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Ghettoicedtea 09-10-2014 08:23 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504482)
Rec and I could have just done nothing at all and occasionally released a couple of stores and event guns and that would be all that's required of us. The fact that we have done so much extra, such as actually making and animating the graphics ourselves- which isn't required either- and people still complain about everything is honestly pretty frustrating. We rarely get any thanks, and that's fine since we do it as a hobby but we're grateful when people do because it still takes effort.

You shouldn't be focusing on graphics, you were hired to balance guns, not make graphics for guns. Also I know how much time graphic making takes up and it seems like you are wasting so much energy on that instead of your job of balancing guns seeing how your argument is based on the we have done so much extra.

Another thing, doing something will lead into massive frustration and QQing at first but then after a week it never pops up again. Trust me, i know this since I make changes at least once a week to guns/melees

DarkKnight 09-10-2014 10:54 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea
you were hired to balance guns, not make graphics for guns

DING DING DING

Infernus Lapse 09-11-2014 12:03 AM

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 504584)
LOL, Don't you ****ing dare try to justify your absolute ****ness as both a person and an administrator by calling me out for stuff that I find absolutely ****ing hilarious.

Way to be the better man... >.>

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 504875)
You shouldn't be focusing on graphics, you were hired to balance guns, not make graphics for guns. Also I know how much time graphic making takes up and it seems like you are wasting so much energy on that instead of your job of balancing guns seeing how your argument is based on the we have done so much extra.

Another thing, doing something will lead into massive frustration and QQing at first but then after a week it never pops up again. Trust me, i know this since I make changes at least once a week to guns/melees

The point is that he gave era those features because he wanted to, because he went above his duty as an admin to give era players those gifts.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 09-11-2014 12:28 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 504875)
You shouldn't be focusing on graphics, you were hired to balance guns, not make graphics for guns. Also I know how much time graphic making takes up and it seems like you are wasting so much energy on that instead of your job of balancing guns seeing how your argument is based on the we have done so much extra.

Another thing, doing something will lead into massive frustration and QQing at first but then after a week it never pops up again. Trust me, i know this since I make changes at least once a week to guns/melees

What Infernus said is correct, as for balancing the game, if you checked era go/ went in game you would see that's what i've been doing for the past 5months

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504482)
Anyway I apologise for trying to make this game more balanced by making several changes to guns including nerfing some higher up guns and buffing some of the less expensive guns.

And like I said the graphics I make I do during spare time instead of just doing nothing since if you change a stat -you should know- you need to wait a week to see the effect it makes because if you just change everything at once it stuffs the game up

Ghettoicedtea 09-11-2014 12:39 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504914)
And like I said the graphics I make I do during spare time instead of just doing nothing since if you change a stat -you should know- you need to wait a week to see the effect it makes because if you just change everything at once it stuffs the game up

use your resources, use unreleased stuff that only you can get and test out the weapon changes you want to make on them too see if they are reasonable or not. Also USE THEM IN COMBAT otherwise its a complete waste of time. This has worked great for me. Just ignore all the pms and slaughter them all, they will fight back.

I dont want to touch era ever again, that game is cancerous, im also IP banned on Era Go so i cant go on there to see the progress of balancing. Although since theres so much guns, no point of even trying to balance them and make them unique any more.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 09-11-2014 12:42 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 504918)
use your resources, use unreleased stuff that only you can get and test out the weapon changes you want to make on them too see if they are reasonable or not. Also USE THEM IN COMBAT otherwise its a complete waste of time. This has worked great for me. Just ignore all the pms and slaughter them all, they will fight back.

It's not about just you using the gun it's a range of people. You shouldn't be balancing guns based off how one person uses it because on its own it may be fine but when you get a number of people using it in different circumstances, it becomes overpowered.

Craftz 09-11-2014 01:03 AM

Haven't really read any of this thread but it seems like bull **** if someone spends a ton of gralats on a really OP gun, then the gun gets nerfed to absolute **** and it isn't what you payed for anymore.

Ghettoicedtea 09-11-2014 01:34 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504919)
It's not about just you using the gun it's a range of people. You shouldn't be balancing guns based off how one person uses it because on its own it may be fine but when you get a number of people using it in different circumstances, it becomes overpowered.

Not if you ask for feedback, ask and you will receive feedback.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 09-11-2014 02:18 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 504933)
Not if you ask for feedback, ask and you will receive feedback.

Maybe on zone that works but the only feedback you will ever get is 'nerf makes my gun not op anymore refund' 1/10 players actually have sense on era

CluTch 09-11-2014 02:39 AM

No cursing please. I'd appreciate it if someone takes hold of the thread for me. Sam?

Cookie Xanadu 09-11-2014 04:14 AM

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Posted by Craftz1 (Post 504925)
Haven't really read any of this thread but it seems like bull **** if someone spends a ton of gralats on a really OP gun, then the gun gets nerfed to absolute **** and it isn't what you payed for anymore.

So you want a gun with immense stats that completely outclasses any and all guns to remain untouched because it was overlooked? Well okay then.

DarkKnight 09-11-2014 04:19 AM

Sam, you and Rec are both utter ****. There is nothing you can possibly say to justify the two of you deserving the position. My 13 year old brother who has only played like 100 hours of Era could grasp the concept of being Era's Guns Admin better than the two of you combined. Snk actually told me the truth about the stats and stuff, rofl

In fact, I woudn't be surprised if Rec and Sam released an overwall, overpowered, 200k+ flak cannon, knowing the two of them.

Sad part is I used to think Sam was cool , until he turned into a colossal ****ing asshole.

Craftz 09-11-2014 12:34 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 504990)
So you want a gun with immense stats that completely outclasses any and all guns to remain untouched because it was overlooked? Well okay then.

I never said I wanted a gun to remain OP. But if someone buys it for its OP stats they should atleast get a refund when it is seriously nerfed.

Titan*S 09-12-2014 12:30 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 504944)
Maybe on zone that works but the only feedback you will ever get is 'nerf makes my gun not op anymore refund' 1/10 players actually have sense on era

Lol true. Era is no where near like Zone. You can at least get good feedback on Zone but Era? Psh, forget about it. Honestly good for you Sam nerfing guns and stuff. Don't mind people giving negative feedback they will grow into it soon enough.

Ghettoicedtea 09-12-2014 02:09 PM

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Posted by Titan*S (Post 505108)
Lol true. Era is no where near like Zone. You can at least get good feedback on Zone but Era? Psh, forget about it. Honestly good for you Sam nerfing guns and stuff. Don't mind people giving negative feedback they will grow into it soon enough.

what lies is this? 99% of my feedback i get is ur gun OP, this OP, buff this, nerf tht, wow buff my gun back up u flamming fagit etc etc.

Every once in a blue moon i will get ya your gun is fair, or your guns clip needs to be nerfed, the ROF is way to high, damage way to high, etc.


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