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jwd 04-12-2015 09:11 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 553613)
Ahah showdown is literally like the only thing I played really on zone, it went very down hill imo when they changed from a base(earn lil guilds etc time) to winning few zcoins that has been circulated around the trade table with people having thousands now with not much to buy

This is where a combat-based economy would come in, with things to spend accrued coin to improve your edge. Like weapon augmentations, augmentations to self, wagers and betting, things to improve your appearance. There could be a team dedicated to releasing this sort of content on a monthly basis. Without that and with the intro of weapon augmentations/upgrades and bespoke weapons, the economy would have a number of new, player-created weapons in game that can be traded. With a limited amount of ammo and value of ammo priced according to strength, this would be a way to keep the coins circulating.

There's a huge problem when people have thousands of coins sitting around doing nothing. Coincidentally, in the real-world, a large number of people hoarding their cash under their mattress is not a good thing. It seems Zone is going through an economic crisis...

Vladamir Blackthorne 04-12-2015 11:47 PM

Stefan may have denied us the iZone we would have actually wanted...

But Stefan isn't here anymore. What does Unixmad say on the matter?

Ghettoicedtea 04-13-2015 12:15 AM

nothing and tashkin won't do anything cause yolo. He will also keep whipping out the hurhurhur GS2 don't pay me bills, if you wanna make change do it yourself. You dip **** leave then you signed up for the job so do it.

Tashkin 04-13-2015 12:44 AM

I wont do anything? I guess that's why I sent all of my staff to read these post. I have been gone for a while moving. We would like a poll started after we get a lot of ideas here. The winning poll we will start working on. I say the poll starts next Monday a week from tomorrow.

Ghetto grow up and stop having a hissy fit. You dont help with anything besides causing problems.

So keep the ideas rolling.

Sir 04-13-2015 12:59 AM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 553650)
I wont do anything? I guess that's why I sent all of my staff to read these post. I have been gone for a while moving. We would like a poll started after we get a lot of ideas here. The winning poll we will start working on. I say the poll starts next Monday a week from tomorrow.

Ghetto grow up and stop having a hissy fit. You dont help with anything besides causing problems.

So keep the ideas rolling.

Now that's a 'git-er-dun' attitude :)

Cookie Xanadu 04-13-2015 01:38 AM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 553650)
I wont do anything? I guess that's why I sent all of my staff to read these post. I have been gone for a while moving. We would like a poll started after we get a lot of ideas here. The winning poll we will start working on. I say the poll starts next Monday a week from tomorrow.

Ghetto grow up and stop having a hissy fit. You dont help with anything besides causing problems.

So keep the ideas rolling.

If you want ideas:

- Scrap all holiday and sport-themed content planned.

- Revert Iricia, Gwars and KotH to their old team vs team theme (KotH
having the ability to have up to IV teams against each other)

- Put more emphasis on teamwork and PK; less about basing and squads

- Import more content, weapons and scripts from Zone

- Rework Skyworld so that it's not as huge, barren and linear; give some variance in appearence, instead of 3x3x3 lots

- Use Zone's old tile set as a placeholder instead of the very bland current tile set

- Bring the light vs dark map (with classes and powers) as an event

- Implement the energy system

-Remove infinite ammo and fuel as these kill all thought about strategy and how to conserve ammo. It only promotes needless spam like iEra

-Revamp classes either by using Zone's class system, or just make them unique. Things like the defender being slower but having innate damage reduction, as well as something defense-esque, like mines or mortars. You can use your imagination on this and expand on it! Just don't get too artsy and make it beyond ******ed

- Remove combat and medic robots and instead port the healing weapon from Zone into iZone. This would also mean to remove those AoE healing things as that eats through strategy. Make healing a 1-square distance for touch and if you must, a 0.5 square radius for anyone near

- If you plan on implementing a questline, put time into the mechanics. Give it something Delteria and iClassic lack; cinematics. Things like panning, scrolling, markers, etc.

- Post a list of what's happening on a weekly basis. Let the public know what's going on, including bug fixes, upcoming content, etc.

I'll give you props for being acknowledging.

Tashkin 04-13-2015 04:03 AM

I would have posted sooner... but like I said I was moving and didn't even know this post was here. :) Keep the ideas flowing and comment on others ideas. More positive comments on ideas I will add to the poll.

Ghettoicedtea 04-13-2015 04:46 AM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 553650)
I wont do anything? I guess that's why I sent all of my staff to read these post. I have been gone for a while moving. We would like a poll started after we get a lot of ideas here. The winning poll we will start working on. I say the poll starts next Monday a week from tomorrow.

Ghetto grow up and stop having a hissy fit. You dont help with anything besides causing problems.

So keep the ideas rolling.

so what if you sent your staff to read this thread, won't matter for **** when theres been hundreds of these types of threads and nothing happens.

Tashkin 04-13-2015 05:03 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 553696)
so what if you sent your staff to read this thread, won't matter for **** when theres been hundreds of these types of threads and nothing happens.

Except all of those threads get derailed because all you do is complain instead of actually do what the thread is here for. So unless you actually have real input stay on topic.

Ghettoicedtea 04-13-2015 01:48 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 553705)
Except all of those threads get derailed because all you do is complain instead of actually do what the thread is here for. So unless you actually have real input stay on topic.

thats what these types of threads are for, complaining and getting player input on ideas to improve the game. Also even if someone derails the thread, its still ALL THERE. That includes the actual ideas, so you really have no leg to stand on if your saying that.

Heres an idea

remove unlimited ammo
fix the weapon bugs
fix the flamethrower (its still broken and its been that way since we added range to it. It won't set people on fire except on staff accounts it will, but it has the infinite range for burning people).

Hugop 04-13-2015 08:13 PM

The only ideas I have start with "fix".

"Fix the levels"
"Fix the grenades launcher"
"Fix ..."

Fixing is better than having more stuff added that increases the fix list.
I guess you are already aware of what it needs to be fixed means nobody needs to list it.

Ghettoicedtea 04-13-2015 09:32 PM

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Posted by Hugop (Post 553852)
The only ideas I have start with "fix".

"Fix the levels"
"Fix the grenades launcher"
"Fix ..."

Fixing is better than having more stuff added that increases the fix list.
I guess you are already aware of what it needs to be fixed means nobody needs to list it.

nade launcher isn't broken at all. Its some dumb glitch that can be done with any gun yet tashkin decided to ban it.

G Fatal 04-14-2015 11:47 AM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 553705)
Except all of those threads get derailed because all you do is complain instead of actually do what the thread is here for. So unless you actually have real input stay on topic.

Exactly why I posted here for you guys to get more ideas and trying keep on the idea topic :)

Idea:
Roughly make the map half size of what it is(keep like that for awhile-until eventually cover with no empty places)-this brings community back together rather than spread out here and there.

Make leveling system mean more? maybe certain level obtain weapon/power/access to another planet?

Squads - Allow the pvp but make so only like 4/5bases (some could be different-zone should be different) what id do:
base 1 - chorus style take over all bases to own(using pvp item to attack)
base 2 - the loved skybase make only 1 though(everyone enjoyed this as good for pk and outside styled
base 3 - Bring showdown back as base it allowed people with not many players to earn base time - I literally got most fatals hrs by owning showdown forever(3rd to 100hrs) So no teaming really isnt an issue imo just takes skill/strategy to win
base 4 - Like the newer bases keep one of these, keeps era/ol players who play zone also happy
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base 5 - maybe something totally different -you decide
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[Reason I say less bases is it brings more competition between squads =more attacks/defending = less 'bored of server' as they'd be active trying to earn bit of time]

Now also if going down quest route pop few iconic npc's about with clues of things to come(i hated this on classic-but does keep the players hoping as shown on classic numbers of times lmao-but dont take to long to make stuff for it)
maybe to add to that there could be squad dedicated to a quest system? idk

Now for stuff like Koth or capture the flag maybe have a ldrboard for these to say whos won most? (p.s if not making showdown a base then DO this!)

Tashkin 04-14-2015 03:36 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 554019)
Exactly why I posted here for you guys to get more ideas and trying keep on the idea topic :)

Idea:
Roughly make the map half size of what it is(keep like that for awhile-until eventually cover with no empty places)-this brings community back together rather than spread out here and there.

Make leveling system mean more? maybe certain level obtain weapon/power/access to another planet?

Squads - Allow the pvp but make so only like 4/5bases (some could be different-zone should be different) what id do:
base 1 - chorus style take over all bases to own(using pvp item to attack)
base 2 - the loved skybase make only 1 though(everyone enjoyed this as good for pk and outside styled
base 3 - Bring showdown back as base it allowed people with not many players to earn base time - I literally got most fatals hrs by owning showdown forever(3rd to 100hrs) So no teaming really isnt an issue imo just takes skill/strategy to win
base 4 - Like the newer bases keep one of these, keeps era/ol players who play zone also happy
---------------
base 5 - maybe something totally different -you decide
---------------
[Reason I say less bases is it brings more competition between squads =more attacks/defending = less 'bored of server' as they'd be active trying to earn bit of time]

Now also if going down quest route pop few iconic npc's about with clues of things to come(i hated this on classic-but does keep the players hoping as shown on classic numbers of times lmao-but dont take to long to make stuff for it)
maybe to add to that there could be squad dedicated to a quest system? idk

Now for stuff like Koth or capture the flag maybe have a ldrboard for these to say whos won most? (p.s if not making showdown a base then DO this!)

Now we are getting somewhere. Thanks for the post.

Dark Ice Cream 04-14-2015 03:53 PM

I was thinking of a realistic tutorial, rather than just being said, typed or explained. We should put them into levels with the guide/instructions that can be implied in playing Zone.

Again, GMAP is too big, and need to be worked out again. I should say, cut it into different sectors and make them as a whole new planet rather than just 1 planet.

Since it is the space, we should have more "space activities". Giving space a sole purpose. Examples can be like, space base with gravitational effects, space race (using spaceships ‘like in mission 9(?)‘).

Revamp some tiles in the tileset. The tileset also should be more ‘organized' than finding the right tile for it. Most outside tiles are away from each other which totally makes no sense.

A Squad vs Squad Basing System. I totally hate it when others just help them, when we want just that squad to be attacked.


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