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lord mafia Era 09-03-2012 05:55 AM
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Posted by iCool (Post 192063)
Lord ****** Era.
Grrr xP

SnakeRekon 09-03-2012 07:47 AM
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Posted by Higbey (Post 191513)
Hats off to you for ruining the one way players that cannot participate in events due to their device could gain ec.

5 achieves for one ec? Ridiculous
If you think about the number of achievements that will be released, then think of the number of EC you're getting for those achievements, it balances out. Achievements are NOT a replacement for Events, let me make that crystal clear. I know you guys want more ways to get Event Coins, however there are plenty of Facebook Events that get held and giveaways that you don't need 30+ EC from achievements alone.
Trust me, it's all about the balance.
It just means that rather than 20 EC for 60 achievements, you get 12.
Don't forget also when the achievement shop / idea for the achievement points is created there are also more items to be gained there.

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Posted by lord greg (Post 191705)
snake I thought you liked us normal players.... I couldn't be more wrong...
See above, I don't mind players getting EC alternate ways.
However, quite a lot of you tried to abuse account transfers along with achievements to gain more free EC, you can't complain when you try pull stuff like that.

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Posted by Billy (Post 192051)
Three was already a lot,screw you Paul Frank,now I'll never get another EC,it's not the fact that I'm bad at events,I crash as soon as I join one,or If I make it into a race I'm slomo and all the iPad 2 users zoom pass.
Do you perhaps want more chance events on the event bot?

Yogy* 09-03-2012 07:55 AM
Its prety unfair to make it 3 then change to 5 it annyed players. But on the other hand its fair because achivements much easier than events so 5 is normal. Im sorry to those who arent good in events and i know u are sad coz of this change but again 5 achivements for 1 ec is normal

SnakeRekon 09-03-2012 08:00 AM
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Posted by Yogy* (Post 192124)
Its prety unfair to make it 3 then change to 5 it annyed players. But on the other hand its fair because achivements much easier than events so 5 is normal. Im sorry to those who arent good in events and i know u are sad coz of this change but again 5 achivements for 1 ec is normal
I don't really agree with changing it after the fact, should probably have been a "limit breaker" as such, where it takes into account how many achievements you have, then decides whether you should change to 5 achievements to balance it out to all players.

Angel 09-03-2012 11:05 AM
You should add and spawn more events bot message every minute or so.

LavaClaw 09-03-2012 12:30 PM
Changing it from 3 to 5 is a tad unfair, I see the point there. I agree with Snake saying that it should have been 5 from the start. I dunno why there was all this initial hate at Snake though. It's about keeping balance, if all the decisions were left up to the players, you would all be running around with lightsabers and guns that hit 50 damage.

lord greg 09-03-2012 01:24 PM
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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 192119)
If you think about the number of achievements that will be released, then think of the number of EC you're getting for those achievements, it balances out. Achievements are NOT a replacement for Events, let me make that crystal clear. I know you guys want more ways to get Event Coins, however there are plenty of Facebook Events that get held and giveaways that you don't need 30+ EC from achievements alone.
Trust me, it's all about the balance.
It just means that rather than 20 EC for 60 achievements, you get 12.
Don't forget also when the achievement shop / idea for the achievement points is created there are also more items to be gained there.



See above, I don't mind players getting EC alternate ways.
However, quite a lot of you tried to abuse account transfers along with achievements to gain more free EC, you can't complain when you try pull stuff like that.



Do you perhaps want more chance events on the event bot?
ok yes add more chance for ec lol, also couldn't you just stop letting people abuse acount transfers and such? If not then yeah you may have a point

SnakeRekon 09-03-2012 02:52 PM
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Posted by lord greg (Post 192186)
ok yes add more chance for ec lol, also couldn't you just stop letting people abuse acount transfers and such? If not then yeah you may have a point
Yeah you can no longer transfer event coins between accounts

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Posted by LavaClaw (Post 192180)
Changing it from 3 to 5 is a tad unfair, I see the point there. I agree with Snake saying that it should have been 5 from the start. I dunno why there was all this initial hate at Snake though. It's about keeping balance, if all the decisions were left up to the players, you would all be running around with lightsabers and guns that hit 50 damage.
Well, as a player they don't really think of balance.. So I can see why the hatred XD there would of been less complaints if achievements were originally 5, they tasted the fruit and when it turned sour they disliked it.

MementoJoker 09-03-2012 02:52 PM
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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 192216)
Yeah you can no longer transfer event coins between accounts



Well, as a player they don't really think of balance.. So I can see why the hatred XD there would of been less complaints if achievements were originally 5, they tasted the fruit and when it turned sour they disliked it.
Snake, how about 4 points?

SnakeRekon 09-03-2012 02:58 PM
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Posted by Dimentio (Post 192217)
Snake, how about 4 points?
No idea, I'm not actually the one who changes it, not had chance to speak with Snk either lol

fsh 09-03-2012 03:00 PM
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Posted by lord mafia Era (Post 192029)
Maybey<--- you were dancing Tango for Grammar , and you shouldn't call people stupid bad Grammar or other.... So STFU LOL
Firstly, I was saying the IDEA was stupid.
I was not calling anyone stupid or putting them down.

Secondly, you have a few mistakes of your own kid.

Thirdly what the hell does Tango have to do with any of this?

GotenGraal 09-03-2012 03:37 PM
This is bull**** for the people who already did most of the achievements and got the easy ec now the rest have to do more. And if we go back some people already did achievements with this new system so now it's completely messed up. You pulled an iClassic lol.

Ventus277 09-03-2012 03:45 PM
4 points would be more reasonable.

MementoJoker 09-03-2012 03:48 PM
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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 192219)
No idea, I'm not actually the one who changes it, not had chance to speak with Snk either lol
No, what's your opinion on making them 4 points? :)

Miner* 09-03-2012 03:53 PM
How about 1 achievemnt =1ec?

SnakeRekon 09-03-2012 04:25 PM
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Posted by Miner* (Post 192250)
How about 1 achievemnt =1ec?
Get out. Now.

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Posted by Dimentio (Post 192249)
No, what's your opinion on making them 4 points? :)
Already been changed to 5, it'd be annoying to people to change it back down, they'd demand refunds of EC

Higbey 09-03-2012 04:28 PM
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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 192256)
Get out. Now.



Already been changed to 5, it'd be annoying to people to change it back down, they'd demand refunds of EC
well players already had the originall rates, so you already owe people refunds,

fsh 09-03-2012 05:32 PM
don't award ec at all

*sergei 09-03-2012 06:01 PM
Yes make it 4 so it's easier to get and better for all players ,but there will be a problem all the people got their ecs with 5.Now what will happen if they turn into 4 points instead of 5. Should everyone get the ecs he deserve if it was 4 from the beginning?

V. 09-03-2012 07:24 PM
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Posted by Higbey (Post 192258)
well players already had the originall rates, so you already owe people refunds,
Good point.

SnakeRekon 09-03-2012 07:26 PM
Snk has informed me nothing changed and that you're all just 'special' :)
It's for the actual number of achievements, not points :)

*sergei 09-03-2012 07:46 PM
Define that your last sentence snakeRekon

eric 09-03-2012 07:49 PM
Snake rekon owns you all maybe you could win events to get Event coins????????? Not do achievements bwahaha and you guys call me the noob!

Higbey 09-03-2012 07:51 PM
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Posted by eric (Post 192401)
Snake rekon owns you all maybe you could win events to get Event coins????????? Not do achievements bwahaha and you guys call me the noob!
ive got to stop coming on the iera forum section, iclassic may not have as much content, but at least they dont screw up as much and as epically as iera, and at least iclassic has less people like these in our server.

eric 09-03-2012 07:54 PM
Whats your avatar even of?

Higbey 09-03-2012 07:56 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...52328222_n.jpg

eric 09-03-2012 07:57 PM
I seriously do not see the resembelance

V. 09-03-2012 08:08 PM
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Posted by eric (Post 192411)
Whats your avatar even of?
I wanna ask you the same thing.


Get back on topic. The ec number should never have changed.

Paul Frank. 09-04-2012 04:48 AM
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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 191490)
I told him to make it per 5 achievements before he even released it lol
In your faces guys now stop complaining. Complain about Snake but not my fault.

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Posted by SnakeRekon (Post 192119)
If you think about the number of achievements that will be released, then think of the number of EC you're getting for those achievements, it balances out. Achievements are NOT a replacement for Events, let me make that crystal clear. I know you guys want more ways to get Event Coins, however there are plenty of Facebook Events that get held and giveaways that you don't need 30+ EC from achievements alone.
Trust me, it's all about the balance.
It just means that rather than 20 EC for 60 achievements, you get 12.
Don't forget also when the achievement shop / idea for the achievement points is created there are also more items to be gained there.



See above, I don't mind players getting EC alternate ways.
However, quite a lot of you tried to abuse account transfers along with achievements to gain more free EC, you can't complain when you try pull stuff like that.



Do you perhaps want more chance events on the event bot?
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Posted by eric (Post 192052)
I may be bad at events but just to let yall know that snake rekon is balancing it out.
You guys are people who cant win events and just want free Event coins because you want to brag to your friends you got a hunter knife but all you did was get achievements.
Your lucky admins even made achievements.

And thanks snake rekon for making graal a better place.

Kyle Kol 09-04-2012 04:57 AM
I think that Paul Frank and Snake Rekon are right, if we had the 1 event coin to 3 achievements ratio everyone would get event coins way too easily, it would be completely unfair to the people who earned them by actually trying hard to win them in an event, it's great that Snake and Paul did this and I want to thank them for not having over-powered people who barely worked towards getting a stun gun or katana at all running around era!

fsh 09-04-2012 05:18 AM
Omg guys, how bout.... We award ec when someone wins an event!! ^-^

Omg +rep me im so amazing
*thunderous aplause*

Miner* 09-04-2012 08:42 AM
Who vote for 1 achievement =1ec ?
If you vote snk might make it to 1
Lol

fsh 09-04-2012 08:47 AM
hahahahaha no.

Pazx 09-04-2012 08:53 AM
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Posted by fsh (Post 193042)
hahahahaha no.

Miner* 09-04-2012 09:01 AM
Why no ?:(

*sergei 09-04-2012 01:55 PM
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Posted by iFake Canavi (Post 191934)
now he won't us to get ec from achievement because in his head he cant understand hes not alone in era that is wanting EC's item(s) , why he even care he have all EC's items he seriously need attention i guess. that kid should get blocked from events to let other Player win.just saying but i suck at Event its unfair for me seriously. i only has 15 ec within 4k hrs , you know why?
Because its alway same person winning event. you should set a Limited event played per player because alot players get ec easly because they alway on events.also i hate the fact its alway TTS . people tell : U dont want TTS because you suck at it nub. ok i suck so what? i'm not good on everything. some player cant understand player like me Deserve EC's item too, just saying but Achievements are not all easy. some are long but now that we need 5 achievements for 1 EC's it's unfair for players in same situation as me.
True, the people who always win in the events are 80% from idiotism!!Same in auctions,they always win. That's unfair to all players in graal.

MementoJoker 09-04-2012 02:13 PM
It's Higbey the Demon...

Sungwonc01 09-05-2012 11:16 PM
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Posted by Miner* (Post 193046)
Why no ?:(
At first I thought you were trolling. Not not so much.

slasher 09-06-2012 03:03 AM
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Posted by fsh (Post 192966)
Omg guys, how bout.... We award ec when someone wins an event!! ^-^

Omg +rep me im so amazing
*thunderous aplause*
For once I agree with you *_*

failure 09-06-2012 03:26 AM
Omg. It needs to be like freakin' 100 achievements for one event coin. Seriously, does the name EVENT COIN mean anything anymore? Way too many free to easy access event coins are given out. This means that when snk just sends those messages to upload screenshots, people shouldn't get ecs. And for reporting glitches, give gralats not ecs. The ecs need to be made more exclusive for EVENT winners.

slasher 09-06-2012 06:13 AM
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Posted by failure (Post 193826)
Omg. It needs to be like freakin' 100 achievements for one event coin. Seriously, does the name EVENT COIN mean anything anymore? Way too many free to easy access event coins are given out. This means that when snk just sends those messages to upload screenshots, people shouldn't get ecs. And for reporting glitches, give gralats not ecs. The ecs need to be made more exclusive for EVENT winners.
I'm beginning to think event coins have lost theres meaning they should now be called Reward Coins

lord mafia Era 09-06-2012 06:15 AM
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Posted by fsh (Post 192221)
Firstly, I was saying the IDEA was stupid.
I was not calling anyone stupid or putting them down.

Secondly, you have a few mistakes of your own kid.

Thirdly what the hell does Tango have to do with any of this?
123 STFU HAHHAHA xD

Diceimosh 09-06-2012 01:39 PM
i was close to getting a stun gun until paul frank :( now i have to do 30 more achievements now thanks paul

Pazx 09-06-2012 02:32 PM
aw diddums

Bas! 09-06-2012 09:31 PM
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Posted by failure (Post 193826)
Omg. It needs to be like freakin' 100 achievements for one event coin. Seriously, does the name EVENT COIN mean anything anymore? Way too many free to easy access event coins are given out. This means that when snk just sends those messages to upload screenshots, people shouldn't get ecs. And for reporting glitches, give gralats not ecs. The ecs need to be made more exclusive for EVENT winners.
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Posted by iFake Canavi (Post 191934)
now he won't us to get ec from achievement because in his head he cant understand hes not alone in era that is wanting EC's item(s) , why he even care he have all EC's items he seriously need attention i guess. that kid should get blocked from events to let other Player win.just saying but i suck at Event its unfair for me seriously. i only has 15 ec within 4k hrs , you know why?
Because its alway same person winning event. you should set a Limited event played per player because alot players get ec easly because they alway on events.also i hate the fact its alway TTS . people tell : U dont want TTS because you suck at it nub. ok i suck so what? i'm not good on everything. some player cant understand player like me Deserve EC's item too, just saying but Achievements are not all easy. some are long but now that we need 5 achievements for 1 EC's it's unfair for players in same situation as me.

MementoJoker 09-06-2012 09:40 PM
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Posted by failure (Post 193826)
Omg. It needs to be like freakin' 100 achievements for one event coin. Seriously, does the name EVENT COIN mean anything anymore? Way too many free to easy access event coins are given out. This means that when snk just sends those messages to upload screenshots, people shouldn't get ecs. And for reporting glitches, give gralats not ecs. The ecs need to be made more exclusive for EVENT winners.
By your logic, Event Coins should be Event-exclusive, however, if snk knew Achievements were to be implemented, he would rename the currency.
People with old idevices, such as me have under 10% of winning an Event, this is just another way to help people like me, who want at least a Kiwi.

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Posted by lord mafia Era (Post 193872)
123 STFU HAHHAHA xD
Ban request: Lord Mafia Era.

slasher 09-07-2012 01:30 AM
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Posted by Diceimosh (Post 193952)
i was close to getting a stun gun until paul frank :( now i have to do 30 more achievements now thanks paul
Just 5 ec Ez man just win events it's faster

eric 09-07-2012 01:34 AM
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Posted by failure (Post 193826)
100 achievements for one event coin.
True dat, make a little achievement shop (NO Event coinS!!!)

poorface 09-07-2012 01:51 AM
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Posted by Diceimosh (Post 193952)
i was close to getting a stun gun until paul frank :( now i have to do 30 more achievements now thanks paul
So how many of those 19 event coins were from events, and how many were from achievements?

SUMM3R* 09-07-2012 10:54 AM
Thanks to Paul Frank I need to get 10 event coins instead of 5 :/


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