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Hadzz 08-28-2013 09:25 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 404269)
That works until the kids go exploring the house and find a box with a gun in it.

1) Invest in a lock box.
2) Keep ammo separate from guns
3) Teach kids proper gun safety. A kid wouldn't get all curious about a gun they find if they already know how they work and how dangerous they are.

My little brother has tons of toy guns, he's seen guns in movies and games... but he's also very aware of what a real gun is and knows not to touch his fathers. He's also four.

Ignorant kids will do ignorant ****, and kids are only as ignorant as their parents let them be.

U dont just say to a kid dont use a gun and place a gun on your desk because if that kid get bullied or amgry or sumthing hes just gonna shoot someone

Ryan 08-28-2013 09:29 AM

Blame the person leaving the gun in a place where the kid could easily get it.

Dusty 08-28-2013 05:54 PM

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 404413)
U dont just say to a kid dont use a gun and place a gun on your desk because if that kid get bullied or amgry or sumthing hes just gonna shoot someone

This is why you take a multitude of precautions when it comes to gun safety. You'll see I listed 3 things.

Era News 08-28-2013 09:56 PM

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 404413)
U dont just say to a kid dont use a gun and place a gun on your desk because if that kid get bullied or amgry or sumthing hes just gonna shoot someone

Yeah don't want to get 'amgry' guys.

lord greg 08-28-2013 09:58 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 404543)
Yeah don't want to get 'amgry' guys.

Amgry people are scary :(

Shiz 08-28-2013 10:06 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 404269)
That works until the kids go exploring the house and find a box with a gun in it.

1) Invest in a lock box.
2) Keep ammo separate from guns
3) Teach kids proper gun safety. A kid wouldn't get all curious about a gun they find if they already know how they work and how dangerous they are.

My little brother has tons of toy guns, he's seen guns in movies and games... but he's also very aware of what a real gun is and knows not to touch his fathers. He's also four.

Ignorant kids will do ignorant ****, and kids are only as ignorant as their parents let them be.

Knowing this, I'm pretty concerned about the Grandmother that was babysitting the child. The atmosphere in the house was probably trashy and the grandma didn't like the child and treated him like crap?

Possibilities. Could've happened.


8 year olds. This means the gun was not on safety lock. Unless the kid knows how to operate a gun (who tf teaches an 8 year old, c'mon.) Either he was raised by Red necks and they showed him how to use a gun, or this kid experimented with the gun before and somehow managed to figure out how to use it.

Rexx 08-28-2013 10:12 PM

A monkey could figure out how to use a gun. It's pretty damn straight forward.

Squeeze trigger. Bang.

lord greg 08-28-2013 10:17 PM

Loading is more complicated and they would need to know about the safety switch.

Skill 08-29-2013 12:06 AM

I blame the parents, entirely. They should not let an 8 year old have access to M rated games, especially ones that have such realistic violence. The same goes for R rated movies.

At that age children have a very distorted sense of reality. They are still learning about the world and what life is like, and naturally tend to learn from their surroundings and the environment that they're in. When I was 8, I still believed in Santa Claus and all that, and so did most of the people my age. I had no idea how adult life worked or how the heck my parents managed to handle everything they did. The world seemed overwhelming to me, and I was clueless. It takes time for people to fully learn how the world works and what is acceptable, and for their mind to physically develop to handle so many things. If a child plays a game in which you can freely kill innocent civilians with guns for extended periods of time, it may take over their view on life. He probably hardly realized what he is doing is "just a game", and made comparisons to RL. His mind was not fully developed and therefore not yet capable of making rational thoughts based on reality. When a child is growing up they tend to reflect their surroundings. If they spend their time surrounded by nothing but mindless violence that they can't even fully understand, they will grow up and learn based on that. I'm not saying that every kid that plays a violent game is going to be a murderer, I'm just saying that playing such disturbing games extensively at a very young age can have a dramatic effect on their understanding of everyday life.Any grown adult can clearly realize that GTA is just a game, and know that such things should never happen in real life, an 8 year old child has no clue what the world works like or what is reasonable. People need to respect the age ratings of games, they're there for a reason.

The second mistake they made was leaving a gun in the open where it is accessible to a child. It should be in a locked case, and out of reach of a child. Not necessarily to stop something like this, but to stop them from accidentally harming themselves(there have been numerous deaths from children who play with weaponry they aren't aware of how to use). Even if it was originally unloaded, I'm sure he learned to some degree how to load it from the game he played, which his parents should not have let him play in the first place.

Parents need to pay more attention to what they're buying their children. Rather than blaming the gaming industry for putting out games with content inappropriate for children, they should blame the parents for ignoring age ratings and giving their children whatever they want. Most major gaming studios have their games Rated by the ESRB, which provides a very clear description as to what types of mature content are included in those games.

Aleksandr 08-29-2013 03:45 AM

Actually, video games do have influence on the emotional part of your brain, whereas changes in your mind are noticeable through a MRI scan, after playing for just one week. Most people who play 'shoot em' up games' are prone to suicidal thoughts, thoughts of homicide, and nothing positive, really. I play Call of Duty time to time... Yea it had a effect on me when I used to play maybe 5-6 hours a day.

optimuswhat 08-29-2013 03:48 AM

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Posted by Aleksandr (Post 404687)
Actually, video games do have influence on the emotional part of your brain, whereas changes in your mind are noticeable through a MRI scan, after playing for just one week. Most people who play 'shoot em' up games' are prone to suicidal thoughts, thoughts of homicide, and nothing positive, really. I play Call of Duty time to time... Yea it had a effect on me when I used to play maybe 5-6 hours a day.

How many people were tested?
The only thing I found from watching others play CoD is talking like an asshole, and getting extremely pissed.
Actually... Your statement DOES make sense.

BboyEatsbacon 08-29-2013 04:06 AM

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Posted by Era News (Post 404043)
What I meant to say is America has some of the crappiest gun laws known to mankind.

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Posted by http://blamejd.com/2012/07/25/on-stricter-gun-laws/
First, let’s go over what I have to do to buy a gun:
  • Must provide proof of residency in the county in which I am purchasing.
  • Must have a valid photo ID issued in the state I am purchasing and have residency.
  • Must submit to and pay for a background check upon every purchased firearm.
  • Must submit my fingerprints upon every purchase.
  • Must wait 10 days from point-of-sale, to actually picking up my firearm.
  • Restricted to only one firearm purchase per grace period.
  • Cannot purchase magazines with capacities greater than 10 rounds.
  • Cannot have detachable magazines on rifles (must use a “bullet button”).
  • Cannot purchase fully-automatic weapons without special permit (this is true of most states).

ya man horrible laws!111


Anyway, why does this child have access to MATURE content and loaded weapons that possibly weren't properly concealed? lmao

Rexx 08-29-2013 04:15 AM

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Posted by Aleksandr (Post 404687)
Actually, video games do have influence on the emotional part of your brain, whereas changes in your mind are noticeable through a MRI scan, after playing for just one week. Most people who play 'shoot em' up games' are prone to suicidal thoughts, thoughts of homicide, and nothing positive, really. I play Call of Duty time to time... Yea it had a effect on me when I used to play maybe 5-6 hours a day.

You have any sources to back this up?

If playing a video game is affecting your behavior and thought process then you need to stop playing games and go get help because that's not normal by any standards.

I've played shooters my entire adolescence and I've never had any abnormal thoughts of violent behavior. I'm actually kind of a pacifist, yet I still love violent games because I know its not reality.

Era News 08-29-2013 06:40 AM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 404701)
ya man horrible laws!111

Compared to most countries America has crappy laws. Why do you need an automatic weapon, unless to kill someone.

Johnaudi 08-29-2013 09:35 AM

Why the hell blame GTA? There is a 'Rating' for a reason, and I doubt GTA let's people under 13 to play it. So basically it's the fault of the parents.


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