELL I DO! Just for the sake of being awkward :Phttp://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&...9,r:0,s:0,i:72

MSM 06-26-2012 05:07 PM

Ok thanks, well now at least 1 person besides me believes the truth.

callimuc 06-26-2012 05:10 PM

In logs we trust. Amen

Kiko 06-26-2012 05:34 PM

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Posted by callimuc (Post 148692)
In logs we trust. Amen

*sniff* so... *Sniff* Deep.

Dude1310 06-26-2012 05:34 PM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 148674)
Well even though I didn't do it, I don't get why i was banned for scamming, isn't scamming legal?

That's exactly what "Jet" pmed me after I pmed him saying i'm gonna report you for trying to steal my account...

Jester Lapse 06-26-2012 09:25 PM

Shut up. All of you. Just shut up. Besides callimuc.

Kiwi 06-26-2012 09:35 PM

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Posted by snk
Era Staff are no longer using Graalians to post any information regarding Era. All information will be relayed in game.

So, what is the point of this thread, other than moaning?

You didn't put your case together all that well, MSM…

MSM 06-26-2012 09:37 PM

Because no one believes me...

IPAD* 06-26-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Posted by MSM Graal (Post 148818)
Because no one believes me...

GUILTYYYYYY

MSM 06-26-2012 09:47 PM

Someone please, close this thread so no more non-believers can make up lies. kkthxbai

IPAD* 06-26-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Posted by MSM Graal (Post 148827)
Someone please, close this thread so no more non-believers can make up lies. kkthxbai

Guilty, btw Noob you can close it yourself.

MSM 06-26-2012 09:55 PM

No i can't, btw noob.

IPAD* 06-26-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Posted by MSM Graal (Post 148840)
No i can't, btw noob.

Still guilty btw noob.

MSM 06-26-2012 09:59 PM

No im not, but you are.


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