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SnakeRekon 09-03-2012 03:01 PM
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Posted by lord mafia Era (Post 192136)
fine keep it as its why the change ? think about making new gun? LowL no point for change power damage of the gun that been released over 5 month.

if you change the power damage, then the price comes Next , Can you make it cheap , or how about Giving it out Fo Fo free as freepies? xD
Even new shotguns will have balancing issues, i'm not merely trying to balance one gun. I'm trying to balance all shotguns for the present and for the future.

fsh 09-03-2012 03:04 PM
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Posted by Talon (Post 190125)
Here's a crazy idea: don't buy it.
I didn't but idk what to buy with 125k cz I might as well use my damn M3 because it's the same thing almost..

SnakeRekon 09-03-2012 03:05 PM
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Posted by fsh (Post 192227)
I didn't but idk what to buy with 125k cz I might as well use my damn M3 because it's the same thing almost..
M3 is being worked on f00 xD

fsh 09-03-2012 03:09 PM
Omg make every gun 2dmg exept bunny lanucher. Jk

And at Lord Mafia's post, I have read it over and over and I seriously cannot undertand it at all.

bobo 09-03-2012 05:41 PM
I didn't read the other posts on this thread so I'm sorry if I'm repeating this:
Why not give shotguns crazy spread? Make it to where the only way to hit with all four-five bullets is short range. Unlike the Olympic rings, have the rate of fire far slower, so a player doesn't have to constantly dodge.

lord mafia Era 09-04-2012 04:54 AM
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Posted by fsh (Post 192233)
Omg make every gun 2dmg exept bunny lanucher. Jk

And at Lord Mafia's post, I have read it over and over and I seriously cannot undertand it at all.

LOL you may forgot to eat your stinky Cheese xD

fsh 09-04-2012 04:59 AM
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Posted by bobo (Post 192293)
I didn't read the other posts on this thread so I'm sorry if I'm repeating this:
Why not give shotguns crazy spread? Make it to where the only way to hit with all four-five bullets is short range. Unlike the Olympic rings, have the rate of fire far slower, so a player doesn't have to constantly dodge.
Or make the spread like Olympic Rings :D!

lord mafia Era 09-04-2012 05:03 AM
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Posted by fsh (Post 192948)
Or make the spread like Olympic Rings :D!
xD ewww LOL you want that with Cheese???

fsh 09-04-2012 05:08 AM
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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 192228)
M3 is being worked on f00 xD
fo0 y not u nerf m3¿

Talon 09-04-2012 05:09 AM
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Posted by lord mafia Era (Post 192945)
LOL you may forgot to eat your stinky Cheese xD
W-Wha?

lord mafia Era 09-04-2012 05:11 AM
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Posted by fsh (Post 192958)
fo0 y not u nerf m3¿
you call that a Grammar xD you stink !

fsh 09-04-2012 05:14 AM
Kid you need serious help, idk if your not mentally secure or if it's just being pre-mature.

Talon 09-04-2012 05:18 AM
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Posted by lord mafia Era (Post 192960)
you call that a Grammar xD you stink !
I'm sorry for your loss.

lord mafia Era 09-04-2012 05:19 AM
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Posted by fsh (Post 192962)
Kid you need serious help, idk if your not mentally secure or if it's just being pre-mature.
xD what ? now i need your Google Master lool

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Posted by Talon (Post 192965)
I'm sorry for your loss.
xD thanks are you a girl?

fsh 09-04-2012 05:21 AM
You use "xD" WAAAAY too much.

lord mafia Era 09-04-2012 05:23 AM
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Posted by fsh (Post 192971)
You use "xD" WAAAAY too much.
xD hahahaha , Daa what Da hell?

fsh 09-04-2012 05:36 AM
Hey Snake mabey have the Pbp have 5dmg 6 perfect condition? Make the freeze a bit more.. I would buy it for 125k lol. Just my opinion

SnakeRekon 09-04-2012 07:36 PM
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Posted by fsh (Post 192994)
Hey Snake mabey have the Pbp have 5dmg 6 perfect condition? Make the freeze a bit more.. I would buy it for 125k lol. Just my opinion
Let us do math :)

6 damage a bullet, four bullets = 24 damage, 48 damage with only two shots x.x
5 damage a bullet, four bullets = 20 damage, 40 damage with only two shots
One seems more fair to me than the other :P

Shock 09-04-2012 08:05 PM
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Posted by Shock (Post 191028)
Or there could be a base amount of 2 damage and then a wild multiplier ranging between 2 and 4. Then the distance/range idea could be built upon that.

So you'd cause 4-8 damage per bullet.

Then, depending on the price, the multiplier would be lowered to 2-3.(4-6 damage per bullet.)
I still stand behind this. I don't feel as if I explained it well enough.

Base damage could be 1-4 damage depending on the quality of the gun or how many bullets it fires.

Every bullet would represent its own multiplier. You could manipulate the multiplier to whatever lowest and highest damage you'd like. So an example would be a Pbp blast.
One blast=four bullets. Each bullet would represent the base damage times the multiplier.
Lets say pbp has a base of 2. So you'd have (2 x X) x 4. X would be you're random multiplier. X could also be manipulated. So if you have a multiplier of 1-4, you could have four bullets that could equal a possible 8-24 damage per blast. Or if you'd like it pulled back on power you could make the equation (2 x 1-3) x 4 OR (1 x 1-4) x 4.

I think it's the perfect equation for shotguns.

fsh 09-04-2012 08:09 PM
ok make it 3 dmg. lol

Shock 09-04-2012 08:12 PM
Just assign the equation (base damage x multiplier range) to every bullet so that if one doesn't hit, it doesn't take too much dmg. Also, you could in theory this way, assign different equations to different bullets to give that balanced effect.

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Posted by fsh (Post 193197)
ok make it 3 dmg. lol
That's only 12 damage.
-_-

fsh 09-05-2012 02:13 AM
I honestly think if your gonna pay 125k it better be worth it.. and I'm using m3

lord mafia Era 09-05-2012 05:20 AM
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Posted by fsh (Post 193371)
I honestly think if your gonna pay 125k it better be worth it.. and I'm using m3
noob xD use gun Pistol if are too cheap.

bobtheawsomekid 09-05-2012 07:36 AM
Noooooo, Pking at lethal would be very slow.

T-10a 09-06-2012 12:12 PM
Who cares, get a life and pk elsewhere. Like at teh beach. Noob open season!

SnakeRekon 09-06-2012 02:56 PM
Hi I'm new here, I like throwing nukes and blowing up bunnies

callimuc 09-06-2012 04:31 PM
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Posted by Shock (Post 193191)
I still stand behind this. I don't feel as if I explained it well enough.

Base damage could be 1-4 damage depending on the quality of the gun or how many bullets it fires.

Every bullet would represent its own multiplier. You could manipulate the multiplier to whatever lowest and highest damage you'd like. So an example would be a Pbp blast.
One blast=four bullets. Each bullet would represent the base damage times the multiplier.
Lets say pbp has a base of 2. So you'd have (2 x X) x 4. X would be you're random multiplier. X could also be manipulated. So if you have a multiplier of 1-4, you could have four bullets that could equal a possible 8-24 damage per blast. Or if you'd like it pulled back on power you could make the equation (2 x 1-3) x 4 OR (1 x 1-4) x 4.

I think it's the perfect equation for shotguns.
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reduces the damage by 0.5 every tile. ez to change and should be the basic way how to do it. pretty much busy irl and didnt check it all but i think it should work

Shock 09-06-2012 07:37 PM
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Posted by callimuc (Post 193972)
PHP Code:
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  temp.distance = (dstcheck[0]^2 - dstcheck[1]^2)*0.25;
  temp.dmg = ....; //some iera commands to get the damage and shiz
  temp.newdmg = max(1, (dmg-distance));
  //some function to remove the health
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reduces the damage by 0.5 every tile. ez to change and should be the basic way how to do it. pretty much busy irl and didnt check it all but i think it should work
Looks cool. Wish I could read that. Hahaha.

Johnaudi 09-06-2012 07:47 PM
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Posted by callimuc (Post 193972)
PHP Code:
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  temp.distance = (dstcheck[0]^2 - dstcheck[1]^2)*0.25;
  temp.dmg = ....; //some iera commands to get the damage and shiz
  temp.newdmg = max(1, (dmg-distance));
  //some function to remove the health
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reduces the damage by 0.5 every tile. ez to change and should be the basic way how to do it. pretty much busy irl and didnt check it all but i think it should work
So you'd making temp.dmg = the distance check minus it's on going tile? That's pretty cool. The closer the better, the further the less damage.

SnakeRekon 09-06-2012 11:02 PM
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Posted by callimuc (Post 193972)
PHP Code:
function onActionProjectile2(x, y) {
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  temp.distance = (dstcheck[0]^2 - dstcheck[1]^2)*0.25;
  temp.dmg = ....; //some iera commands to get the damage and shiz
  temp.newdmg = max(1, (dmg-distance));
  //some function to remove the health
} 
reduces the damage by 0.5 every tile. ez to change and should be the basic way how to do it. pretty much busy irl and didnt check it all but i think it should work
Well, I don't think this'll reduce the close range ownage thing but you should try it and see :)


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