Thing is, normal staff don't handle the business aspect so you have nothing to worry about.

I am laughing so hard at this, Stefan gets free workers and makes hundreds of dollars regardless why would he start paying them lmao? You people will buy content no matter who makes it.

He does have skilled employees and they work for free and still have a successful game :)

Well of course they'd be paid for assignments, thats how classic does Gralat payments anyway. The problem with finding skilled payable Developers on a game like graal, is that there are very few with the skillset. A developer is not just a graphics artist, or a leveler, its someone who is able to utilize all there talents to develop content on their own. This would be people like Dusty.

Also I might add that the difference between games like Clash of Clans or Minecraft and Graal is not having full time developers, but audience. Games like Minecraft or Clash of Clans can accommodate for almost any audience, young or old, nerdy or not. While a game like Graal has a much stricter audience.

Why does everyone insult the staff? I think they're doing fine honestly...

Reallly? normal staff don't delete items which were uploaded by other staff members that were purchased with our money? I've had uploaded images deleted without a refund before and I've had items deleted for half the cost.


Why pay staff to make your game better? Because it can bring in way more players which means way more $$$$.

your fault for not meeting the guidelines, your fault for buying gralats.

plus Graal can't handle the players it has now plus Stefan is already happy with how it works, he gets income off 3 servers that have a player base of 6,000+

oh nooooo what happen to this thread :'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(

more like 100,000+, 6,000 is just the average playercount, not the total playercount.
its probably way higher but i dont know, the classic fb page has 200,000 likes

Yeah not sure bud. There's era staff in here commenting on classic issues and Stefan's best friend Colin who he has over for thanksgiving and shares all his finacial information with i guess.

Stefan dislikes me and so does a majority of the staff team, I just have common sense.

Also just because they are an era staff doesn't mean they don't play Classic.

Let me sum up both of are arguments,

Mine: Stefan makes hundreds of $$$ while getting free workers.

You: Stefan makes a lot of money with free workers but he should start paying them so he earns less!!

This is the real world not your little fantasy world, money isn't a toy and Stefan recognizes that hence he chooses to make as much as he can, welcome to business my friend.

You are ignorant. Staff should all be on the same page regarding the uploading rules. Something should never be uploaded and then deleted 3 months later. I met every guideline but some staff think shoulder pads are a hat others don't. Long story short, after working with Rufus, he found that having shoulder pads on a head is not against the rules.

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Trust me a lot more people dislike you. I'm done arguing with you, it was never meant to be an argument but something i would do if I was Stefan and if I were staff. You think like a poor man and you'll always be poor. To make money you need to spend money and ultimatley if Stefan invested into his own game it would become bigger and he would become richer in the end. He obviously is comfortable where he's at, and that might hurt him later.

Colin Id like to visit your businesses. If you could leave the names of them so I can research them and learn from them id appreciate it. Arrogance spews from your ignorant mind. Also if you could submit a picture of your business degree that'd be nice too.

You should start writing another apology to me, just like last time you were wrong.

He spent money to initiate the server and he stills spend money to keep it up and pay a few of the devs, therefore that statement doesn't really work here plus the fact he is making money off of staff he doesn't pay so,

I don't have a degree but I have been taking technology and business courses for over 2 years now, I actively participate in the stock market and my account holds value at well over $15,000, I also partake in crypto-currencies like BitCoin/DogeCoin and have been working on my own for a while now, so although I don't have an official degree I would say I have pretty good knowledge on how business works.

(When I was a kid I also ran my own lemonade stand, which is more than you've ever done) I also do in real life merching similar to how you do it in Runescape and throughout my school year I make well over $200 buying products on sale and selling them to students(things like drinks,snacks).

Stefan is comfortable where he is at because it is already a good income, therefore he has no reason to try and push higher, also paying online employees can be risky.

Glad your parents invested for you. Goodluck on the snack selling. Keep working towards that degree my man and you might be able to throw some weight around.

Do you understand what that requires? Right now, iClassic probably has 2-3 active people who make levels and do scripting in total, and you're asking for them to find someone who is capable of some sort of management skill, scripting, and making levels, all in one person.

The problem with there being little to do on iClassic has absolutely nothing to do with there being too few ideas. Anyone can think of stuff that would help out the server, it isn't difficult. The hard part is finding the volunteers who are willing to do it.

That being said, suggestions like this are probably never taken seriously because you're demanding too much. It's saying, "I have an idea that requires a ton of work, and I can't tell you who is capable of doing it, but let's get it done," which in reality offers no real help towards making it happen.
I guarantee the iClassic staff have already thought of ideas like tag sparring, improving towers, etc. The problem is not coming up with the idea, it's that they don't have enough volunteers who are going to go out of their way to make the effort for these huge projects, either because they don't want to or they have other things ahead of them in the development schedule.

That's why when I suggest things in this subforum, I make sure they are relatively small changes that I can visualize from a scripting standpoint won't take a huge amount of time or effort.