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Meph 10-09-2012 10:16 PM

Noted

eric 10-09-2012 10:18 PM

Mkk

Ghettoicedtea 10-11-2012 02:41 PM

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Posted by poorface (Post 210288)
Of course not lol. When was the last time they actually buffed something in need of it?

M3 bud

iDigzy 10-11-2012 08:34 PM

I don't see why people complain about this lol the way ec is hoarded by most only about 50 players will or ever will have a chance to get it make it over powered and everyone would just get killed while basing or etc

iSilver 10-11-2012 09:00 PM

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Posted by eric (Post 210073)
Ikr make it 10 dmg and reflecting melees and twice the speed of hunter
I DONT EVEN HAVE ONE

And make it so when you spun it u can also walk

thatd be an unfair advantage to us and a gain to yogy and all the ec cheating twats

RedBoy786* 10-11-2012 09:00 PM

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Posted by iDigzy (Post 211952)
I don't see why people complain about this lol the way ec is hoarded by most only about 50 players will or ever will have a chance to get it make it over powered and everyone would just get killed while basing or etc

As much as how I hate ec hoarding, it requires skill whilst OP free Melees (crab daggers) and buying graalat packs don't. Think about it, when you have 100 ecs, you are looking for the most rare and epic melee on the market= Lightsaber. What is the literal point of purchasing the 'rarest' item on Era when it is going to suck as low to a standard to something free? Also, what was the need to nerf it in the first place. Anyone who ever got killed by it always thought that 'Damn that Weopen is Overpowered' and then thought 'Oh well, it is a 100 EVENT COIN melee so I deserve to die'.

Same goes with Bamboo. It should have exactly the same stats as saber APART from the damage which could stay the same. Apart from that, Bamboo and Saber need to be buffed.

Umbrella should also be on the list after buffing the Saber and Bamboo since it also have exactly the same stats as saber apart from the damage. Oh, and on the description of the unbrella, it says 'The indestructible...' when in reality, that is also a 'scam' description just like the bamboo. It most certainly IS NOT indestructible since the recent nerf made it so that when you are hurt, you can't take out the unbrella for like 3 secounds which ALWAYS makes you die.
I don't have words for how, as well as the society of era scams, the admins also scam with there nerf of weapons, invalid description of items and making innocent children buy items which is later nerfed. It's just... its sad.

iDigzy 10-11-2012 11:21 PM

I don't see why they cant just make an item good so they wont need to nerf it if its cheap and easy to get make it bot so good harder to get make it better instead they over power everything people buy packs or dig it finally get it and its nerfed to crap. Examples:
Pirate hammer
Excal
Pbp
Saber
Bone sword
If they had just made them not so over powered it would be good

romario786 10-12-2012 12:16 AM

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Posted by iDigzy (Post 212014)
I don't see why they cant just make an item good so they wont need to nerf it if its cheap and easy to get make it bot so good harder to get make it better instead they over power everything people buy packs or dig it finally get it and its nerfed to crap. Examples:
Pirate hammer
Excal
Pbp
Saber
Bone sword
UMBRELLA
If they had just made them not so over powered it would be good

i edited for you, something which you missed :)

fsh 10-12-2012 12:30 AM

Remember when M16 was out? :D Bill Smith and I dug to 10k and I bought it, it was so fast. Then by admins used their "logic" and raised the price and(you could hav guessed it) they nerfed it.

Meph 10-12-2012 12:50 AM

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Posted by fsh (Post 212038)
Remember when M16 was out? :D Bill Smith and I dug to 10k and I bought it, it was so fast. Then by admins used their "logic" and raised the price and(you could hav guessed it) they nerfed it.

I was just pking with it, it's terrible. Right now it's basically a Taurus with more clip, spread, and less damage.

The item description is "very fast" and that's highly misleading.

I assure you, this is on my "fix list"

Thanks for the input guys, keep it up

romario786 10-12-2012 01:06 AM

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Posted by Meph (Post 212051)
I was just pking with it, it's terrible. Right now it's basically a Taurus with more clip, spread, and less damage.

The item description is "very fast" and that's highly misleading.

I assure you, this is on my "fix list"

Thanks for the input guys, keep it up

what about the KSG?

Meph 10-12-2012 01:16 AM

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Posted by iDigzy (Post 212014)
I don't see why they cant just make an item good so they wont need to nerf it if its cheap and easy to get make it bot so good harder to get make it better instead they over power everything people buy packs or dig it finally get it and its nerfed to crap.

It's for this reason that my plan is to go through every melee and determine their worth based on how they were obtained, how much they were purchased for, and their special qualities(degree of knockback, etc.).

By 'worth', I'm talking about their damage, freeze, and timeout between attacks.

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Posted by romario786 (Post 212067)
what about the KSG?

Yeah- I'm also going to look into this.
The fact that it's got the shield will definitely carry weight on its stats, that's no reason for its offensive properties to be worse than a regular shotgun.

Oh, and I don't know if I've brought this up yet, but I plan on also nerfing Olympic Rings. I had the misfortune to go against one, and for what it cost when the shop was out, it certainly shouldn't be as powerful as it currently is. I don't believe any item should be that powerful.
To clear up any confusion, 'powerful' is in reference to the weapon as a whole, I don't plan on changing the damage. Probably just adding a reasonable freeze, and skewing its spread a tad bit.

romario786 10-12-2012 01:21 AM

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Posted by Meph (Post 212073)

Yeah- I'm also going to look into this.
The fact that it's got the shield will definitely carry weight on its stats, that's no reason for its offensive properties to be worse than a regular shotgun.

fair enough with the weight distribution but do something for the block rate and fire damage... because that's where the KSG lacks from..

Meph 10-12-2012 01:46 AM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 212074)
fair enough with the weight distribution but do something for the block rate and fire damage... because that's where the KSG lacks from..

Oops lol, when I said "carry weight", I didn't mean it literally.
I meant that the fact that it has a special ability(shield that blocks) will warrant an impediment on one of its other assets, but not as heavily impact the damage as it currently is; that's abit overkill. It's currently useless as a weapon, and its current block isn't a good enough percentage to excuse such poor damage.
Especially for the price of it.

Though, since you accidentally brought it up: it would be a decent idea to add the handicap of 'slowing you down' when the shield is enabled; and in that event I could see reason to increase the block percentage; to cope for the increased vulnerability.

Also, when it's a decent weapon, I'm down for the idea of having the shield require a routine repairing, based on how much damage it takes. More damage taken without repair = less block percentage.

Checks and balances :].

romario786 10-12-2012 01:49 AM

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Posted by Meph (Post 212095)
Oops lol, when I said "carry weight", I didn't mean it literally.
I meant that the fact that it has a special ability(shield that blocks) will warrant an impediment on one of its other assets, but not as heavily impact the damage as it currently is.

Though, it would be a decent idea to add the handicap of 'slowing you down' when the shield is enabled; and in that event I could see reason to increase the block percentage; to cope for the increased vulnerability.

Checks and balances :].

its already slow, snake added the slow freeze rate whilst carrying the shield it makes you go slow right now at this very point.. but if you can increase the block percentage and the damage percentage the KSG will be balanced.


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