I'm asking for help on the ideas of what the quest quest will be, I'll do any graphics I can, I'm just trying to get people involved, but I'd you dont I can do the ideas for the actual quest itself I guess.

People want quests with items that do something.

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The healing is something, if it's not enough both it and meditate would be buffed.

There we go fixed. Don't put words in my mouth.I for a fact think that what your saying is that if you had a horse and i didnt have one , this would mean you would have a better chance getting there cause you are faster.This is not in a 'quest' it gives an advantag for other things to and is much more useful than meditate.and same to meditate you have to achieve or do something to get this.To get meditate you have to pass the first round of gst and hope u get meditate if not you try next time.with horse you have to get gralats to buy the horse.

So horses should be for quests now?and higbey leave your two player mount complaining out of this thread let me stop your winging about that another time.

I already discussed the default horse being given free at balamb, and the 2 people mounting should be for all mounts.

Once again, I already explained meditate is okay for the gst, but a item that also heals the same needs to be available for free or via a quest. You can't change this so stop trying to. You are just wasting time and energy trying to stop progress, people talk about the quests giving hats and morphs, here is one that does something!

So, is anyone going to give input on the way the quest itself shall be or do I need to do all that myself too?

well meditate comes at a cost you have to buy it. and there is burgers that cost too.problem solved nothing has to be free or available by quest.

Design a quest around an item that doesnt already exist.

No. That is not the way to run things. You'll turn the game into a bloody pay2win era.

Fine, keep arguing about it, keep trying to stop me, I don't care, I've talked to players on graal that liked the idea, lots of players agreeing on a quest for a healing item like meditate.

I'll make a new thread for this later for the quest for people that want to get involved instead of just trying to stop everything, I don't see you guys starting a quest.

I'm not going to listen or stop for you. I've already explained how to are wrong, already set up everything.

Well no there shouldnt be a quest where you get healing item for free. thats unfair people have paid for them.So far all you have said about your quest that you want to make it so basically you havent started making a quest

Already came up with storyline, connections, the basis, the item, also considering people that got meditate have a different rarer version than this healing item and they got it before this healing item will ever be released I say it's more than fair for them.

How would this healing item work? If it just generates health without you having to do anything, it would make all the current forms of healing useless.

Not necessarily. Pots are faster and people would still run to them instead of meditating at .5 if they are close to them. Same with MoD healing orb. People would use burgers because you can use them in direct combat and they are more effective and faster and stronger... Nobody uses beds as a means to heal much anyways. Mabye SOMETIMES at dw...

Same as meditate?

There's nothing wrong with either of these items.

A default horse should be free for new players since it affects the gameplay so much,

And the 2 players on one mount could have been applied to all mounts, since that also affects gameplay.

The single horse mouny takes maybe 1h to get if you farm after the 500gralat bonus from the intro checklist. The two person mount may affect gameplay but does not affect balance at all. Two people on two horses is more powerful then two people on a two person mount.

2 person mount isnt OP but it is sort of scummy, nevertheless. Pay to get cooler items. Tricking you into buying gralat packs, but hey, graal is just a buisness afteralll.

So, not functional for healing at all?

To be quite honest, it seems like a waste of time.

Boohoo, noobs cant run around at bush 5 and people payed money for that and personally if anything the armored panda should be buffed... Its ARMORED...

they pay money for vanity cosmetic items, thats the way it is, you shouldnt be able to buy gameplay.

But then iClassic would be stripped down to sword-shield-bow-bomb. I, for one, like the option to buy items, and I can't see iClassic turning into iEra any time soon.

we can still get items and we will, but they wont and shouldnt be sold. earned or found.

people also pay virtual money (gralats) to get actual buffs in 99% of games, so a ARMORED. Panda that makes your health 6 or so isnt that bad..

I laughed at this stupidity. Literally laughed. Its nice to have a laugh like that once in awhile.

Shut up and go back to your bin ranting

Lol nice comeback :)

NO
you cannot buy stuff that effects gameplay, thats the way it is and the way it will be as long as the people in charge now stay in charge.

Wrong. You cannot exclude some players from an advantage. Effecting gameplay is different then an advantage.

Yeah because it works for all other games... Earn money , get ahead , repeat. It works for all other games so lets not do it for graal? People suck so they fall behind. Big deal

Higbey's got a point to some extent. In games where balance actually matters it can be a big problem. CoD is a prime example, it's not based on skill because someone who's been playing for longer will beat a newer person most of the time because of gun power.

Experience, skill, knowledge, houses, guilds, and custom pack are the only advantages you need.

You should be able to get all the actual things with a effect without paying gralats.

I think its good to have items like meditate, so you can show off o people that you went past a round in gst.

You will still have it, meditate will still be gst only, I never had any intentions of having it removed or made public, but I'm talking about a different item with the same healing effect of meditate.

How is this thread still open??

You're still going on and on about this?

Yeah because higbey has a point. Meditate, whether minor or major, gives an advantage.

Infact alot of the people arguing with him keep ignoring some key point higbey has given such as

He has no intention of giving away "meditate" to the public but instead a different gani that heals with the same properties. And you win this in a quest

thank you, unfortunatly it will take a long time, Rufus is busy and im still waiting on sketch to send me the graphic he promised to make a month ago so i can get the void updated...

Correct, but next time use real games for an example. Like skyrim. Even though itsnot multiplayer, you use in game money to buy stuff to make yourself better? -wait for higbey to say its unfair to the npcs-

Because a game with 3 weapons attracts players. And thats a good idea sadly. Welcome to real life and real marketing and real buisness

On a side note but still main point, higbey has to be strongest democrat ive ever met.

What you just said is completely irrelevant, and since when is CoD not a game?

Let me simplify this for you honey. In MULTIPLAYER games (not like Skyrim), PvP gameplay should be based off skill instead of advantages given by weapons or NPCs. So, options should either be side grades or available to everyone in some form.

*facepalm*

oh god what a idiot....

first off, skyrim is not multiplayer, so its different, and you cant just buy super powerful at the start, most of the powerful stuff is earned,
secondly, skyrim doesnt let you buy money with real money, you cant just spend real money for the most powerful weapons,
it wouldnt apply in skyrim anyways, because in single player games you play how you want to play and are not effecting others,

graal is much different, and you earn all gameplay, instead of being able to buy it or only get it via a guild thing,
thats the cool thing about graal, its the perfect system to make it completly free to play, equal, and about skill, with money taking no part in it, thats the way games should be.

Agreed :3

There are ways i could redeem myself but honestly its not worth the effort.

So why did you have to post that?

Because i thought i rationalized it better than i did

To keep his ego intact.