Posted by Pazx (Post 171622)

I see nothing wrong with that. The staff should be able to implement this well enough so that it looks fantastic and people would only choose to disable it due to hardware issues.

Posted by Applez (Post 173115)

I'm aware a lot of you play the PC version of GraalOnline. But are you aware of a server named "Atlantis?" If you do, you'll remember that they have a day/night GUI at the top of the screen. Maybe try this? It would also allow players to disable lighting, and still know the time of day.

Posted by Emera (Post 173305)

Obviously nobody is ****ing reading the posts Dusty is making. Players will be able to see better if an option to disable the day/night system were to be added. This gives them an advantage over other players who have it enabled.

Posted by Emera

Obviously nobody is ****ing reading the posts Dusty is making. Players will be able to see better if an option to disable the day/night system were to be added. This gives them an advantage over other players who have it enabled.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 173291)

Perhaps instead of using Deadwood's system, a similar one could be created using what is known as Hollywood Darkness. What I'm talking about is how in movies, when it's supposedly pitch black, there is sort of a bluish glow around the set so that the audience can see. Using something like that would alleviate the issue of the screen being too dark while still giving off the illusion of darkness.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 171444)

Not implementing an idea because of certain players not having the latest hardware would be completely idiotic. When taking into account how good this idea is, as well as player demand for something new to do, there is no reason this idea should not be put into action. Sure, the AFKers I mentioned might complain, BUT NO ONE CARES ABOUT THEM. Aside from that, I'm sure most Graal players have the necessary hardware for this idea to run smoothly(or not. Someone should do a survey on this or something.) Considering players with older hardware most likely make a minority of the playerbase, it is no reason to hold back Graal and good ideas for it.

Posted by Dusty (Post 173358)

This would be ideal, but Graal doesn't make it easy to do such a thing. In my opinion, if it could be done, I'd rather see it make use of the lantern.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 173376)

Having nighttime use a lantern would make the game far less friendly to newer players, as they may not have the lantern, making it impossible to travel at night, and depending on the amount of time nighttime lasts, making playing at certain times pointless unless you're at a tower or another place with constant activity.

And what do you disagree with MattKan?

Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 173385)

Pix's weather system didn't lag and it had overlays and moving particles, now I'm not an expert in scripting but maybe something like that could be used for night in classic?

Posted by Dusty (Post 173379)

I didn't say it'd be dependent, I'd say it'd make use.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 173376)

Having nighttime use a lantern would make the game far less friendly to newer players, as they may not have the lantern, making it impossible to travel at night, and depending on the amount of time nighttime lasts, making playing at certain times pointless unless you're at a tower or another place with constant activity.

And what do you disagree with MattKan?

Posted by Blueh (Post 173537)

Solution: Street lamps. Or lighting things on fire, that never fails in any scenario.

Posted by Winter (Post 178176)

I like the idea, but something tells me a few more soundtrack items would be ideal for different times of the day. Perhaps silent at night, same original tune during the day, and different little tunes for morning and evening? Perhaps its time for a new contest to give some musically talented Graalians a chance to win a prize of some sort? (Unless the original musician is still available, it might fit better with the rest of the soundtrack.)



Not in favor.. This is a classic-style server, and there really is no need to start adding modern day equipment such as street lamps just because we would a source of light. I have to agree with Dusty's original idea that lanterns could be used at night. However, maybe it would be helpful rather than absolutely necessary. For example, lighting a lantern to help you see through fog in Swamptown at night easier.

Posted by Winter (Post 178176)

I like the idea, but something tells me a few more soundtrack items would be ideal for different times of the day. Perhaps silent at night, same original tune during the day, and different little tunes for morning and evening? Perhaps its time for a new contest to give some musically talented Graalians a chance to win a prize of some sort? (Unless the original musician is still available, it might fit better with the rest of the soundtrack.)



Not in favor.. This is a classic-style server, and there really is no need to start adding modern day equipment such as street lamps just because we would a source of light. I have to agree with Dusty's original idea that lanterns could be used at night. However, maybe it would be helpful rather than absolutely necessary. For example, lighting a lantern to help you see through fog in Swamptown at night easier.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178180)

There's been multiple threads about new soundtracks and apparently we can't have them because they would take up too much space. What's a few MB to anyone? The lantern thing is a good idea, although perhaps by street lamps they meant little lanterns hanging from sticks or something.

Posted by Winter (Post 178186)

Possible, yet the thought was never clearly conveyed that way. Also, I completely agree to a couple MB being used for a new soundtrack for the adventure's sake. Unless an actual staff member can explain why MIDI or MP3 files take up too much space compared to a folder of a couple hundred hats consisting of GIFs, PNGs, and MNGs, I will continue to believe in the possibility of an expanded soundtrack.

Posted by Blueh (Post 178179)

Lanterns would only be used in a few places like in towns on a few corners or so. Now, leaving town. You might want to bring your lantern. As it will be quite dark. (But not that dark) As for music, I agree. After a while you get tired of someone spazzing out on the cello and flute.

Posted by Blueh (Post 178189)

Posted by Blueh

CHANGE THE ENTIRE SOUNDTRACK COMPLETELY IF IT'S TAKING UP TOO MUCH SPACE. NO ONE LIKES THE CURRENT ONE ANYWAY.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178196)

Seriously. I can help make a new soundtrack if I had the soundfonts that Graal uses. Some tracks just suck or don't fit as well as they could. For example, the regular overworld song for Snowtown. I think it could use it's own song. The regular songs wouldn't work out at all at night, as flutes and cellos having seizures barely works during the day. How would it work at night?

Posted by Pimpsy G.

Don't change the two default music song for the normal over world though. I've grown so nostalgic of that for the past 3 years, lol.

Posted by Emera

If you're going to make one then I'll make one too I guess :P

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178201)

It's more of a need to expand the soundtrack, not replace tracks.



And thus a new soundtrack project begins, marking a new era of progress for iClassic. Sort of. You think you could provide the soundfonts for Classic?

Posted by Emera

I'll play around with acid and try and knock something up before I begin. After that, I'll post them here and we can both get cracking.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178208)

Alrighty then, let's do this. Hopefully our work will actually be used.

Posted by Emera

9/10 it just goes into my DropBox, but that'd be nice <3

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178211)

Now that we're talking about soundtracks, I'd like to ask for your opinion on having a battle track for the spar arena or the final match of GST or something of the like.

Posted by Emera

I'm always up for music being added, but I don't think anything more than a background track will be healthy for a spar level. It'll just make players not want to enter otherwise.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178223)

I guess that's true, but a track for a tournament final would be interesting. If its going to have a background track, it better be good, since a bad background track would also keep people from entering.

Posted by Emera

Good point. I thought you were talking about something that'd constantly stay in the background, and I've wound players up before by having something noisy and not well thought out playing in the background when all they want to do is have fun.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178233)

Maybe we should have another topic for discussing soundtracks, since we've essentially hijacked this thread.

Posted by Dusty

If it could be done I'd like to see it where the player's lantern "subtracts" darkness away from the screen, and allowing you to also sprinkle torches and lanterns around populated areas/paths to also help improve the visibility at night. The only question is whether or not the hardware of iPods could pull it off without lag.

Could provide a "simple" and "advanced" light option where advanced performs like the above screenshot, but more exhausting on the hardware, and a simple that works like how the lantern currently does.

Posted by Dusty

Maybe I'll hop on testbed and test how feasible it'd be to have that method working on the iPod. The only downside last time I checked was you couldn't adjust the opacity of the black(hence it being very dark).

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178268)

Maybe you could use a very dark blue instead of black?

Posted by Dusty

A dark blue at 99% opacity is pretty much the same as black at 99% opacity, in terms of visibility.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178274)

It would make more sense color-wise though, since light reflected from the moon has sort of a bluish color to it.

Posted by Dusty

It's not about color though, it's about visibility, and the method I'm talking about doesn't allow any sort of flexibility.

Posted by Psycher! (Post 178276)

So at around 50% opacity, it'll have the same amount of visibility as 90% opacity?

Posted by Dusty

That's kind of what I was saying... the method I was implying is more about manipulating a function of Graal in an unintended way and doesn't allow you to change such things.