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fp4 12-27-2013 03:23 AM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 439136)
Can the furniture inventory cap be removed? Frankly I've always thought that was stupid because the furniture inventory doesn't seem to have any issues handling a high furniture load yet the cap for buying furniture is extremely small.

It's more so to protect players from buying too much inventory and potentially losing it, however it can definitely handle more than the cap of 30. So I doubled the limit to 60.

metal 12-27-2013 05:25 AM

Key blocks sometimes take wrong answers as correct. :(

4-Lom 12-27-2013 07:27 AM

they also sometimes freeze up and take no answer...

twilit 12-27-2013 07:12 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 439135)
I mean, I have seen people with a lot of furniture. If anyone else has a lot you can PM me as well so I can compare and see if there is actually a cap going on here and not something more major.

I think it's just an unprotected cap because when I moved furniture to a different room and added some back to the "full room," it worked fine until it reached the cap again.

Tricxta 12-28-2013 11:18 PM

Not sure if it was intended but you can't equip two loot items. "Cannot equip the same item to both slots". Perhaps you could compare item names not weapon names? Not sure why this was even put in place.

4-Lom 12-29-2013 03:34 AM

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Posted by Tricxta (Post 439674)
Not sure if it was intended but you can't equip two loot items. "Cannot equip the same item to both slots". Perhaps you could compare item names not weapon names? Not sure why this was even put in place.

Comes from a fix that Dusty did on mounts a month or more ago, I believe...
There was issue with equipping two different mounts and switching between them...

Dusty 12-29-2013 05:07 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 439714)
Comes from a fix that Dusty did on mounts a month or more ago, I believe...
There was issue with equipping two different mounts and switching between them...

I did it just to alleviate any potential problems(it was added alongside the generated icons for bombs/horses). Loot was originally coded to handle two equipped Loot, but after I made that change I just made it so Loot followed the same rules.

MattKan 12-30-2013 09:34 PM

Not a bug but didn't think it was necessary to make a new thread:

Can a button be added to swap the two equipped items? (don't ask lol)

Thallen 12-31-2013 01:00 AM

I've reported it 100 times, but there is still a glitch that exists that allows you to destabilize your spar rating deviation and reset it to 350, essentially allowing people to completely ruin the spar leaderboards.

When you log on to the same account from 2 devices at the same time, it will reset your rating deviation, but not your rating. Basically, you can win a spar, reset it, win a spar, reset it, repeat, and this way get an outrageous amount of points and saturate the entire rating pool. People have been abusing it forever and sparring sucks enough as it is right now, so this could use fixing.

I assume the glitch has to do with the fact that you have 2 different ratings (one per device type, PC and iDevice), if that helps you in fixing it. Maybe just timestamp when someone has last had 350, and if they have it again within 10-20 days then it's being abused.

MattKan 12-31-2013 05:20 PM

http://puu.sh/64Lne.png

On Facebook sometimes the trees don't load. It's weird, it's just the trees.

Thallen 01-01-2014 12:15 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 440178)
I've reported it 100 times, but there is still a glitch that exists that allows you to destabilize your spar rating deviation and reset it to 350, essentially allowing people to completely ruin the spar leaderboards.

When you log on to the same account from 2 devices at the same time, it will reset your rating deviation, but not your rating. Basically, you can win a spar, reset it, win a spar, reset it, repeat, and this way get an outrageous amount of points and saturate the entire rating pool. People have been abusing it forever and sparring sucks enough as it is right now, so this could use fixing.

I assume the glitch has to do with the fact that you have 2 different ratings (one per device type, PC and iDevice), if that helps you in fixing it. Maybe just timestamp when someone has last had 350, and if they have it again within 10-20 days then it's being abused.

A screenshot of what I'm referring to, since it was easy to predict that certain scrubs would abuse it for attention (XDDD):
http://puu.sh/64UTr.jpg

http://puu.sh/654XF.jpg

Second player in the second screenshot is not in the first screenshot because he used the glitch to reset his rating deviation to 350, then boosted repeatedly. You only appear on leaderboards when your rating deviation falls below 80.

I have no interest in sparring while the server's lag is in the condition that it's in lately, but if anyone cares enough to try and force it to be fixed then I'd probably just suggest abusing the glitch over and over until the whole leaderboard and pool of rating is effectively ruined, because that's what's happening anyway. GL!

Aaron 01-01-2014 01:07 AM

Lol, don't spar much anymore, but from what I see, it's almost as bad as Delteria's spar system. And that's pretty bad.

But really, I honestly wonder if this issue will get any attention since Rufus is gone. Unless there's other staff members who care about spar and it's issues. Hats off to Thallen though, presenting the issue and explaining it without a single exclamation point.

http://i.imgur.com/wnChBl9.jpg

Dusty 01-01-2014 01:17 AM

The issue is sadly I don't like to mess around in territory I don't fully understand. Not specifically sparring, but what the system does for spar deviation and such, why it would be resetting and all. It leaves a very large margin for me to **** up, and I tend to not like to take those odds.

Thallen 01-01-2014 03:55 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 440555)
The issue is sadly I don't like to mess around in territory I don't fully understand. Not specifically sparring, but what the system does for spar deviation and such, why it would be resetting and all. It leaves a very large margin for me to **** up, and I tend to not like to take those odds.

I can't tell you what it is doing exactly, but I can tell you that the glitch is performed by logging onto the same account with two separate devices at the same time.

The spar points system seems to be almost a direct relationship with Graal's built-in spar rating system. The person who has the highest rating on the server will also have the higher points on the server (I believe). If you know how Graal rating itself works, the second number (in 1500/350) is the rating deviation. The higher it is, the less frequently it is that you spar, thus the more points you get from a spar. If you beat someone with 2100 rating when you have 1500/350, you'll skyrocket to 2250/280 (roughly, depending on many factors). As you spar more, your rating deviation continues to go down, to a minimum of 75, and you gain less rating per win.

Basically, having a rating deviation that constantly resets to 350 is a destabilization of your rating. You get an insane amount for winning, because the game assumes that it is your first spar so it needs to immediately seed you at an appropriate rating. When you spar a lot, it falls to a minimum of 75 in assumption that it has corrected your rating and it's an accurate reflection of what you should have over a long period of sparring.

Anyway, the glitch constantly resets your rating deviation to 350, but does not reset your actual rating (the first number). So, you win once, get 2300/280 for the win (just an example), then you use the glitch and you're at 2300/350. Then you just repeat, and repeat, and repeat, and get an insane rating, because you're a cheating douchebag who is bad at spar.

The highest achievable spar rating on iClassic, to my knowledge, is 2999. However, points continue to go up beyond that. I dunno why it resets your rating to */350 when you log on two devices using the same account, but if I had to guess I'd say it has to do with the fact that iClassic assigns you 2 different ratings: one for mobile devices and one for PC.

If it can't be fixed, I think it'd at least be worth it to ban and/or reset players who constantly abuse it.

4-Lom 01-01-2014 04:15 AM

The fireworks don't "Duplicate" with the furniture hold-button-to-duplicate feature :)


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